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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:30 PM
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67. If this were an OP
I would give it a rec. And I don't hand them out like candy.
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  -The Single Payer Action group has a new project. Discredit Dean. madfloridian  Jul-27-09 06:41 PM   #0 
  - So feel free to get those unrecommends ready.... because..  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 06:43 PM   #1 
  - Recommended. Attacking Dean is disgusting.  bobbolink   Jul-27-09 08:07 PM   #57 
  - They are all-or-nothing zealots who understand little, if anything, about how the world works  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-27-09 06:48 PM   #2 
  - I have an even darker notion...  Jackpine Radical   Jul-27-09 06:55 PM   #3 
  - BS, it's a totally different scenario.  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 07:09 PM   #17 
  - Then make sure we get nothing at all.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:12 PM   #23 
  - Single payer couldn't be taken off of the table because it was never on the table to begin with  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-27-09 07:20 PM   #33 
     - Exactly.  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 07:23 PM   #36 
  - More proof of who is "naderizing" the debate. Dean seems to think S.P. and P.O. are the same thing.  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 08:17 PM   #63 
  - And the world works different in American, whereas, much of the rest of the civilized world...  Oregone   Jul-27-09 06:56 PM   #5 
     - You think I am making excuses for failed leaders?  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:00 PM   #7 
     - Yes. Its getting tired  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:02 PM   #8 
        - Well, that is very clear how you view me. Thanks for the honesty.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:04 PM   #10 
        - You are welcome  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:05 PM   #12 
        - Then wear a medal...  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:07 PM   #14 
           - Single-payer is a centrist compromise  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:08 PM   #16 
           - Well, then continue your quest for perfection.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:11 PM   #20 
           - You don't find perfection.  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:15 PM   #26 
              - I have fought hard here for rights for everyone.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:19 PM   #31 
                 - Yes, it makes me feel much better  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:22 PM   #34 
                 - "We should be working together to get the best we can get."  edc   Jul-29-09 11:26 AM   #130 
           - In a single payer system for profit insurance might exist but it wouldn't be  nosmokes   Jul-27-09 07:32 PM   #44 
           - Im not confused  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:34 PM   #45 
              - Then how on earth do you come to the conclusion single payer is a  nosmokes   Jul-27-09 07:46 PM   #51 
                 - Ah...thats where you missed it.  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:54 PM   #53 
           - Not in context. Nobody is calling for socialized medicine.  TheKentuckian   Jul-28-09 12:54 AM   #105 
           - I am. I don't care how they get there but help everyone. Cover everyone.  glinda   Jul-28-09 05:30 PM   #124 
           - Look, many Americans believe the propaganda about how awful  JDPriestly   Jul-28-09 11:02 AM   #114 
           - It is also quite possible to understand that on some issues,  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-27-09 07:32 PM   #43 
              - "You act as though the people on this board will be on the floor voting on the bill OR that their"  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:35 PM   #46 
                 - You obviously want me to die in a gutter somewhere!  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 08:09 PM   #59 
        - why not see if registered Dems get covered by the same Federal Plan as our  KakistocracyHater   Jul-27-09 10:02 PM   #93 
        - "Hold them to a real standard."  MilesColtrane   Jul-27-09 09:13 PM   #78 
           - Or leave  Oregone   Jul-27-09 09:49 PM   #88 
              - Don't you have something Canadian to do?  MilesColtrane   Jul-27-09 09:52 PM   #90 
                 - Im doing it  Oregone   Jul-27-09 10:51 PM   #97 
                    - Really?  MilesColtrane   Jul-27-09 11:07 PM   #98 
                       - If thats what they are strategizing for...  Oregone   Jul-27-09 11:10 PM   #99 
                          - You guess wrong.  MilesColtrane   Jul-28-09 12:07 AM   #102 
     - self deleted  MilesColtrane   Jul-27-09 09:11 PM   #76 
  - I wrote the leadership of the Progressive Caucus and asked them to vote "no."  Laelth   Jul-27-09 06:56 PM   #4 
  - Then let us have nothing.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 06:59 PM   #6 
  - I have tremendous respect for you, madfloridian.  Laelth   Jul-27-09 07:22 PM   #35 
