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Mon Jul-27-09 08:30 PM
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| 88. Yes, it should be outlawed, and I am a smoker. |
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Tobacco has no positive qualities. It is addictive, and addiction means that people don't have a drastically reduced level of choice about whether to continue using it or not. Many people (like myself) will continue smoking as long as it is available, due to the powerful addiction.
The product should be removed from store shelves entirely. There is absolutely no good reason it should remain available.
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| -How many people here think tobacco should be outlawed? |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 04:50 PM |
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As much as I hate smoking, I'm not one of them |
Warpy |
Jul-27-09 04:52 PM |
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I'm against outlawing it-it has great abilities to kill cancer cells, insecticide |
KakistocracyHater |
Jul-27-09 10:11 PM |
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What about fast food? Has nearly the same effects. n/t |
OhioChick |
Jul-27-09 04:53 PM |
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Those second-hand fries are a killer! n/t |
greguganus |
Jul-27-09 04:55 PM |
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"It is a monstrous drain on our health resources...." n/t |
OhioChick |
Jul-27-09 04:56 PM |
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Lame argument |
taught_me_patience |
Jul-27-09 05:02 PM |
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fast food does not pollute other people's air with foul, annoying, and toxic fumes. |
DJ13 |
Jul-27-09 05:13 PM |
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yeah, but those SUV driving their little monsters to the Mickey D's does |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-27-09 05:31 PM |
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Cigarette smoke is much worse than car exhaust |
taught_me_patience |
Jul-27-09 05:44 PM |
#57 |
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From the link: |
SOS |
Jul-27-09 06:52 PM |
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yeah, and there is so MUCH more cigarette smoke than car exhausts in the world |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-28-09 05:42 AM |
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Funny, I just saw a Prius at an Burger King this afternoon. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-27-09 05:59 PM |
#63 |
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*a* prius. As opposed to how many OTHER gas-powered vehicles? |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-28-09 05:43 AM |
#118 |
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Well, they do generate waste |
PVnRT |
Jul-28-09 08:36 AM |
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That too. And all the other corporate toxins. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-27-09 05:58 PM |
#62 |
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My Pet Peeve Besides Soda & Fast, but not Foods |
otohara |
Jul-28-09 12:23 AM |
#115 |
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You had me up until "cheap perfume" |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-28-09 07:52 AM |
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welcome tobacco black market |
G_j |
Jul-27-09 04:53 PM |
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More people will be killed over contraband cigarettes than killed by smoking |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 04:55 PM |
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A tobacco prohibition will make drug gang wars look like Bingo Night at St. Mary's ! |
RagAss |
Jul-27-09 08:00 PM |
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Having been addicted to opiates and to tobacco let me say... |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 09:14 PM |
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I can't fathom watching a baseball game without the tobacco spittin'. n/t |
greguganus |
Jul-27-09 04:54 PM |
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Wow - the nannystate leap of all nannystates |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 04:54 PM |
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I got 'Error you have already Unrec'd this thread' |
The Straight Story |
Jul-27-09 04:57 PM |
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Actually, knowing the types of posts Tim usually puts up... |
eqfan592 |
Jul-27-09 06:01 PM |
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Doesn't it make you want to throw up to see the church ladies on DU? |
RainDog |
Jul-27-09 06:07 PM |
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Word. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-27-09 06:25 PM |
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Do you use the phrase "nanny state" in every thread you find? |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 08:39 PM |
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Nope Bleedin' Heart Democrat |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 09:15 PM |
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That's true, but it's definitely not a cost issue for me. |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 09:35 PM |
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So does alcohol. |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 04:55 PM |
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Oooh lets ban that! And Ammonia, Chlorine.... |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 04:57 PM |
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No. I think people should be required to smoke. |
Morning Dew |
Jul-27-09 04:56 PM |
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I think it should and that's why it shouldn't. |
imdjh |
Jul-27-09 04:56 PM |
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Not me............. |
CrownPrinceBandar |
Jul-27-09 04:56 PM |
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Because prohibition works. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jul-27-09 04:57 PM |
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I am strongly against outlawing tobacco. This would just be an expansion of the War on Drugs. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jul-27-09 04:57 PM |
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I wish you'd have done this as a poll... |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 04:58 PM |
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Nope. I'm as liberal as most, but that is a leap too far. nt |
