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287. Well...
Until and unless the police 'police' the police at least as well if not better than they police the general public, why on earth should anyone stop?



Answer that simple question.



Some have said that they serve a higher duty, and while that may be true, they should clearly and without exception be held to a higher standard as well. Thier asses should be under extreme pressure to "get it right" 100 percent of the time, with loss of police career as the consequence for not getting it right. Harsh? Yeah, you bet it is. With power comes responsibility. They wield quite a lot of power, which means they should be held responsible for misusing it. ALL OF THEM. EVERY LAST ONE.

Currently, what we have is the point that THAT is farthest from, with few exceptions.


No they aren't all bad, but I would bet large sums of money, that those who have NEVER lied in the course of duty, hassled people - particularly kids, or abused thier power in some way - AKA clean cops - would be in single digit percentages, perhaps slightly higher.
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  -Generalized Police Bashing Needs to Stop MrBig  Jul-25-09 07:23 PM   #0 
  - Fuck cops.  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 07:25 PM   #1 
  - Yes, fuck'em  izquierdista   Jul-25-09 07:46 PM   #25 
  - Sounds more than reasonable to me. n/t  Fire1   Jul-25-09 09:32 PM   #164 
  - Like that "outstanding" racist officer that gets to visit the White House and have a beer with Obama  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-25-09 07:48 PM   #28 
  - Apparently if you're a pig and you whine on national television you get to  Raineyb   Jul-25-09 08:23 PM   #102 
  - There is this cute one that does traffic in the mornings  HughMoran   Jul-25-09 07:59 PM   #50 
  - This.  liquid diamond   Jul-25-09 08:19 PM   #96 
  - Except when you need one.  emilyg   Jul-25-09 08:43 PM   #120 
  - Fish and bicycles?  GoneOffShore   Jul-25-09 08:56 PM   #134 
     - That has not been my experience.  emilyg   Jul-25-09 11:08 PM   #189 
  - Well, people-in-uniform ARE pretty damn hot, so yes. Fuck cops.  DRoseDARs   Jul-25-09 11:00 PM   #186 
  - I notice that you didn't elaborate after that brilliant headline.  enzymatic   Jul-26-09 10:05 AM   #256 
  - +1  Fire1   Jul-26-09 06:11 PM   #284 
  - We have 1st Amendment rights on DU, in case you hadn't noticed in  kestrel91316   Jul-25-09 07:26 PM   #2 
  - Right back at you  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:35 PM   #11 
  - oh bullshit  TorchTheWitch   Jul-25-09 07:54 PM   #37 
  - agreed  bridgit   Jul-25-09 08:26 PM   #106 
  - This is not bigotry.  mix   Jul-25-09 08:55 PM   #132 
     - "generalized statements against..." is BY DEFINITION BIGOTRY  PurityOfEssence   Jul-25-09 09:24 PM   #155 
        - Your use of bigotry is meant to inflame. And it is not accurate.  mix   Jul-25-09 09:30 PM   #161 
        - It is within our rights, you are correct  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:37 PM   #171 
        - Someone elsewhere told you to look for the humanity  mix   Jul-25-09 09:40 PM   #173 
        - You don't believe its the best course of action  Hutzpa   Jul-25-09 10:58 PM   #185 
           - Making generalized statements  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:40 AM   #204 
              - Your argument makes sense  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 01:14 PM   #277 
        - But this is, by definition, BIGOTRY.  PurityOfEssence   Jul-26-09 12:06 AM   #194 
           - (shrug) I hate rapists. I guess I'm a bigot. So be it.  BlooInBloo   Jul-26-09 12:26 AM   #201 
              - Everyone I've ever met has some prejudices, no matter how mild  PurityOfEssence   Jul-26-09 04:52 AM   #232 
        - Like hell. If that were true, we'd ALL be bigots.  Lyric   Jul-26-09 10:09 AM   #260 
  - No we don't, there's plenty that censored on here  tammywammy   Jul-25-09 08:44 PM   #121 
  - The irony is delicious: in one breath you managed to bleat about free speech  enzymatic   Jul-26-09 10:06 AM   #257 
  - Generalized police worship needs to stop  tj2001   Jul-25-09 07:27 PM   #3 
  - there are studies supporting this...  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 07:32 PM   #7 
  - This is a logical post  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:38 PM   #16 
     - a few links...  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 08:10 PM   #75 
        - Thanks!  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #81 
           - don't just thank me...  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 08:23 PM   #101 
              - Point well taken  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:55 PM   #131 
              - perhaps "fuck cops"  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 09:04 PM   #144 
                 - Maybe I expect more from people on this board?  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:23 PM   #152 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-09 09:30 PM   #159 
                    - what's not progressive...  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 09:30 PM   #160 
                       - Questioning authority...  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:32 PM   #165 
                          - no one said that.  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 09:37 PM   #170 
                             - Racial profiling IS a problem  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:39 PM   #172 
