Reply #8: He brings up a good point.

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"...But right now Mr. Obama’s backers seem to lack all conviction, perhaps because the prosaic reality of his administration isn’t living up to their dreams of transformation. Meanwhile, the angry right is filled with a passionate intensity.

And if Mr. Obama can’t recapture some of the passion of 2008, can’t inspire his supporters to stand up and be heard, health care reform may well fail."

Remember that definition of insanity - doing the same thing.......etc. That is probably the best argument to cease this bi-partisan posing and move forward. All that is bring accomplished is thick skulled rethugs are being dragged, kicking and screaming (into a microphone), to the table but they are NOT going to partake of one morsel, so let 'em starve!