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Sat Aug-08-09 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #180

181. And A Poor Best It Is, Too, Ma'am....

Amazing how you present disagreement with your views, and pointing out their sparse foundation, as 'disrupting and shutting down discussion'. You will not find me complaining that persons expressing views contrary to mine are engaged in silencing me, or disrupting a discussion. Statements like that proceed from two things, and two things only: persons who call disagreement with themselves disruption mistake the word 'discussion' for the phrase 'echo-chamber'; persons who call disagreement with themselves 'shutting down discussion' are openly confessing themselves incapable of sustaining their views against reasoned and informed argument.

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The grave injustice of COMMEMORATING victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 09:56 PM	#0
Well Said, Ma'am!	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 09:57 PM	#1
Thank you Magistrate.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 01:35 AM	#77
What is your opinion on the Russian dimension?	Alamuti Lotus	Aug-08-09 03:08 AM	#91
There Are Two Russian Dimensions, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 03:42 AM	#93
Interesting. How have you commemorated the rape of Nanjing? n/t	ColbertWatcher	Aug-07-09 09:59 PM	#2
They are in my thoughts and I am posting this information to ensure that	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:03 PM	#4
That's a start, I guess. But, how do you commemorate it?	ColbertWatcher	Aug-07-09 10:42 PM	#25
Definition of commemorate: to make honorable mention of.	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:48 PM	#30
Okay. So, to make sure I'm understanding you correctly ...	ColbertWatcher	Aug-07-09 11:24 PM	#52
What is it you're smoking? Where have I ignored any calls of peace?	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 11:59 PM	#58
We do not justify what WE did just because the other guys did something bad first.	ColbertWatcher	Aug-08-09 02:56 AM	#87
Who is doing that? Who is justifying what the US did because of what other guys did first?	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 03:29 AM	#92
You're doing that	stranger81	Aug-08-09 06:08 PM	#195
I'll ask you the same question what are you smoking? Nothing in the OP	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 07:22 PM	#201
Maybe you should reread your OP, titled "the grave injustice of commemorating the victims	stranger81	Aug-08-09 07:53 PM	#202
Obvisiously you're unable to read a complete sentence	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 08:22 PM	#203
hence the second portion of my sentence,	stranger81	Aug-08-09 08:26 PM	#204
Your initial response, post #93 clearly misrepresents my position.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 09:31 PM	#209
how one can act as an apologist for nuking civilians	inna	Aug-09-09 11:22 AM	#241
How you can completely mistate my position is beyond me. My position is clear	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 12:03 PM	#253
Some, apparently, make it Family Fun Day	buzzycrumbhunger	Aug-08-09 12:52 AM	#68
none of that justifies the incineration of the cities of hiroshima and nagasaki	Warren Stupidity	Aug-07-09 10:03 PM	#3
That isn't the issue. The issue is that the suffering of 30 million people has gone	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:13 PM	#10
Yes, dear. Of course.	aquart	Aug-07-09 10:15 PM	#11
Why the snarky remark of "yes dear, of course"? As for Japanese being nice.	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:27 PM	#14
I can't believe you're getting such backlash from your post.	gtar100	Aug-08-09 08:37 AM	#111
Backtrack a little Snag,	verges	Aug-08-09 10:58 PM	#213
It wasn't aimed at her, but it's still an incredibly snarky thing to call someone...	Violet_Crumble	Aug-09-09 04:09 AM	#234
So, is it also an 'interesting side effect' that 9-11 will give us 'shiny new' skyscrapers?	godai	Aug-07-09 10:29 PM	#16