                                - what generalized statements...?  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 09:49 PM   #175 
                                   - There was one thread  MrBig   Jul-25-09 10:01 PM   #177 
                                      - then why not address it in the specific thread....?  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 10:03 PM   #179 
                                         - The thread was an example  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:42 AM   #206 
              - I respectfully disagree.  dddem   Jul-26-09 09:30 AM   #244 
                 - you don't see the difference...  bliss_eternal   Jul-26-09 06:04 PM   #282 
  - EXACTLY  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:39 PM   #17 
  - The problem is that the "good" cops ENABLE the assholes.  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:00 PM   #56 
     - sometimes they are afraid....  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 08:16 PM   #91 
  - Amen.  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 08:24 PM   #103 
  - Cops are one of DU favorite groups to attack.  LostInAnomie   Jul-25-09 07:31 PM   #4 
  - You haven't been following this discussion, have you?  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 07:36 PM   #15 
  - It's the same conversation that always takes place when a cop makes the news.  LostInAnomie   Jul-25-09 07:45 PM   #22 
     - Yes, you missed the part where we discussed the issues  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #79 
     - LOL!  LostInAnomie   Jul-25-09 08:27 PM   #109 
        - She's been here a year longer than you  me b zola   Jul-26-09 12:56 AM   #214 
           - Might want to check your math again.  LostInAnomie   Jul-26-09 01:26 AM   #216 
              - You're using some of that special math: "You're either with us or you're against us"  me b zola   Jul-26-09 01:51 AM   #222 
                 - Wanting police to behave more respectively is one thing...  LostInAnomie   Jul-26-09 02:12 AM   #225 
                    - You have a problem with what I said?  Raineyb   Jul-26-09 10:44 AM   #262 
     - There is something different about this one.  merh   Jul-26-09 01:39 AM   #219 
        - Good, someone with a law enforcement background.  LostInAnomie   Jul-26-09 02:36 AM   #226 
           - This discussion has taken place on DU.  merh   Jul-26-09 03:27 AM   #228 
           - Excellent post! It was, in fact, Sgt. Crowley who broke the law...  Spazito   Jul-26-09 10:00 AM   #254 
           - Thank you for the information.  merh   Jul-26-09 10:08 AM   #259 
              - It was another poster, Gothmog, who originally pointed this out in his OP..  Spazito   Jul-26-09 10:34 AM   #261 
                 - Oh, believe me, I understand.  merh   Jul-26-09 11:09 AM   #264 
                    - Yes, it has been fascinating to watch that when actual facts are..  Spazito   Jul-26-09 11:15 AM   #265 
                       - I hope you included what SCOTUS and the Mass Courts have had to  merh   Jul-26-09 11:24 AM   #267 
                          - I am already blowing the dust off it, rofl!  Spazito   Jul-26-09 11:28 AM   #268 
                             - I'm still laughing at the first reply posted in your new thread.  merh   Jul-26-09 11:30 AM   #269 
                                - LOL, me too!  Spazito   Jul-26-09 11:38 AM   #271 
                                   - Did you read Gates' attorney's initial statement?  merh   Jul-26-09 11:43 AM   #272 
                                      - I keep asking myself, why did Sgt. Crowley deliberately ignore...  Spazito   Jul-26-09 12:39 PM   #275 
           - I was hoping you'd post something like this for us civilians.  EFerrari   Jul-26-09 06:04 PM   #283 
              - lol - you are too kind  merh   Jul-26-09 09:18 PM   #288 
           - Your defense of the professionals that defend Gates makes little  merh   Jul-26-09 03:38 AM   #229 
              - I can think of numerous reasons for the unions to back Crowley.  LostInAnomie   Jul-26-09 04:12 AM   #230 
                 - You and I are commenting on the case without all the facts.  merh   Jul-26-09 08:54 AM   #242 
                    - "I would guess the the President has been harassed by the police just because of his skin color..."  dysfunctional press   Jul-26-09 09:52 AM   #249 
  - Cops defend their own, even when they're obviously in the wrong...  Mythsaje   Jul-25-09 07:53 PM   #35 
  - police worship needs to stop  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 07:31 PM   #5 
  - I second that.  rollingrock   Jul-25-09 07:55 PM   #42 
  - From WHERE are you  polmaven   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #80 
     - The president has said Gates has accepted  rollingrock   Jul-25-09 08:18 PM   #93 
        - Listen to what the president said, please...  polmaven   Jul-26-09 07:36 AM   #236 
  - The use of the fallacy of the excluded middle needs to stop. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-25-09 08:39 PM   #119 
     - Yeah, I remember when I read my first philosophy book, too!  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:59 PM   #141 
        - Then why'd you bring up police worship?  Posteritatis   Jul-25-09 09:10 PM   #147 
           - DUH! Did you read the title of the thread?  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 09:13 PM   #148 
              - There is a difference  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:25 PM   #156 
