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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:56 PM
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91. But, but...
this bill doesn't have a chance of being passed, so why support it at all? We need to compromise to please the blue dogs and republicans or we won't get any type of reform. Blah, blah, blah. I'm so sick of people trying to make these arguments. The majority of our population is behind a health care bill like this, yet our representation in congress is not - the centrists who make these arguments conveniently ignore this fact for reasons beyond me.

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  -Have You Actually READ House Bill HR676? tucsonlib  Jul-26-09 06:11 AM   #0 
  - It has nothing to do with opposing this bill. n/t  Dawgs   Jul-26-09 06:21 AM   #1 
  - "It"? n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 06:24 AM   #2 
  - It?  grahamhgreen   Jul-26-09 10:57 AM   #71 
  - It's opposed because it would kill the profits made by the insurance companies.  drm604   Jul-26-09 06:34 AM   #3 
  - But Who, Besides The Insurance Companies Themselves, Would Give A Shit? n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 06:36 AM   #6 
     - People who are swayed by the ins. cos lying propaganda. n/t  drm604   Jul-26-09 06:37 AM   #7 
     - Here's My Idea:  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 06:49 AM   #11 
     - People are brainwashed into thinking that we have the best system in the world  ejpoeta   Jul-26-09 06:57 AM   #16 
     - That's Why They Need To Read This Bill  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:03 AM   #19 
        - Most of the people that would oppose the bill  CLANG   Jul-26-09 08:02 AM   #37 
        - Like my mother in law...  Dorian Gray   Jul-27-09 06:22 AM   #127 
           - She Wasn't "ranting and ranting" About THIS Bill  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 01:00 PM   #131 
              - She's clueless and doesn't care  Dorian Gray   Jul-27-09 08:10 PM   #138 
                 - I Truly Sympathize  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 10:20 PM   #139 
        - yes they would. i try to impres upon my family every time they go off on  ejpoeta   Jul-27-09 06:58 AM   #128 
     - find a national republican mailing list, the blue dogs mailing lists,  angstlessk   Jul-26-09 07:45 AM   #30 
     - Oh, You Dreamer, You....  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:52 AM   #34 
     - I'm in. In the meantime we can print off the main points and pass them out in our neighborhoods.  Doremus   Jul-26-09 09:10 AM   #60 
     - Americans are demanding single-payer, what they're getting is Obama giving excuses why they can't.  grahamhgreen   Jul-26-09 11:06 AM   #73 
     - .  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 01:44 PM   #84 
     - WTF! Moment  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 01:44 PM   #85 
     - Sadly, some in America have been brainwashed that  truedelphi   Jul-26-09 02:31 PM   #97 
     - And we put a note in there with quotes from Wendell Potter the former CEO of Cigna on what he has  bkkyosemite   Jul-26-09 04:28 PM   #105 
     - Potter was not CEO...  JHB   Jul-27-09 06:58 AM   #129 
     - I have it posted to my website and have sent it out to my mailing list.  earcandle   Jul-26-09 11:40 PM   #122 
     - IE: stupid  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-26-09 09:33 AM   #69 
        - I think that's a bit unfair.  drm604   Jul-26-09 01:36 PM   #81 
           - Then we use their channel to saturate our facts n/t  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 01:45 PM   #86 
           - That's been happening to some extent,  drm604   Jul-26-09 02:05 PM   #92 
              - I was thinking on the level of......  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 02:37 PM   #98 
                 - It's difficult, but I think we have co-opted part of that route.  drm604   Jul-26-09 03:19 PM   #102 
                    - We can also provide our talking point  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 04:45 PM   #106 
                       - Yes, of course  drm604   Jul-26-09 09:34 PM   #113 
           - you are correct  handmade34   Jul-26-09 01:47 PM   #87 
              - brand name  Aragorn   Jul-26-09 03:05 PM   #100 
     - Republicans  Auggie   Jul-26-09 02:16 PM   #94 
     - You Mean The Republican LEADERSHIP, Don't You?  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 01:34 PM   #132 
     - Big Pharma for one.  glinda   Jul-26-09 04:17 PM   #104 
     - Screw 'em. We Outnumber Them A Million To One. n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 01:37 PM   #133 
        - Ya well, we outnumber NRA members and look how that goes.  glinda   Jul-27-09 01:45 PM   #134 
