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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 04:37 PM
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1. No.
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 04:39 PM by Oregone
What part of her old reform had anything to do with incrementally and pragmatically expanding Medicare (at least lowering the age limit) for a centrist compromise?

If she wouldn't even be in favor of that, what use is she?
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  -Do you ever wish that Hillary Clinton was still in the Senate working on health care? bluestateguy  Jul-29-09 04:36 PM   #0 
  - No.  Oregone   Jul-29-09 04:37 PM   #1 
  - I agree. Her vision was corporatist and not what we need for a real  Cleita   Jul-29-09 10:43 PM   #23 
  - I like her better doing whatever Obama tells her to do, rather than being free to snipe at him...  BlooInBloo   Jul-29-09 04:38 PM   #2 
  - Her speeches most certainly do sound better...  Oregone   Jul-29-09 04:40 PM   #3 
  - Hillary was an enthusiastic campaigner for Obama in the GE and worked hard to elect him.  StevieM   Jul-29-09 04:56 PM   #9 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-29-09 04:59 PM   #11 
  - Yes indeed she was  bluestateguy   Jul-29-09 05:03 PM   #16 
     - Thanks!!!  Beacool   Jul-30-09 08:38 AM   #53 
  - +1  JVS   Jul-30-09 01:01 AM   #33 
  - I guess if I subract 1 that makes it even.  theHandpuppet   Jul-30-09 04:43 AM   #46 
  - You have a primitive view of government, Archie.  rug   Jul-30-09 04:58 AM   #47 
  - Hush, Palin.  BlooInBloo   Jul-30-09 04:05 PM   #81 
  - +1  Fire1   Jul-30-09 09:06 AM   #61 
  - No, I like the idea that her time in government is coming to an end.  billyoc   Jul-29-09 04:44 PM   #4 
  - Right....Obama wouldn't see any drop in his poll numbers if he fired her (eom)  StevieM   Jul-29-09 04:51 PM   #6 
  - He doesn't have to fire her, she's gone when he's gone.  billyoc   Jul-29-09 04:59 PM   #12 
     - what are you saying? that he will be gone soon? let me ask  Sebass1271   Jul-29-09 05:29 PM   #19 
        - They'll both be gone in eight years, Hillary maybe in 4, whereas she might've lingered for decades  billyoc   Jul-29-09 10:39 PM   #22 
        - Right. And she gave up her Senate career (which she loved) when Obama appealed to her  StevieM   Jul-30-09 03:02 AM   #42 
           - No, I wouldn't expect him to fire her. Still, 7 1/2 years 'til I'm Hillary Free...  billyoc   Jul-30-09 04:20 AM   #43 
        - I've heard Hillary will be running for NY governor.  tekisui   Jul-30-09 08:51 AM   #55 
  - NY Governor is next up for her.  tekisui   Jul-30-09 08:51 AM   #56 
     - We'll see.  billyoc   Jul-30-09 01:56 PM   #68 
  - Soooo... you're against a public option? (nt)  redqueen   Jul-29-09 04:45 PM   #5 
  - Not much of a history buff are you...  armyowalgreens   Jul-30-09 04:23 AM   #44 
     - So the Clinton health care plan did have a public option?  redqueen   Jul-30-09 09:19 AM   #62 
  - Hillary has a spine and that certainly IS missed in our Senate.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-09 04:53 PM   #7 
  - Can you give me a few examples where she stood against  karynnj   Jul-30-09 01:00 AM   #32 
  - Neither was it Obama's........  Beacool   Jul-30-09 01:33 AM   #40 
     - Obama did push an ethics bill with more teeth than any in decades  karynnj   Jul-30-09 01:39 AM   #41 
  - Have to disagree with you there, SCQ. She never USED that spine to oppose Bush on any major  blm   Jul-30-09 08:37 AM   #51 
  - She was on the HELP committee  frazzled   Jul-29-09 04:54 PM   #8 
  - no. no. NO!  dysfunctional press   Jul-29-09 04:57 PM   #10 
  - Ummm, the right?  JohnnyLib2   Jul-29-09 05:01 PM   #15 
  - What Right????????  Beacool   Jul-30-09 01:24 AM   #35 
  - Self delete, posted twice.  Beacool   Jul-30-09 01:24 AM   #36 
  - Oh, fuck no. n/t  superduperfarleft   Jul-29-09 05:00 PM   #13 
  - It wouldn't help us as far as MSM spin goes  ecstatic   Jul-29-09 05:00 PM   #14 
  - Instead of orchestrating the Honduran coup? You bet.  timeforpeace   Jul-29-09 05:22 PM   #17 
  - ouch  leftstreet   Jul-30-09 12:39 AM   #29 
  - ""I can envision a day when you will have to show proof of insurance at the job interview""  Fumesucker   Jul-29-09 05:23 PM   #18 
  - Reid would still have appointed Baucus. The Republicans would  OHdem10   Jul-29-09 05:56 PM   #20 
  - No!  Individualist   Jul-29-09 06:56 PM   #21 
  - No, I'd rather she was gracefully retired to private life.  scarletwoman   Jul-29-09 11:03 PM   #24 
  - Not really.  Naturyl   Jul-29-09 11:53 PM   #25 
  - Why bother asking the question?  Beacool   Jul-29-09 11:54 PM   #26 