sutz12 |
Jul-27-09 04:58 PM |
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Probably because "banning" anything is not a liberal position |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 04:59 PM |
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No. But I think it should be banned in all public areas |
taught_me_patience |
Jul-27-09 05:00 PM |
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As a newly minted non-smoker (6 weeks today) |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 05:02 PM |
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self-delete |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 08:43 PM |
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I Go in the Other Direction |
Sensible321 |
Jul-27-09 05:01 PM |
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Welcome do DU! |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 05:10 PM |
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Excellent proposal and/or query. |
kimmerspixelated |
Jul-27-09 05:01 PM |
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Let's just prohibit everything that might be bad for us... |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 05:03 PM |
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I think tobacco, marijuana and alcohol should share an identical status.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-27-09 05:02 PM |
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Because we all know prohibition doesn't affect anyone but users/manufacturers... |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 05:05 PM |
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Did I not say I would prefer legal? |
Fumesucker |
Jul-27-09 05:09 PM |
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Nah... |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 05:15 PM |
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There are three kinds of people.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-27-09 05:19 PM |
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Hell, I must be ALL three kinds at once... LOL n/t |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 05:23 PM |
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I'd prefer tp see politicians banned. They've caused millions of deaths. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-27-09 05:06 PM |
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Consenting adults should have the right to do what they want with their own bodies, even if it's |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-27-09 05:06 PM |
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Oh Yeah... Worked Real Well With Alcohol... |
WillyT |
Jul-27-09 05:07 PM |
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C'mon.. be honest- you're not serious about this, are you? |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-27-09 05:09 PM |
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The biggest challenge is to keep kids from starting, because adults don't take up smoking. |
Ron Green |
Jul-27-09 05:12 PM |
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we should also ban cheese, cars, and Pixie sticks |
provis99 |
Jul-27-09 05:13 PM |
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And those big red wax lips. |
pipi_k |
Jul-27-09 05:33 PM |
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It should only be illegal to sell or give it |
safeinOhio |
Jul-27-09 05:16 PM |
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Let's just outlaw whatever bothers Tim01 |
panader0 |
Jul-27-09 05:19 PM |
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You are kidding, right? |
bbinacan |
Jul-27-09 05:21 PM |
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While emotionally I say, "yes," practically, it is not a good idea. |
Hepburn |
Jul-27-09 05:24 PM |
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personally, I'd like to see the self-appointed tobacco monitors banned. |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-27-09 05:29 PM |
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Should illegal smokers get a fine or imprisonment? |
rucky |
Jul-27-09 05:30 PM |
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Because prohibition was such a success. And the drug war is clearly a success too. |
mamaleah |
Jul-27-09 05:30 PM |
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Outlaw the manufacture and advertising of tobacco products by corporations |
FarCenter |
Jul-27-09 05:33 PM |
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What he said! |
mikeiddy |
Jul-27-09 05:43 PM |
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Ummm, I suppose you've noticed the great success of drug bans so far? |
LeftishBrit |
Jul-27-09 05:33 PM |
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I don't smoke. |
LittleClarkie |
Jul-27-09 05:34 PM |
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It will never happen |
Retired AF Dem |
Jul-27-09 05:35 PM |
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The only place DU should allow smoking is in the Lounge. |
rug |
Jul-27-09 05:35 PM |
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I hotbox the lounge. |
rcrush |
Jul-27-09 05:45 PM |
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So does food, |
bigwillq |
Jul-27-09 05:37 PM |
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oh ffs |
fizzgig |
Jul-27-09 05:43 PM |
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Yes! More prohibition is clearly the answer! |
Iggo |
Jul-27-09 05:44 PM |
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Smoking is the Ultimate Darwin Award. |
timeforpeace |
Jul-27-09 05:54 PM |
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Yes! outlawed and the Big Tobacco executives sentenced to death or hard labor camps for genocide |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-27-09 05:57 PM |
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sounds like arguments for prohibition of alcohol |
RainDog |
Jul-27-09 06:02 PM |
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Tim, I think you've proved an interesting point here. |
eqfan592 |
Jul-27-09 06:06 PM |
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Yes, bookmark it. nt |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 06:09 PM |
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I recall hearing that something over 90% of schizophrenics smoke.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-27-09 06:29 PM |
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Of course it does! Instant dopamine! |
Taverner |
Jul-27-09 07:52 PM |
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Secondhand Smoke Causes Sudden Infant Death Syndrome |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 06:20 PM |