  - We don't know the final form. Only what committees have let leak.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:31 PM   #41 
  - Madfloridian, I almost always agree with you, but this bill looks like a  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-27-09 08:36 PM   #70 
     - Dean DID speak against the Senate version on Rachel's show tonight.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 09:13 PM   #77 
     - I don't have cable anymore, so I don't see any talking heads shows  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-27-09 09:20 PM   #80 
     - Well, the man they are attacking protesting and calling a liar  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 09:22 PM   #81 
        - It's not about Dean, and it's not about you  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-28-09 09:54 AM   #110 
           - I have been doing just that. So where's the difference?  madfloridian   Jul-28-09 10:53 AM   #113 
     - Madfloridian, you are to be commended for standing up for  suzie   Jul-28-09 10:08 AM   #111 
     - Beautifully said, Lydia Leftcoast. n/t  Laelth   Jul-29-09 10:16 AM   #129 
  - Gee, thanks  prolesunited   Jul-27-09 07:04 PM   #11 
     - You will anyway  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:07 PM   #15 
     - For you, the bills currently under consideration are better than nothing, I admit.  Laelth   Jul-27-09 07:26 PM   #38 
  - Damn all-or-nothing fucks.  BlooInBloo   Jul-27-09 07:03 PM   #9 
  - Fuck all-or-nothing damners  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:06 PM   #13 
     - Without compromise, nothing would get done.  armyowalgreens   Jul-27-09 07:09 PM   #18 
     - This "compromise" crap argument operates on the premise that...  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:13 PM   #24 
        - I never said single-payer is the end of the road.  armyowalgreens   Jul-27-09 07:17 PM   #28 
        - "In turn, you are willing to let others suffer" -- Quite the opposite  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:20 PM   #32 
           - A step towards what?  armyowalgreens   Jul-27-09 07:26 PM   #37 
              - Single-Payer=socialized *insurance*. Have you not heard of socialized health CARE?  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:32 PM   #42 
                 - hmmm yeah I apparently forgot about socialized for some reason.  armyowalgreens   Jul-27-09 07:45 PM   #49 
        - Just curious, if single payer is the "centrist" position  Still Sensible   Jul-27-09 07:18 PM   #30 
           - It is centrist, yes.  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:27 PM   #39 
     - The people who say this is all or nothing are the ones who have successfully "naderized" the issue  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 07:12 PM   #22 
     - I completely agree  Oregone   Jul-27-09 07:17 PM   #29 
     - Blame it on the people who were not invited to the discussions  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 09:32 PM   #83 
        - For the record I agree with you.  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 09:41 PM   #86 
           - I should have added the sarcasm tag....  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 09:46 PM   #87 
              - ok, I thought so, but wasn't sure at first.  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 09:54 PM   #91 
                 - My post is the one that was confusing....  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 09:56 PM   #92 
     - Incrementalism is the only way anything gets done in this country.  anonymous171   Jul-27-09 09:40 PM   #85 
  - Keep those unrecommends coming fast and furious. Don't compare the video  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:10 PM   #19 
  - I rec'd your thread  ipaint   Jul-27-09 07:46 PM   #50 
  - Let's ask for the least we think we can get  Mythsaje   Jul-27-09 07:12 PM   #21 
  - Well, unrecs have taken down from 4.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:13 PM   #25 
  - Why don't they discredit the Republicans or obstructionist Dems?  undeterred   Jul-27-09 07:17 PM   #27 
  - Because they believe Dean co-opted their efforts.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 07:28 PM   #40 
  - They are all politicians.  ipaint   Jul-27-09 07:42 PM   #48 
     - What a convenient fall back argument when someone is speaking truth.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 08:00 PM   #54 
        - And he's shilling for bio firms for a living.  ipaint   Jul-27-09 08:08 PM   #58 
           - Shilling.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 08:11 PM   #60 
              - Thanks for the correction- Shill. n/t.  ipaint   Jul-27-09 08:20 PM   #64 
                 - Dean was just on Rachel's show "shilling" away.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 08:31 PM   #68 
  - They have....people forget...."Make it the Baucus 13"  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:43 PM   #73 
  - Why are people trying to discredit single-payer advocates? ...  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 07:41 PM   #47 
  - Senate HELP amendment on "data exclusivity"  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:03 PM   #55 