Oops. I thought the response you made to Warren Stupidity was made	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:55 AM	#70
actually- yes, it did.	dysfunctional press	Aug-07-09 10:50 PM	#32
You should read about the 90 years of so of US-Japan relations	Art_from_Ark	Aug-08-09 01:04 AM	#71
Yeah right.	proteus_lives	Aug-08-09 04:45 AM	#97
had commodore perry just left well enough alone...	dysfunctional press	Aug-08-09 09:49 AM	#119
Amen	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-07-09 10:54 PM	#36
If you want to feel guilty, fine. Use "I" not "we". nt	imdjh	Aug-08-09 09:51 AM	#121
deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime	Warren Stupidity	Aug-08-09 12:33 PM	#160
there are no civilians	imdjh	Aug-08-09 01:47 PM	#169
have a nice day	Warren Stupidity	Aug-08-09 06:11 PM	#196
You forgot about the Koreans..	ddeclue	Aug-07-09 10:06 PM	#5
I didn't forget Koreans. I mentioned them in my OP.	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:21 PM	#13
Sorry - I missed the one mention of them - you discussed China in detail but not so much the Koreans	ddeclue	Aug-07-09 10:49 PM	#31
To adequately address what the Japanese did in all the countries it invaded	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 11:03 PM	#42
goes back further than that.	mopinko	Aug-08-09 10:09 AM	#129
can we not condemn all atrocities and remember all victims?	annm4peace	Aug-07-09 10:06 PM	#6
That's a nice saying but it's not always true... sometimes you have to face down force with force.	ddeclue	Aug-07-09 10:07 PM	#
+1	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 12:03 AM	#60
Not if you are trying to make it value neutral, no.	imdjh	Aug-08-09 09:53 AM	#124
exactly	Supersedeas	Aug-11-09 08:54 AM	#279
Yes, we can, and yes, we should. Well said. n/t	Unvanguard	Aug-08-09 11:11 AM	#151
all that being said, to acknowledge the harm done by our Bombs-	Bluerthanblue	Aug-07-09 10:07 PM	#7
Well said...August 6 and 9 are for the remembrance of the only use of nuclear weapons.	godai	Aug-07-09 10:20 PM	#12
I do not minimize the suffering endured by civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 10:41 PM	#24
yes, I believe you do not only minimize it, but try and deflect	Bluerthanblue	Aug-07-09 11:45 PM	#55
Why You Feel, Ma'am, That Fire-Storm 'Doesn't Compare' To Atomic Detonation Quite Escapes Me	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 12:02 AM	#59
have you seen the results of the radiation on the populations ?	Bluerthanblue	Aug-08-09 12:47 AM	#66
None Of That, Ma'am, Is News To Me	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 02:51 AM	#85
+1. great post, i wish i could rec it. nt	inna	Aug-09-09 11:36 AM	#247
I don't believe anything in the OP indicates that I am using one	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 01:26 AM	#75
One atrocity has nothing to do with each other.	HiFructosePronSyrup	Aug-07-09 10:08 PM	#8
Actually, Sir, There Is A Direct Connection	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 10:28 PM	#15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, butterfly flaps its wings, hurricane other side of the world.	HiFructosePronSyrup	Aug-07-09 10:31 PM	#19
No, Sir, It Is Cold Fact	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 10:35 PM	#21
That Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the logical consequence of Nanjing?	HiFructosePronSyrup	Aug-07-09 10:37 PM	#22
Do You Seriously Pretend It Was Not, Sir?	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 10:44 PM	#27
Pearl Harbor, not atrocities in China, got the US into the war against Japan.	godai	Aug-07-09 10:47 PM	#29
There was a China Lobby in the U.S. after Nanking	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug-07-09 10:58 PM	#40
Then You Need, Sir, To Inform Yourself Better On This Passage Of History	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 11:00 PM	#41
To repeat, Pearl Harbor resulted in the US declaration of War against Japan.	godai	Aug-07-09 11:06 PM	#44
