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Sun Aug-09-09 05:35 PM
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| 26. If the Dem Senate caucus would agree to block any Republican filibuster, then ..... |
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Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 05:36 PM by andym
Problem is that the more conservative Dems and Lieberman (I) may not agree.
Clearly, the Democratic party is overall a moderate party. The Reagan era so moved the country to the right that "liberal" is still used pejoratively by some (notice that "progressive" is used much more even on DU). For all the racism, and other problems the country was more open to liberalism in the 60s when the Great Society passed than today.
The extent to which health care and climate is really reformed will determine how far leftward the country can be moved. I urge everyone to spend the maximum time possible urging Congress to do the "right thing"(tm).
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| -If a Dem controlled House, Senate and WH can't even succeed on the POS Public Option, I'm out. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 03:07 PM |
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prostitutes do what prostitues do best, sell out for cash or credit lol nt |
msongs |
Aug-09-09 03:10 PM |
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And I volunteered over 500 hours of my time for this? |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 03:12 PM |
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i think there's a lot of frustration in the activist "corps" right now as we see... |
nashville_brook |
Aug-09-09 04:46 PM |
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Yeah, but you got to be part of making "history." n/t |
newtothegame |
Aug-10-09 11:16 AM |
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some people might take that wrong |
Aragorn |
Aug-09-09 03:13 PM |
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Please, let's not confuse whores and sex workers here |
eridani |
Aug-10-09 05:04 AM |
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Cash, yes, but if you tell them where to stick that credit card they may not be so happy... |
Deja Q |
Aug-09-09 03:31 PM |
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actually, the effects of climate change will trump it, but I agree with your point |
villager |
Aug-09-09 03:12 PM |
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Good point regarding climate change. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 03:23 PM |
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I think you underestimate the value of not being batshit crazy |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-09-09 05:03 PM |
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except now that we've crossed the verge of batshit crazy |
villager |
Aug-09-09 05:46 PM |
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Green Party here I come. |
Peregrine Took |
Aug-09-09 03:13 PM |
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haiku contest |
Aragorn |
Aug-09-09 03:15 PM |
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yes |
qazplm |
Aug-09-09 03:31 PM |
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I gave them 500+ hours of my time and hundreds of my dollars for health care reform. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 03:38 PM |
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B-I-N-G-O |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 06:16 PM |
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Some suckers NEVER know when to leave. |
bvar22 |
Aug-09-09 04:41 PM |
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We did fucking fight |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 06:21 PM |
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"8 months of mother fucking fighting" and still spreading misinformation |
ProSense |
Aug-09-09 06:24 PM |
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The comment was on OFA and lack of leadership |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 06:27 PM |
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Maybe because for many of us, Obama sold us out on Day Number one |
truedelphi |
Aug-10-09 03:19 PM |
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There may be two political parties in Washington, D.C.... |
Raster |
Aug-09-09 03:31 PM |
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Opposames. Dems are just a bit more kinder and gentler..... |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Aug-09-09 04:13 PM |
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Democans or Republicrats. |
dgibby |
Aug-09-09 07:00 PM |
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two sides of the same coin. they say what we want to hear and then do nothing |
ejpoeta |
Aug-09-09 03:39 PM |
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The problem is the Senate. |
grytpype |
Aug-09-09 04:33 PM |
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Democrats alone have enough votes. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 04:39 PM |
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If the wrath of your constituents is great enough, you will go against big donors |
Hippo_Tron |
Aug-09-09 05:10 PM |
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Someone was talking about this on either Countdown or Rachel last |
alsame |
Aug-09-09 05:24 PM |
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You can bet Tom Delay and Bill Frist could have got this thing passed. |
dorkulon |
Aug-09-09 04:50 PM |
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You bet your ass they |
Autumn |
Aug-09-09 05:47 PM |
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Indeed they would have. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 10:38 PM |
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gather enough signatures in every state to put on state ballots |
KakistocracyHater |
Aug-09-09 04:54 PM |
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The final version will not be what we want. But, it will be more than |
Thickasabrick |
Aug-09-09 05:02 PM |
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If only it were half full. Unfortunately, it's almost empty. nt |
Umbral |
Aug-09-09 05:16 PM |
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wrong , it will be a huge boondogle and make a bad system worse |
natrat |
Aug-10-09 05:29 AM |
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I thought we were not to push leaving the Democratic Party |
goclark |
Aug-10-09 08:06 AM |
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Ah, but what if the Democratic Party leaves us? |
Barack_America |
Aug-10-09 08:19 AM |
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It's called America and no one said it would be easy |
goclark |
Aug-10-09 09:58 AM |
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If we wanted RomneyCare, we would have voted for Romney! nt. |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Aug-09-09 05:27 PM |
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If the Dem Senate caucus would agree to block any Republican filibuster, then ..... |
andym |
Aug-09-09 05:35 PM |
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This is a damn shame |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 05:37 PM |
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Yes. That is a damn shame. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 09:43 PM |
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I had two issues |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 09:48 PM |
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Green, GOP or tuning out completely? |
Uzybone |
Aug-09-09 06:23 PM |
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Seems to me they go hand and hand n/t |
AllentownJake |
Aug-09-09 06:24 PM |
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I'll still be a Dem... |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 10:44 PM |
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All politicians are owned. Don't ever forget that. |
deaniac21 |
Aug-09-09 06:33 PM |
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As long as lobbying is allowed and lobbyists continue to wield the cash, |
Raster |
Aug-09-09 09:18 PM |
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The only problem with that is a little thing called free speech. |
deaniac21 |
Aug-11-09 01:37 PM |
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Lobbying--in a stretch--might be free speech if there wasn't mountains of cash. |
Raster |
Aug-11-09 08:22 PM |
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If a Dem controlled House, Senate and WH can't succeed, it's on purpose. |
Gold Metal Flake |
Aug-09-09 10:47 PM |
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That is an excellent point. |
Barack_America |
Aug-09-09 11:01 PM |
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They never intended to suceed |
autorank |
Aug-10-09 12:41 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Aug-10-09 01:23 AM |
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That is the unfortunate conclusion that I'm coming to as well. |
Barack_America |
Aug-10-09 07:43 AM |
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I'm right there with you. |
Krashkopf |
Aug-10-09 12:46 AM |
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where ya gonna go? to jail if you don't buy their scam insurance |
natrat |
Aug-10-09 05:19 AM |
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1. I'm lucky enough to have insurance through my employer.... |
Barack_America |
Aug-10-09 07:47 AM |
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Lucky you! Congratulations! nt |
Blasphemer |
Aug-10-09 12:29 PM |
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I am done with the Democratic Party if they don't pass the public option. End of story. |
BigBearJohn |
Aug-10-09 07:00 AM |
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Well, health care, war and climate change are THE great moral issues of our |
Lorien |
Aug-10-09 11:16 AM |
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