     - The politicians who stand to lose millions in campaign "contributions"  dflprincess   Jul-26-09 07:25 PM   #109 
  - Follow the money. nt  cabluedem   Jul-26-09 06:35 AM   #4 
  - Follow the money. nt  cabluedem   Jul-26-09 06:35 AM   #5 
  - Exactly  ipaint   Jul-26-09 07:19 AM   #23 
     - No Argument. But Then Again...  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:36 AM   #28 
     - I don't.  ipaint   Jul-26-09 08:09 AM   #41 
     - Both of your relies are exactly right.  Greyhound   Jul-26-09 09:20 AM   #64 
     - Then why doesn't he push it - that's what we hired him to do!  grahamhgreen   Jul-26-09 11:07 AM   #74 
     - I'm torn.  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 10:24 PM   #118 
        - re: The President is no less of a politician than anyone else on the Hill.  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 11:24 PM   #120 
     - Jane Harman with $3.2 million  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 01:55 PM   #90 
  - Thanks. I actually had not read the whole thing...  amyrose2712   Jul-26-09 06:38 AM   #8 
  - Whatdja Think? n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 06:50 AM   #12 
  - it's not being opposed  lexanman   Jul-26-09 06:42 AM   #9 
  - The OP was about HR 676, not what they are trying to give us in its place.  mmonk   Jul-26-09 06:46 AM   #10 
  - oh...sorry about that.  lexanman   Jul-26-09 06:51 AM   #14 
     - No problem.  mmonk   Jul-26-09 06:59 AM   #17 
  - Please, Read The Bill. n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 06:51 AM   #15 
  - Most Americans probably don't even know the bill exists. I've known about it for about 2 or 3 years.  Selatius   Jul-26-09 06:51 AM   #13 
  - When I told my Republican father in law of it, he said he would be  mmonk   Jul-26-09 07:11 AM   #21 
     - Agreed. Any Thoughts On Comment #11? n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:15 AM   #22 
        - I agree with the premise that Americans are unaware  mmonk   Jul-26-09 07:53 AM   #35 
  - Insurance company employees who would face potential job loss ?  dipsydoodle   Jul-26-09 07:00 AM   #18 
  - Please, Read The Bill.  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:05 AM   #20 
  - The Bill also makes it clear  dipsydoodle   Jul-26-09 07:55 AM   #36 
  - They have not worried about the employed in other sectors  mmonk   Jul-26-09 08:03 AM   #38 
  - I think it is more the loss of  Patchuli   Jul-26-09 07:33 PM   #111 
  - This is quite possibly the single best, and one of the easiest to read bills  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 07:20 AM   #24 
  - I Couldn't Agree More  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:32 AM   #27 
  - I have no idea how much that much postage costs....  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 07:39 AM   #29 
     - Wouldn't It Be More Like A Third Of That?  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 07:47 AM   #32 
        - I'm an idiot. Thank you.  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 07:50 AM   #33 
           - I Wonder If The Bill's Sponsors Have Even Considered The Idea  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:04 AM   #39 
  - I totally agree  BattyDem   Jul-26-09 01:39 PM   #83 
  - Elizabeth Kucinich on HR 676 and Weiner on the importance  mmonk   Jul-26-09 07:23 AM   #25 
  - Money, corruption, lack of integrity, and lobbyists n/t  newfie11   Jul-26-09 07:23 AM   #26 
  - Thanks for posting this.  fasttense   Jul-26-09 07:46 AM   #31 
  - Why? Because there are people who want it all and they want it all  babylonsister   Jul-26-09 08:07 AM   #40 
  - Those people are not the ones fighting/hiding this legislation. n/t  Greyhound   Jul-26-09 09:25 AM   #67 
  - h.r 676? not perfect? nt  tomp   Jul-27-09 06:09 AM   #126 
  - The republican's want to defeat the bill  dgibby   Jul-26-09 08:09 AM   #42 
  - They Wouldn't Have A Leg To Stand On  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:16 AM   #43 
     - I agree.  dgibby   Jul-26-09 08:52 AM   #55 
  - Some folks commenting haven't bothered to read the bill.  ipaint   Jul-26-09 08:18 AM   #44 
  - Ding Ding Ding!  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 08:20 AM   #46 
  - They Don't Know What They're Missing.  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:20 AM   #47 
  - Can I Get Away With This?  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:26 AM   #48 
     - I was hoping someone would do that. n/t.  ipaint   Jul-26-09 08:28 AM   #50 
     - Easy! Like reading chapter titles and saying you read the whole book!  timeforpeace   Jul-26-09 08:34 AM   #51 
     - Thank you.  drm604   Jul-26-09 09:11 AM   #61 
        - Re: Why can't our representatives get behind this?  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 09:17 AM   #63 