  - Thank you. I've been annoyed with Dean ever since he sent out an email calling for signatures...  ContinentalOp   Jul-27-09 08:15 PM   #62 
  - I really do not understand why Dean is trying to confuse the issues...  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:24 PM   #65 
  - If this were an OP  abumbyanyothername   Jul-27-09 08:30 PM   #67 
  - Thank you :))) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:36 PM   #71 
  - This would make an excellent OP  leftstreet   Jul-28-09 12:38 AM   #104 
     - Thanks, maybe later on this evening, although I would prefer to  slipslidingaway   Jul-28-09 12:42 PM   #118 
  - I would love to see HR 676 pass, but it can't even get out of  johnaries   Jul-27-09 07:53 PM   #52 
  - That shows the influence of the For Profit companies, we need people  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:06 PM   #56 
  - Single-payer people need to accept some of the responsibility.  bobbolink   Jul-27-09 08:12 PM   #61 
  - "We should be working together to get the best we can get. "  Uzybone   Jul-27-09 08:26 PM   #66 
  - I don't think there's much difference between single payer and a strong public option  Time for change   Jul-27-09 08:31 PM   #69 
  - Nice comment that gets right to the point.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 08:40 PM   #72 
  - This is what Dean told AHIP when he spoke at their convention...  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 08:54 PM   #74 
     - I'm not sure what your point is  Time for change   Jul-28-09 11:20 AM   #115 
        - That all seems far too pragmatic for the "single-payer" folks.  suzie   Jul-28-09 11:57 AM   #116 
        - That is why I copied your sentence in my reply and posted the  slipslidingaway   Jul-28-09 01:11 PM   #119 
           - Ok, I see what you mean  Time for change   Jul-29-09 02:27 PM   #132 
              - Even before there were any draft plans available Dean was saying  slipslidingaway   Jul-29-09 03:47 PM   #133 
                 - I'm totally with you on the idea of not getting behind plans until we know what they are  Time for change   Jul-29-09 04:38 PM   #134 
                    - Glad to hear that we agree on supporting an unknown plan ...  slipslidingaway   Jul-30-09 09:58 AM   #135 
  - Why aren't these people protesting outside the Capitol?  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-27-09 08:59 PM   #75 
  - They are doing that as well, but Dean has been confusing the terms  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 09:24 PM   #82 
     - Baloney. They did not get arrested because of Dean.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 10:14 PM   #95 
        - What the hell are you talking about, did you read the post I replied  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 11:26 PM   #100 
  - PS Dean spoke out against the Senate again tonight on Rachel.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 09:14 PM   #79 
  - Please stop with the "madfloridian i usually respect you" stuff.  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 09:37 PM   #84 
  - I expected this would happen.  Odin2005   Jul-27-09 09:50 PM   #89 
  - .....  madfloridian   Jul-27-09 11:39 PM   #101 
     - Ugh, people suck!  Odin2005   Jul-28-09 06:50 AM   #106 
     - Doing a good job on this, madfloridian.  suzie   Jul-29-09 08:04 AM   #128 
  - Bill Moyers - Dr. Marcia Angell speaks an inconvenient about our health system that no public plan w  slipslidingaway   Jul-27-09 10:04 PM   #94 
  - Recommended. Dr. Dean should have been named Surgeon General.  Vidar   Jul-27-09 10:39 PM   #96 
  - Rachel Maddow and "shiller" Dean on her show tonight. Video link  madfloridian   Jul-28-09 12:35 AM   #103 
  - These actions from the left are unconscionable and beyond stupid  karynnj   Jul-28-09 08:42 AM   #107 
  - I agree and wrote to DFA about that issue.  madfloridian   Jul-28-09 10:29 AM   #112 
     - thanks - it is great to know that they have heard from someone  karynnj   Jul-28-09 12:03 PM   #117 
  - Didn't you post most of this in another dicsussion a few days ago?????  George II   Jul-28-09 08:43 AM   #108 
  - Just wanted to acknowledge your replies in the thread below...  slipslidingaway   Jul-29-09 01:10 PM   #131 
  - Obama let the genie out of the bottle  disndat   Jul-28-09 09:51 AM   #109 
  - Who are these people and who is funding them?  varelse   Jul-28-09 01:39 PM   #120 
  - Here is their contact page with names.  madfloridian   Jul-28-09 01:46 PM   #121 
  - Perfection is the enemy of the good. Perfect example. nt  mistertrickster   Jul-28-09 02:05 PM   #122 
  - In doing so, they discredit themselves.  mzmolly   Jul-28-09 03:12 PM   #123 
  - Here's a group giving out leaflets and harassing him in Seattle...fake blood smeared on them.  madfloridian   Jul-28-09 05:44 PM   #125 
  - We need to send a copy of this  JNelson6563   Jul-28-09 05:49 PM   #126 
  - If they want single payer, I can tell them in whose shit they should be. (Hint: It Ain't Dr. Dean)  Stinky The Clown   Jul-28-09 05:49 PM   #127 
  - Other Democrats being hassled as well. Part of efforts by these groups?  madfloridian   Jul-31-09 02:19 PM   #136 

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