And Pearl Harbor Resulted From the Train Of Events Presented Above, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 11:09 PM	#46
No, Pearl Harbor resulted from the US oil embargo.	godai	Aug-07-09 11:13 PM	#48
Which, Sir, Resulted From The Train Of Events Described Above	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 11:18 PM	#50
WTF?!?!?!	TankLV	Aug-08-09 03:01 AM	#90
It would have just been a matter of time	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug-07-09 11:13 PM	#47
And Pearl Harbor happened	verges	Aug-08-09 11:18 PM	#215
Then your belief is WRONG. The US spent many YEARS trying to "persuade" the BRUTAL Japanese	TankLV	Aug-08-09 02:59 AM	#88
Some people can't accept the have been clueless on a topic for years.	Statistical	Aug-08-09 10:11 AM	#131
Well said.	Dreamer Tatum	Aug-09-09 01:46 PM	#266
Pearl harbor WAS BECAUSE of an oil embargo	Confusious	Aug-08-09 04:53 AM	#100
And Pear Harbor was in response to America's	hack89	Aug-08-09 10:00 AM	#128
No, and it's a common little logical fallacy...	HiFructosePronSyrup	Aug-07-09 10:51 PM	#33
Cute, Ma'am, But No Cigar: What You Are Doing Is A sort Of 'Victim Masquerade'	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 11:04 PM	#43
Well said. It was a 6 week pillage and rape vacation for "hard working troops".	Statistical	Aug-08-09 10:15 AM	#133
The study of history is a HATE CRIME!11!!1!!11!!	Romulox	Aug-08-09 01:10 PM	#165
I think it's clear to everyone	noamnety	Aug-08-09 03:48 PM	#184
You Know, Sir, One Of These Days Cut-And Paste Artists Will Have To Provide Dates For These Quotes	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 04:06 PM	#185
I'm agreeing with you completely	noamnety	Aug-08-09 04:34 PM	#187
Comedy, Sir, is Best Left To Professionals....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 04:37 PM	#188
Oh this is rich. As I observed earlier you clearly have no handle on the facts nor	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 04:50 PM	#189
Oh stop. I'm agreeing with him.	noamnety	Aug-08-09 05:00 PM	#190
Jokes, Sir, Divide Into Those Which Are Always Funny, And Those Which Are Funny Only Once....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 05:04 PM	#191
So there is no direct connection between brutal imperialistic expansion and occupation	hack89	Aug-08-09 09:51 AM	#120
Nonsense, Sir.	ShamelessHussy	Aug-07-09 10:33 PM	#20
Not In The Slightest, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 10:37 PM	#23
Well stated, Magistrate!	neverforget	Aug-08-09 12:10 AM	#61
Hear. Hear. nt	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 02:07 AM	#83
I say old man, WELL DONE!	Confusious	Aug-08-09 04:56 AM	#101
Well played! eom	Hobarticus	Aug-08-09 10:53 AM	#142
Direct connection	Confusious	Aug-08-09 04:51 AM	#99
Maybe Truman did, maybe he didn't, but	Dreamer Tatum	Aug-09-09 01:49 PM	#267
Unit 731 - the Japanese were developing weapons of mass destruction	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug-07-09 10:13 PM	#9
If I recall correctly, a deal was made with the US military	steaa	Aug-08-09 01:28 PM	#167
You are correct about Unit 731.	greguganus	Aug-08-09 09:00 PM	#207
The unspoken tragedy of H&N which I wanted my OP to address	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 08:55 PM	#275
Interesting...	The Mailman	Aug-07-09 10:30 PM	#17
the same kind of atrocities Bush committed.	alarimer	Aug-08-09 01:17 AM	#73
I was thinking	The Mailman	Aug-08-09 02:20 PM	#171
dp	The Mailman	Aug-07-09 10:30 PM	#18
NOTHING justifies a nuclear bomb that killed innocent people	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-07-09 10:43 PM	#26
That, Ma'am, Is Not Even A Good Bumper-Sticker, Let Alone A Considered View Of The Events	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 10:46 PM	#28
I'm not writing a bumper sticker	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-07-09 10:52 PM	#35
This apparently happens every August 6. I thought it was over for this year until this post.	godai	Aug-07-09 10:55 PM	#37
How nice the want to move on and shake off their past. In todays Korea Herald,	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:41 AM	#65