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I'm a smoker who thinks tobacco should be outlawed. |
dorkulon |
Jul-27-09 06:23 PM |
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Yes. |
david13 |
Jul-27-09 06:41 PM |
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Cigarette suspected as house fire cause |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 06:45 PM |
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Did it light itself and then not put itself out? What the hell is wrong with people? |
The Straight Story |
Jul-27-09 06:51 PM |
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Not outlawed but users shouldn't be allowed to join a govt health care plan |
madville |
Jul-27-09 06:50 PM |
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Same with fat people, skiiers, motorcyclists, mountain climbers, |
Mythsaje |
Jul-27-09 07:05 PM |
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Neither should my 5'9 355 lb neighbor !!!!!!! |
RagAss |
Jul-27-09 08:27 PM |
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Yeah, and those damn diabetics too |
PVnRT |
Jul-28-09 08:40 AM |
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oh goodie -- let me guess, you'll also ban EVERY living person who has EVER smoked, right? |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-28-09 10:40 AM |
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Let's do the math... |
SOS |
Jul-27-09 07:10 PM |
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cars, guns... |
dana_b |
Jul-27-09 07:12 PM |
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Cigarette causes house fire, kills 10 people. |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 07:24 PM |
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I'm pretty surprised so many people accept this as the price of freedom. |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 08:03 PM |
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No, not because people "want" to use it. |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 08:32 PM |
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Legal tobacco is not "the price of freedom". |
SOS |
Jul-27-09 11:01 PM |
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Whilst we're at it, let's outlaw air! |
mwooldri |
Jul-27-09 08:11 PM |
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How about assault weapons? They kill less people than tobacco. |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 08:21 PM |
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+1! |
eqfan592 |
Jul-27-09 09:12 PM |
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Yes, it should be outlawed, and I am a smoker. |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 08:30 PM |
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No. (And not just because I'm a smoker) |
proteus_lives |
Jul-27-09 09:14 PM |
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Should we expand the prison industry? |
noamnety |
Jul-27-09 09:26 PM |
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Banning tobacco does not necessarily mean jailing people. |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 09:40 PM |
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I think it should be |
XemaSab |
Jul-27-09 09:38 PM |
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I'll have a jumbo-size tub of |
KamaAina |
Jul-27-09 09:39 PM |
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Dihydrogen monoxide is the second-leading cause of death among children under 15. |
KamaAina |
Jul-27-09 09:45 PM |
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It's called "thinning the herd". |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Jul-27-09 10:01 PM |
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Very progressive attitude there. |
Naturyl |
Jul-27-09 10:24 PM |
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I understand, but |
Tim01 |
Jul-27-09 11:59 PM |
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Yes, and I think beer, wine and liquor should be outlawed, too - |
lynne |
Jul-27-09 10:06 PM |
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The OP is why it is so easy to gin up fear of Government health care. |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-27-09 10:22 PM |
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same with alcohol- and remember what happened when they took that away? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-27-09 11:14 PM |
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Nope. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-27-09 11:17 PM |
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Proudly Unrecommend! |
donheld |
Jul-27-09 11:24 PM |
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Look how successful the Drug War has been |
Mimosa |
Jul-27-09 11:58 PM |
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If the drug war was successful, would you want tobacco banned then? nt |
Tim01 |
Jul-28-09 12:00 AM |
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NO! |
Mimosa |
Jul-29-09 12:21 PM |
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Nope. |
Seldona |
Jul-28-09 12:05 AM |
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It worked so well with alcohol, after all. And see the success with outlawing marijuana! |
Hekate |
Jul-28-09 02:53 AM |
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Yes, so maybe I can stop smoking if I can't buy cigarettes.n/t |
RebelOne |
Jul-28-09 06:11 AM |
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Disclaimer: never smoked cigarettes, but have the occasional stogie |
JHB |
Jul-28-09 08:25 AM |
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Outlawing alcohol worked...everyone stopped drinking right? |
cherish44 |
Jul-28-09 08:31 AM |
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Prohibition created organized crime, and it would work every bit as badly with tobacco. |
Vidar |
Jul-28-09 09:16 AM |
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Nicotine has no positive use at all except for |
jbnow |
Jul-28-09 10:33 AM |
#126 |
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Holy shit, that's incredible. |
Tim01 |
Jul-28-09 10:46 AM |
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It is amazing. In studies of nicotine they use a low dose patch |
jbnow |
Jul-28-09 02:11 PM |
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In public ONLY |
Winterblues |
Jul-28-09 10:58 AM |
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I do. I think tobacco sales should be driven into the hands of organized crime. And our prisons |
Romulox |
Jul-28-09 02:21 PM |
#131 |
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Only if sugar is outlawed. n/t |
Cetacea |
Jul-29-09 12:55 PM |
#133 |
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