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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-30-09 06:39 AM
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13. Not true at all. The SCOTUS has limited the power of Republican power grabbers as well
Edited on Thu Jul-30-09 06:44 AM by No Elephants
as Democratic power grabbers. The Patriot Act cases, among many others, show that. Problem is, the SCOTUS cannot do anything, unless and until a case gets to it. Most often, only Congress has standing to bring the case; and Congress has not been quick to bring cases. The separation of, and balance of, the respective powers of the three branches is not to be taken lightly.

We've seen the unitary executive. No thanks, whether it is a Republican or a Democrat. And, when a SCOTUS precedent gets set, it often stays set for a very long time, through many Democratic administrations and many Republican administrations.

More importantly, as far as the line item veto, your problem would seem to be not with the SCOTUS but with the Founders and the Constitution, and perhaps with the apathy of the American voter.

The Contitution is not crystal clear on many things, but it has been pretty clear from Day One that only Congress has the power of the purse. That includes the power to open the purse and the power to close it. And with good reason. It would be bizarre if one person had the power to overrule 435 duly elected members of the House, who face voters every two years, and 100 Senators, forcing them to overturn a veto.

Thing is, Americans are supposed to hold their Senators and members of Congress accountable for wasteful spending by hounding them and booting them out of office, if they do not respond to the hounding. We don't do that. And we blame lobbyists, greed, corruption, the SCOTUS--anyone and anything except the laziness and apathy of the American public, which either stays home, especially at midterm time, or votes the same shlubs back to Washington until they croak.



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  -House Set to Spend $6.9B on Unwanted Military Equipment undeterred  Jul-29-09 04:41 PM   #0 
  - This is why the line item veto was needed  bluestateguy   Jul-29-09 04:43 PM   #1 
  - Its not needed  Oregone   Jul-29-09 04:43 PM   #2 
  - GREEDY PIGS at the PUBLIC TROUGH  saigon68   Jul-29-09 06:53 PM   #12 
  - Not true at all. The SCOTUS has limited the power of Republican power grabbers as well  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 06:39 AM   #13 
  - It's why we need to prosecute those who try to bribe Congress...  Orsino   Jul-30-09 07:09 AM   #17 
  - Who drew up this list? Which Congressmen from what states?  Rosa Luxemburg   Jul-29-09 04:47 PM   #3 
  - Military  Renew Deal   Jul-29-09 04:56 PM   #4 
  - They add pork for campaign lobbyists that bribe them.  HillbillyBob   Jul-29-09 05:03 PM   #5 
  - You never see earmarks directed toward human needs.  undeterred   Jul-29-09 05:13 PM   #6 
  - gotta keep those bribes coming in from the military-industrial criminals complex lol nt  msongs   Jul-29-09 05:54 PM   #7 
  - Money for war machines but none for health care ...sociopath asscarrots!  L0oniX   Jul-29-09 06:08 PM   #8 
  - more important to kill, rather than heal  fascisthunter   Jul-29-09 06:27 PM   #9 
  - Congress always does this and always will; here's why  jmowreader   Jul-29-09 06:27 PM   #10 
  - Single payer health care could create jobs, if given a chance, though. And with a lot less  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 06:56 AM   #15 
  - The Blue Dog Job Security Act.  Dr.Phool   Jul-29-09 06:47 PM   #11 
  - Thing is, Blue Dogs and Republicans will not be the only ones who vote for it. As long  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 06:51 AM   #14 
  - Military Industrial Complex's Welfare Queens.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-30-09 06:58 AM   #16 
 

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