Apparently!	The Mailman	Aug-07-09 10:55 PM	#38
Actually, Ma'am, That Is All You Are Doing	The Magistrate	Aug-07-09 11:06 PM	#45
Stuff it, Sir	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-08-09 07:29 AM	#109
He is already overstuffed and inflated.	Bonobo	Aug-08-09 10:36 AM	#140
Now There, Sir, Is A Text-Book Overthrow Of A Point Pressed With Fact And Logic....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 12:21 PM	#158
Touche Magistrate.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:31 PM	#159
Two wrongs never make a right	Ichingcarpenter	Aug-09-09 04:07 AM	#233
Ah, But Three Do, Sir...	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 11:47 AM	#251
Your Decision To Blind Yourself, Sir, Neither Concerns, Interests, Or Binds Me	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 12:19 PM	#157
+1. exactly. bravo.	inna	Aug-09-09 12:09 PM	#255
I think you're missing the point.	Unvanguard	Aug-08-09 10:50 AM	#141
Your Well-Reasoned Comment, Sir, Is Much Appreciated	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 01:13 PM	#166
Well, there are a few separate questions here.	Unvanguard	Aug-08-09 02:33 PM	#174
Our Views, then, Sir, Would Seem To Be Largely Similar, Or At Least To Have Substantial Overlap	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 03:10 PM	#178
But there are those who have a need to rationalize this unique American use of nuclear weapons. n/t	godai	Aug-07-09 10:51 PM	#34
Nothing justifies deliberately misquoting an OP.	snagglepuss	Aug-07-09 11:28 PM	#53
What's next? The Germans were justified in murdering Jews?	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-08-09 07:31 AM	#110
Oh, Do Expand On That One, Ma'am....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 02:12 PM	#170
Well Said, Ma'am!	ShamelessHussy	Aug-07-09 11:34 PM	#54
But we're Americans, everything we do is ALWAYS justified.	alarimer	Aug-08-09 01:19 AM	#74
Tell who gives a shit about the 30 million people Japan killed. Who gives a	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 02:05 AM	#82
They people that were killed in Hiroshima had nothing to do with that.	alarimer	Aug-08-09 10:30 AM	#137
It was justified.	proteus_lives	Aug-08-09 04:10 AM	#94
Just out of curiosity, what would you have done?	Marr	Aug-09-09 01:34 PM	#265
I'm glad you posted this.	Gemini Cat	Aug-07-09 10:57 PM	#39
Thanks for that feedback. I'm really susrprised by some of the reactions.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:30 AM	#63
my dad was in the army in WWII - mostly in New Guinea but the Philippines too for a bit	nini	Aug-07-09 11:13 PM	#49
What Japan did in China indirectly led to the dropping of the Atomic Bomb.	4lbs	Aug-07-09 11:22 PM	#51
Thank you for sharing	Fleet	Aug-07-09 11:46 PM	#56
I am surprised by all the flack this OP created. Thanks for your comments.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:11 AM	#62
dp.... minds out of the gutter, that's double post	Fleet	Aug-07-09 11:47 PM	#57
Let them grieve ... war sucks.	GodlyDemocrat	Aug-08-09 12:32 AM	#64
My issue is that most people don't know half about what Japan did.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 01:49 AM	#81
You have described War as it has Ever been fought. Raping, Pillaging,	yodermon	Aug-08-09 12:49 AM	#67
Recommend	TexasObserver	Aug-08-09 12:54 AM	#69
K&R	kiva	Aug-08-09 01:13 AM	#72
By this principle, what should be an appropriate response to the War of Aggression against Iraq	patrice	Aug-08-09 09:41 AM	#116
The Japanese, sadly, have a very selective cultural memory	Rabrrrrrr	Aug-08-09 01:30 AM	#76
Classic example	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 01:39 AM	#78
You don't really know anything about the Japanese, do you?	Rabrrrrrr	Aug-08-09 01:44 AM	#79
I have actually heard scholars of Japan say what you just argued, Rabrrrrrr	anneboleyn	Aug-08-09 05:28 AM	#103
And I live in Japan part of the year, and my SO is Japanese	Rabrrrrrr	Aug-08-09 09:14 AM	#113
Thanks for posting this , snagglepuss. It's too easy to armchair quarterback sixty	Vidar	Aug-08-09 01:47 AM	#80
