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45. 35 years of watching most democrats sell out the working class
time and time again. 35 years of watching the modest gains the working class demanded and received from FDR stripped by both democrat and republican votes. 35 years of swallowing the same bullshit line- "we can improve on it later" and seeing later never materialize and in the process of compromising over and over again corporations just grow more powerful as a result of our endless concessions.

I hoped Obama would be different, he saw and spoke to thousands of those suffering horribly as a result of insurance and drug companies. I hoped he would represent those folks and all of us in the private meetings with pharma etc. I hoped he would be a voice for the majority in this country- the working class.

Didn't happen.

So now it's the same old same old. Settle for less, it's all we can get, it's better than nothing, single payer can't be done, etc.

After 35 years there is one thing I am sure of, those excuses and rationales get us nowhere, severely underestimate our opponents and are used as some kind of "faith in the party litmus test" to shut up those of us who know better.

When the political yes buts finally realize the democrats have lined their pockets with insurance money and nothing is going to change, maybe then things will begin to.
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  -The Health Care Bill Is Not Even Written Yet But Some DU'ers Are Defeatists Anyway KittyWampus  Aug-10-09 09:17 AM   #0 
  - The President needs to give us something to fight for.  kentuck   Aug-10-09 09:19 AM   #1 
  - You don't know what you want in a Health Care Bill? You have no demands?  KittyWampus   Aug-10-09 09:33 AM   #6 
  - Yes, I know what I want.  kentuck   Aug-10-09 09:37 AM   #9 
  - kentuck, you are so on target. I wish I could rec this respons but I'll be happy to  Skidmore   Aug-10-09 09:36 AM   #8 
  - We have been handicapped by our leaders...  kentuck   Aug-10-09 09:39 AM   #12 
  - Start  ProSense   Aug-10-09 10:01 AM   #18 
  - It's the runups to the Iraq invasion and the elections of 2006 and 2008 all over again  rocktivity   Aug-10-09 09:29 AM   #2 
  - I guess so is Durbin...what do you to support something that is not even written as you say  flyarm   Aug-10-09 09:30 AM   #3 
  - Well, one would think an INFORMED Dem posting on DU would have positions to advocate for inclusion  KittyWampus   Aug-10-09 09:35 AM   #7 
     - hey you are the one who claimed it wasn't written..and please do not assume i have not been out  flyarm   Aug-10-09 09:46 AM   #13 
  - So let's make some happy-talk about how wonderful the mythical plan will be  wininboy   Aug-10-09 09:32 AM   #4 
  - thanks for illustrating my point so well.  KittyWampus   Aug-10-09 09:33 AM   #5 
  - So let's hear the happy-talk  wininboy   Aug-10-09 09:39 AM   #11 
     - Happy Talk? Another great example of someone whose only goal is apparently to complain  KittyWampus   Aug-10-09 10:43 AM   #30 
  - What's been torn out? Do tell. nt  babylonsister   Aug-10-09 09:54 AM   #17 
     - Single payer, Medicare for all, negotiating prices, competing with private insurers  wininboy   Aug-10-09 10:08 AM   #19 
        - Got a link to what's been passed?  babylonsister   Aug-10-09 10:11 AM   #20 
           - Is that all you have?  wininboy   Aug-10-09 10:26 AM   #23 
              - And you got nothing except your misinformed opinion.  babylonsister   Aug-10-09 10:32 AM   #24 
                 - You've got nothing but hate-filled personal attacks  wininboy   Aug-10-09 10:36 AM   #26 
                    - Whaaa! Sounding more like a rethug with every post you make.  babylonsister   Aug-10-09 10:38 AM   #27 
                       - So calling me a liar is how you show your love?  wininboy   Aug-10-09 10:53 AM   #33 
                          - I guess BS's Search for Truth has come to an end  wininboy   Aug-10-09 11:27 AM   #36 
                             - And how does that pizza taste? I knew it!  babylonsister   Aug-11-09 07:46 AM   #48 
  - Their agenda is to demoralize us to the point that we don't care  DevonRex   Aug-10-09 09:39 AM   #10 
  - Most people, including DUers, aren't watching cable news or posting on  Spazito   Aug-10-09 09:47 AM   #14 
  - See, the problem with your argument is that it is written, there are currently at least  Greyhound   Aug-10-09 09:51 AM   #15 
  - Thank you ..100% correct! eom  flyarm   Aug-10-09 10:52 AM   #32 
     - 100% incorrect you mean  Scarsdale Vibe   Aug-10-09 11:28 AM   #37 
        - wow are you sorely deluded! how about only 10 million out of 50 million without health care will be  flyarm   Aug-10-09 12:29 PM   #43 
        - You are a fool. flyarm has already addressed your falsehoods, so there's no need to repeat  Greyhound   Aug-10-09 02:17 PM   #46 
  - Your post is so deserving of positive feedback  goclark   Aug-10-09 09:52 AM   #16 
  - So you support that which does not yet exist? No matter what?  Bluenorthwest   Aug-10-09 10:17 AM   #21 
  - LOL! You make shit up about what I actually wrote. Says more about you.  KittyWampus   Aug-10-09 10:41 AM   #28 
     - I'm surprised you won't respond substantively to those legitimate questions  wininboy   Aug-10-09 10:55 AM   #35 
     - Please point out any statement I made up and attributed to you.  Bluenorthwest   Aug-10-09 12:01 PM   #41 
  - The Democrats have done a poor job of refuting the lies and misrepresentations  still_one   Aug-10-09 10:25 AM   #22 
  - It's not "defeatism"'s incredulity  SoCalDem   Aug-10-09 10:36 AM   #25 
  - Bingo !  kentuck   Aug-10-09 10:42 AM   #29 
  - +100. Otherwise, the belligerent and demeaning posts by a select few bullies turns off more people.  timeforpeace   Aug-10-09 11:46 AM   #39 
  - This  ProSense   Aug-10-09 10:47 AM   #31 
     - Can you explain the plan in three sentences?  wininboy   Aug-10-09 11:28 AM   #38 
        - Here  ProSense   Aug-10-09 12:13 PM   #42 
  - There are three version of the bill going through Congress  Zodiak   Aug-10-09 10:54 AM   #34 
  - Are we not supposed to be reading the news and examining drafts of these bills?  Romulox   Aug-10-09 11:48 AM   #40 
  - they find it easy to complain about Obama  Aramchek   Aug-10-09 12:35 PM   #44 
  - 35 years of watching most democrats sell out the working class  ipaint   Aug-10-09 01:01 PM   #45 
  - People like to infantilize themselves. This is a kind of "JUST DO SOMETHING DADDY!!!!"...  BlooInBloo   Aug-10-09 02:22 PM   #47 
  - because they want to be angry, it's all they know.  dionysus   Aug-11-09 08:05 AM   #49 

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