  - Show us ONE TIME she fought tooth and nails as a senator? She was Lieberman in an orange pantsuit.  blm   Jul-30-09 08:41 AM   #54 
  - Not Fair!  bvar22   Jul-30-09 02:27 PM   #70 
  - LOL.....  blm   Jul-30-09 06:02 PM   #91 
  - And Obama fought tooth and nail as a senator? LOL nt  Liquorice   Jul-30-09 02:28 PM   #71 
     - No - but no one is CLAIMING he did. Is THAT your dodge for Clinton's docility in senate? LOL  blm   Jul-30-09 03:38 PM   #79 
        - Is Obama Lieberman too then? NT  Liquorice   Jul-30-09 04:12 PM   #82 
           - No, Clinton is - look at their votes from 2001-2008. She was so docile in the Senate while siding  blm   Jul-30-09 05:33 PM   #84 
              - The fact is neither Clinton nor Obama did huge things in the senate. If you  Liquorice   Jul-30-09 05:36 PM   #86 
                 - The point I was replying to was the claim Hillary was such a fighter. Prove it using her record  blm   Jul-30-09 05:39 PM   #87 
  - I have so soured...  joeybee12   Jul-30-09 03:16 PM   #78 
  - Ummm She was not even on the Finance committee  karynnj   Jul-30-09 12:11 AM   #27 
  - YES! She was FANTASTIC Senator, and is SORELY missed in NY & the COUNTRY!!!  TankLV   Jul-30-09 12:17 AM   #28 
  - Can you tell me any issue that she really lead on in the Senate?  karynnj   Jul-30-09 12:58 AM   #31 
     - OK... she LED the center-right to stand with Bush on ALL of his war decisions.  blm   Jul-30-09 06:04 PM   #92 
  - I don't think she'd make any significant difference. Now, if she could replace Bad Max then you're  TheKentuckian   Jul-30-09 12:57 AM   #30 
  - Well I seem to have kicked up a lot of venom with this thread  bluestateguy   Jul-30-09 01:19 AM   #34 
  - You said it!!!!!!!!!!!  Beacool   Jul-30-09 01:28 AM   #38 
  - And some have short memories.  JTFrog   Jul-30-09 04:30 AM   #45 
  - Hillary campaigned on Romney-style mandatory corporate "coverage".  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-30-09 01:25 AM   #37 
  - Yes, she supported mandatory coverage  blue_onyx   Jul-30-09 11:18 AM   #64 
  - No. Simply, no. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-30-09 01:29 AM   #39 
  - Depends. The people of Honduras would prefer her still in the senate.  Duende azul   Jul-30-09 05:12 AM   #48 
  - The people from Honduras?  Beacool   Jul-30-09 08:29 AM   #49 
     - Oh. By your brilliant logic, go ahead: let the military remove Obama from office.  Duende azul   Jul-30-09 02:42 PM   #74 
  - NO! Last thing we need is another corporate Dem working against our best interest!  mod mom   Jul-30-09 08:32 AM   #50 
  - I didn't particularly like Hillarycare (or Obamacare for that fact of matter), but.....  marmar   Jul-30-09 08:38 AM   #52 
  - I'd would have rather had Hillary in the White House n/t  DeadEyeDyck   Jul-30-09 08:57 AM   #57 
  - Hear, hear!!!  Beacool   Jul-30-09 09:02 AM   #60 
     - it wasn't meant to be, Bea. she's doing a great job as SoS.  dionysus   Jul-30-09 11:07 AM   #63 
        - Next time around, my friend...................  Beacool   Jul-30-09 11:38 AM   #66 
  - No. It's in enough jeopardy as it is.  saltpoint   Jul-30-09 08:58 AM   #58 
  - It would be fascinating to have the President's answer to the OP!  JohnnyLib2   Jul-30-09 09:01 AM   #59 
  - Nope...  BolivarianHero   Jul-30-09 11:19 AM   #65 
  - Hell, I wish she were majority leader in the Senate.  burning rain   Jul-30-09 12:31 PM   #67 
  - She would have excelled in that, I think. I hope she runs for president after Obama. nt  Liquorice   Jul-30-09 02:07 PM   #69 
  - Better question...wouldn't it be nice if ANYONE in the Senate was working on REFORM?  joeybee12   Jul-30-09 02:29 PM   #72 
  - +1  backtoblue   Jul-30-09 04:17 PM   #83 
  - She already was in the Senate, failing to work on health care...  Orsino   Jul-30-09 02:36 PM   #73 
  - One of the reasons SOS was appealing to her was beacuse Reid and Teddy  joeybee12   Jul-30-09 02:51 PM   #76 
     - Exactly.  Beacool   Jul-30-09 03:04 PM   #77 
     - What an idiot I am...I meant to reply to you...  joeybee12   Jul-30-09 03:40 PM   #80 
     - baloney - the first time GOP hit back on healthcare Bill rolled over and she slunk away and never  blm   Jul-30-09 05:36 PM   #85 
        - She fought for the citizens of New York for their interests, and was  joeybee12   Jul-30-09 05:42 PM   #88 
           - She fought for 'their' interests? NY sided with Bush and wanted HRC to be docile? Sorry you drank  blm   Jul-30-09 05:56 PM   #89 
  - She should have Harry Reid's job!  DailyGrind51   Jul-30-09 02:50 PM   #75 
     - Use her senate record and show us how she used that 'pair' please.  blm   Jul-30-09 05:59 PM   #90 

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