Thank you for that feedback. I am really surprised at how much rancor this	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 02:42 AM	#84
Thank You! How easy it is for the apologists to IGNORE this "inconvenient" TRUTH!!!	TankLV	Aug-08-09 02:54 AM	#86
I love a thread where The Magistrate posts more than once. Thanks for the thread.	Morning Dew	Aug-08-09 03:00 AM	#89
Thanks Snaggle for your research and links...	hayu_lol	Aug-08-09 04:49 AM	#98
K&R!!	virginia mountainman	Aug-08-09 04:15 AM	#95
Great post!	proteus_lives	Aug-08-09 04:20 AM	#96
Massmurder of innocents because the more powerful want to extend their power is certainly	ConsAreLiars	Aug-08-09 05:19 AM	#102
It Was Not Over, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 05:33 AM	#105
Eisenhower held my view.	ConsAreLiars	Aug-09-09 03:30 AM	#226
Your fallacy is that you assume it was over.	Statistical	Aug-08-09 09:46 AM	#118
See my post #226 just above yours (nt)	ConsAreLiars	Aug-09-09 03:32 AM	#227
I knew very little of this. Thank you.	EFerrari	Aug-08-09 05:28 AM	#104
It Is, Unfortunately, Little Known, And Even Less Appreciated, Ma'am, Here In The West	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 05:41 AM	#106
I'm watching Iris Chang on BookTV speak about her book, Rape.	EFerrari	Aug-08-09 06:20 PM	#198
Thank You, Ma'am: I Will Keep An Eye Towards It	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 09:53 PM	#211
Ah, the good old "blame the victim" gambit...	regnaD kciN	Aug-08-09 06:13 AM	#107
You Are The Second Person To Try That Puerile Wheeze In This Discussion, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 06:17 AM	#108
Thanks for your posts here, Magistrate! Cogent, true, accurate - and "puerile wheeze" is lol!	Rabrrrrrr	Aug-08-09 09:20 AM	#114
Indeed. It wasn't a war we wanted, but one we had to fight.	TexasObserver	Aug-08-09 09:59 AM	#127
"puerile wheeze" lol!	Hassin Bin Sober	Aug-08-09 10:34 AM	#139
wow	patrice	Aug-08-09 09:55 AM	#126
An outstanding OP, and educational thead. Thank you. nt	Obamanaut	Aug-08-09 08:40 AM	#112
A belated thank you. I am astonded that it has received so much flack	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 09:12 PM	#276
"It was justified." "They started it. We ended it." So, what would be a just response to Shock&Awe?	patrice	Aug-08-09 09:28 AM	#115
Exactly.	bahrbearian	Aug-08-09 09:51 AM	#122
That wasn't the point. See #123 n/t	Statistical	Aug-08-09 09:53 AM	#125
You are missing the point (or just projecting).	Statistical	Aug-08-09 09:52 AM	#123
This is about dropping a Bomb on Civilians.	bahrbearian	Aug-08-09 10:14 AM	#132
Exactly. It was the fastest way to stop the Imperial Army.	Statistical	Aug-08-09 10:21 AM	#135
Did you not hear ,Einsinhower stated they were ready to surrender before the Bomb	bahrbearian	Aug-08-09 10:26 AM	#136
"surrender" vs surrender.	Statistical	Aug-08-09 10:33 AM	#138
Hindsight is awesome that way....	Hobarticus	Aug-08-09 11:02 AM	#146
The Statement, Ma'am, Was Made Many, Many Years After The Event	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 02:23 PM	#172
As is yours however his & other military leaders who where there at the time cary much more weight	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 02:59 PM	#176
At Least, Ma'am, You Are Giving the Search Engines a Work-Out....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 03:12 PM	#179
I do my best to provide relevant information to support my views	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 03:17 PM	#180
And A Poor Best It Is, Too, Ma'am....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 03:27 PM	#181
Thank you for illustrating my point	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 03:34 PM	#182
You Have Said You Are Breaking Off Several Times Already, Ma'am, And Yet, Here You Are....	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 03:39 PM	#183
En guard Magistrate. Which might I ask of your posts are more	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 04:21 PM	#186
Don't call me Ma'am ,, Bitch.	bahrbearian	Aug-08-09 10:59 PM	#214