  - Heck, even my DOCTOR loves this bill n/t  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-26-09 08:18 AM   #45 
  - Many do.  mmonk   Jul-26-09 08:27 AM   #49 
  - The main problem I see with this bill  Autumn   Jul-26-09 08:45 AM   #52 
  - OHMIGOD!  drm604   Jul-26-09 09:13 AM   #62 
  - mitch mcconnel and the like are not rational decent human beings  spanone   Jul-26-09 08:49 AM   #53 
  - Sad, But True....  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:51 AM   #54 
  - I have read it and think it is the best bill Congress has written in the last 100 years.  harun   Jul-26-09 08:52 AM   #56 
  - Now it must be made into the best bill Congress has passed in the last 100 years. n/t  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-26-09 08:53 AM   #57 
  - In The Immortal Words Of John Belushi....  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:57 AM   #59 
  - If we had a Congress that represented the people they would. But our  harun   Jul-26-09 02:07 PM   #93 
  - At Least. n/t  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 08:53 AM   #58 
  - K&R. Yes.  Greyhound   Jul-26-09 09:20 AM   #65 
  - Ever hear Republicans turn down medicare, social security, military healthcare?  DemReadingDU   Jul-26-09 09:23 AM   #66 
  - Tomorrow I'll be calling some people.  drm604   Jul-26-09 09:29 AM   #68 
  - A useful brochure to hand out.  mmonk   Jul-26-09 10:43 AM   #70 
  - Thanks for that...nt  and-justice-for-all   Jul-27-09 02:02 PM   #137 
  - Obama should get behing and PUSH SINGLE PAYER! There will be no Repubs voting for  grahamhgreen   Jul-26-09 10:59 AM   #72 
  - He should. He's the person who can make it happen just like LBJ made  Cleita   Jul-26-09 01:19 PM   #77 
  - Too politically impossible. Isn't that enough? n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-26-09 01:13 PM   #75 
  - No.  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 01:51 PM   #135 
  - I have read it and it's the health plan or at least public option that we should have.  Cleita   Jul-26-09 01:17 PM   #76 
  - One problem - never underestimate America's working class  truedelphi   Jul-26-09 01:19 PM   #78 
  - This actually is a symptom of why people resent paying taxes. If everyone was  Cleita   Jul-26-09 01:27 PM   #79 
     - In California, because of illegal immigration, a large percentage of people  truedelphi   Jul-26-09 01:34 PM   #80 
        - It's too bad. It would be a good solution but it's looked upon as  Cleita   Jul-26-09 01:38 PM   #82 
  - Are you trying to imply that Congress wants to pass this bill?  leftstreet   Jul-26-09 01:48 PM   #88 
  - No, I'm Trying To Imply That 99.9% Of Americans Would Want....  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 01:57 PM   #136 
  - Why isn't Obama pushing this?  BattyDem   Jul-26-09 01:54 PM   #89 
  - Because he isn't running for election now and no chance in the Senate? nt  Mithreal   Jul-26-09 02:26 PM   #96 
  - But, but...  Kermitt Gribble   Jul-26-09 01:56 PM   #91 
  - Why would ANY American, left or right, oppose this bill?  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-26-09 02:24 PM   #95 
  - And yet, it's dying in committee. Endless referrals.  johnaries   Jul-26-09 02:42 PM   #99 
  - Single payer is the way.  Laelth   Jul-26-09 03:19 PM   #101 
  - Voters of all political persuasions would be very angry...  RufusTFirefly   Jul-26-09 03:25 PM   #103 
  - phenomenal! What a wonderful world this COULD be if this  Lifelong Protester   Jul-26-09 05:17 PM   #107 
  - read HR 676 here  GinaMaria   Jul-26-09 06:33 PM   #108 
  - I know this is a House bill, but this is what I expected Ted Kennedy to come up with  dflprincess   Jul-26-09 07:31 PM   #110 
  - Rich people would lose (not gain) extraordinary sums of money. That's like air to the rest of us. nt  valerief   Jul-26-09 07:40 PM   #112 
  - Your second question answers all the others.  Naturyl   Jul-26-09 09:38 PM   #114 
  - Then It's Up To Us To Educate Them...  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 10:11 PM   #115 
     - Because O'Reilly and Rush told them so.  Naturyl   Jul-26-09 10:29 PM   #119 
  - I do wish the link went to the bill  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-26-09 10:13 PM   #116 
  - An Oversight On My Part. Here's The Link:  tucsonlib   Jul-26-09 10:19 PM   #117 
     - Thanks!  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-27-09 12:09 AM   #123 
  - If people could realise these benefits:  midnight   Jul-26-09 11:35 PM   #121 
  - thanks for the link. k&r n/t  orleans   Jul-27-09 12:31 AM   #124 
  - thanks for posting & quick question  tomm2thumbs   Jul-27-09 04:26 AM   #125 
     - As Far As I Can Tell -  tucsonlib   Jul-27-09 11:03 AM   #130 
 

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