You Know, Ma'am, It Would Probably Be Worth Alerting On This, But Best To Let It Stand	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 11:04 AM	#237
Game. Set. Match.	neverforget	Aug-09-09 02:37 PM	#269
Absolutely nothing do with the OP, thanks for playing. eom	Hobarticus	Aug-08-09 10:55 AM	#144
how clever! pardon me if I'm somewhat under-whelmed by your sycophantic lack of any kind of case	patrice	Aug-08-09 11:08 AM	#150
I don't think sycophantic is a good term to use here, but I'll play...	Hobarticus	Aug-08-09 11:41 AM	#154
The fact that the 30 million deaths are victims of fascism is paramont.	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 02:22 PM	#268
Excellent post.. nt	hack89	Aug-08-09 09:45 AM	#117
So, it's not about what is Just, but, rather, what works. But, what if it hadn't worked?	patrice	Aug-08-09 10:10 AM	#130
K&R	closeupready	Aug-08-09 10:16 AM	#134
You forgot Poland.	H2O Man	Aug-08-09 10:54 AM	#143
I don't understand how Poland factors into a thread about Japanese atrocities.	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 11:32 AM	#152
"the Japanese to this day refuse to fully acknowledge their guilt."	noamnety	Aug-08-09 10:56 AM	#145
Ouch. n/t	Unvanguard	Aug-08-09 11:04 AM	#148
Don't forget "Long Live the South!"	patrice	Aug-08-09 11:04 AM	#149
So if you are concerned and rightly so about harm inflicted on First Nations	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 12:00 PM	#156
logic problem in your post	noamnety	Aug-08-09 12:34 PM	#161
Glaring lack of historical fact in yours. Japan killed 30 MILLION people, not POWS	snagglepuss	Aug-08-09 01:03 PM	#162
It would be a better analogy if we claimed Columbus was a victim at the hands of Native Americans	Romulox	Aug-08-09 01:07 PM	#163
"I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal." -Curtis Lemay	hedgehog	Aug-08-09 11:04 AM	#147
DING.DING. DING . You have hit the nail on the head. H&N commemorations	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 12:21 PM	#260
My stand these days is quite simple... you want to remember	nadinbrzezinski	Aug-08-09 11:37 AM	#153
That Some Do, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 05:27 PM	#192
We don't hear about it because the collective consciousness thinks they have atoned.	lumberjack_jeff	Aug-08-09 11:57 AM	#155
The Chinese, not the Japanese, are ascendant. They have not forgotten what Japan did in WWII	Romulox	Aug-08-09 01:08 PM	#164
Sigh. It's not a contest.	BlooInBloo	Aug-08-09 01:30 PM	#168
+1	Hansel	Aug-08-09 02:24 PM	#173
+2	proud2BlibKansan	Aug-08-09 05:36 PM	#193
The war couldn't end until the United States proved it could be just as wretched as the enemy.	Umbral	Aug-08-09 02:52 PM	#175
Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan (2005) by Tsuyoshi Hasegawa	ShamelessHussy	Aug-08-09 03:08 PM	#177
What more do you want?	AsahinaKimi	Aug-08-09 05:46 PM	#194
some here wish to pretend that the one nation on earth to ever	Warren Stupidity	Aug-08-09 06:18 PM	#197
A formal apology would be a good thing. The governments of both	EFerrari	Aug-08-09 06:29 PM	#199
Portraits of Manzanar	AsahinaKimi	Aug-08-09 07:00 PM	#200
Pitiable, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 08:40 PM	#206
I am asking what more do you want...	AsahinaKimi	Aug-08-09 09:04 PM	#208
Nowhere Near Enough Was, Or Has Now Been, Done, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Aug-08-09 09:39 PM	#210
so you believe there should have been	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 02:05 AM	#218
The Japanese would have loved those.	proteus_lives	Aug-09-09 02:16 AM	#220
Everyone of them?	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 02:25 AM	#221
What hate? This is merely facts.	proteus_lives	Aug-09-09 03:28 AM	#225
I am not uncomfortable about the truth.	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 05:03 AM	#235
Hatred? Please be so kind to state which posts you refer to. I hope you have	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 12:52 PM	#262
That, Ma'am, Is Simply Hysterical Distortion	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 11:01 AM	#236
Ironic to hear someone ignoring crimes while accusing others of ignoring crimes.	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 11:20 AM	#240
You Do Not Even Take That Statement Seriously Yourself, Sir....	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 11:29 AM	#244
Not at all.	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 11:33 AM	#245
Again, Sir, Utter Nonesense	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 11:43 AM	#250
I agree that the bomb does not absolve the guilt of Japanese crimes. Similarly...	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 11:55 AM	#252
War, Sir, And Revenge, Will Continue On This Earth Quite Independent Of Me....	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 12:12 PM	#256
You can claim that bombing an innocent, urban population was necessary?	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 12:17 PM	#258
Spoken, Sir, Like A Man Who Has Never Given Six Minutes Consecutive Thought To The Problem....	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 12:21 PM	#259
The point at which we disagree is this one.	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 12:44 PM	#261
well stated	fascisthunter	Aug-09-09 02:47 PM	#270
Welcome To My World, Son	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 02:57 PM	#273
full regalia	datasuspect	Aug-11-09 07:27 AM	#278
I have read that 75% of American POWs of the Japanese never came back alive	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug-08-09 11:51 PM	#216
We want the Japanese to acknowledge the Rape of China and Korea.	proteus_lives	Aug-09-09 02:12 AM	#219
again,,,	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 02:32 AM	#222
Yet they continue to visit the Yasukuni Shrine.	proteus_lives	Aug-09-09 03:07 AM	#223
Is there something wrong with honoring your dead?	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 03:11 AM	#224
Nothing wrong with honoring the dead.	proteus_lives	Aug-09-09 03:35 AM	#228
Gunshin ..	AsahinaKimi	Aug-09-09 03:54 AM	#230
If only I had a sock puppet	stranger81	Aug-08-09 08:28 PM	#205
Article 9 of Japanese Constitution states that	kgnu_fan	Aug-08-09 10:34 PM	#212
kr	verges	Aug-09-09 12:30 AM	#217
NHK's Finest Hour: Japan's Official Record of Chinese Forced Labor	DainBramaged	Aug-09-09 03:51 AM	#229
I wasn't aware that anyone was forgetting about Japanese atrocities...	Violet_Crumble	Aug-09-09 03:58 AM	#231
I think H&N commemorations should be framed as a commemoration of	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 11:39 AM	#248
Here's a difference. We did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So WE must reflect on it.	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 12:08 PM	#254
We should reflect on the fact the fascist ideology embraced by the Japanese	snagglepuss	Aug-09-09 01:12 PM	#263
Japan remembers Chinese who died through forced labour	DainBramaged	Aug-09-09 04:03 AM	#232
I am stunned by this OP and all the support it's getting. Those Japanese civilians	ecstatic	Aug-09-09 11:07 AM	#238
It shows we are a far sicker country than them.	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 11:16 AM	#239
Agree	Orwellian_Ghost	Aug-09-09 11:24 AM	#242
But Neither Stunned Nor Educated, Apparently, Ma'am, By It Content....	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 12:15 PM	#257
what's with all the pomposity and condescension?	inna	Aug-09-09 01:20 PM	#264
"The grave injustice of COMMEMORATING civilian victims"???	inna	Aug-09-09 11:25 AM	#243
Yes, how dare anyone commemorate victims!!!	Bonobo	Aug-09-09 11:34 AM	#246
"Wouldn't be prudent" to commemorate My Lai either	tj2001	Aug-09-09 11:41 AM	#249
its a bit sociopathic actually	fascisthunter	Aug-09-09 02:50 PM	#271
Care To Expand On That, Sir?	The Magistrate	Aug-09-09 05:14 PM	#274
It's pretty self explanatory by what I meant	fascisthunter	Aug-10-09 12:10 PM	#277
Yes... never commemorate victims, especially the US's victims	fascisthunter	Aug-09-09 02:54 PM	#272

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