              - Welcome to DU!  Robb   Jul-26-09 10:08 AM   #258 
  - Yeah, OK  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-25-09 07:32 PM   #6 
  - It's not about hate, it's about our survival as a democracy instead of a police state.  baldguy   Jul-25-09 07:32 PM   #8 
  - GOP Worship needs to cease....We tried it under Bush/Cheney/Rummy  opihimoimoi   Jul-25-09 07:33 PM   # 
  - Every cop I've run into has been a major dick.  sea four   Jul-25-09 07:33 PM   # 
  - This is different  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:42 PM   #20 
  - HEY! You know what?  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 07:58 PM   # 
     - Hahaha, wow  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:06 PM   #69 
        - I'm glad you like my assumptions.  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 08:20 PM   #97 
           - Can you provide the evidence you claim exists???  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:25 PM   #105 
              - Hey, YOU are the one telling us what we "NEED" to do.  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 08:38 PM   #118 
                 - No doubt your stories are true  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:49 PM   #126 
                    - I'm not the one splitting society apart, buddy.  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 08:58 PM   #138 
                       - It's not about giving them a pass  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:24 PM   #154 
                          - Depends on whether you have a level playing field or not.  Th1onein   Jul-26-09 12:38 PM   #274 
  - Change "dick" to "jerk" and you'll be fine.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 07:53 PM   #36 
  - Well there's private dicks and public dicks.  omega minimo   Jul-26-09 12:23 AM   #199 
  - I happen to have several friends  polmaven   Jul-25-09 08:19 PM   #95 
  - DU Authoritarians untie!  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 07:33 PM   #9 
  - We MUST, We must, We must increase our Bust!!!  omega minimo   Jul-25-09 07:47 PM   #26 
  - Disagree or not...  proteus_lives   Jul-26-09 12:10 AM   #196 
  - Untie what?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-25-09 07:49 PM   #30 
  - Your shoe? The knot looks a little loose...needs to be redone  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:03 PM   #61 
     - I use double knots they are fine.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-25-09 08:09 PM   #73 
        - New Studies show double knots not as reliable as once thought  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:13 PM   #84 
           - Mine have always held very well. I'll keep an eye on them though.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-25-09 08:15 PM   # 
              - bah hahaha. i loved this subthread in oh so serious. thanks guys. nt oh  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:45 PM   #122 
                 - You are welcome. Silly to always be so serious.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-25-09 08:54 PM   #129 
  - lol. . .  annabanana   Jul-25-09 08:16 PM   #89 
  - I would love to be able to not bash cops because there are many good ones  GoneOffShore   Jul-25-09 07:34 PM   #10 
  - Nice try. Be aware that a lot of people who agree may not reply.  godai   Jul-25-09 07:35 PM   #12 
  - LOL! You poor, poor things.  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 07:39 PM   #18 
  - No Doubt  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:45 PM   #21 
  - I'll reply. I never  emilyg   Jul-25-09 08:46 PM   #125 
  - If I'm treated well I respond well  sandnsea   Jul-25-09 07:35 PM   #13 
  - Yup, the dreaded most  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:47 PM   #27 
     - Excuse me? Police Reports??  sandnsea   Jul-25-09 07:58 PM   #49 
        - I take police reports very seriously  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:15 PM   #86 
           - Police Reports, 3 Cops statements,  sandnsea   Jul-25-09 08:51 PM   #128 
           - I can draw conclusions  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:56 PM   #133 
              - In my humble opinion,  dddem   Jul-26-09 09:47 AM   #246 
           - Pardon my interruption  Hutzpa   Jul-26-09 12:05 AM   #193 
              - Very true n/t  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:43 AM   #207 
  - While there are plenty of good cops out there, there are also lots of bad ones too  47of74   Jul-25-09 07:36 PM   #14 
  - I think that there are a lot of cops with poor social skills  undeterred   Jul-25-09 07:40 PM   #19 
  - Again, there is a difference  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:48 PM   #29 
  - I agree with the points in your OP.  JohnnyLib2   Jul-25-09 07:46 PM   #23 
  - If you're calling personal stories of racial profiling "cop bashing" you're way out of line  omega minimo   Jul-25-09 07:46 PM   #24 
  - I'm not saying that  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:52 PM   #34 
     - Well some of those may be nimrods. Welcome to DU. Or it may be their experience.  omega minimo   Jul-25-09 07:59 PM   #53 
     - That would be interesting  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:16 PM   #90 
        - and how it's affected police perception of police officers.  omega minimo   Jul-25-09 08:23 PM   #100 
     - but in studying the culture...  bliss_eternal   Jul-25-09 08:35 PM   #117 
  - There is a small but vocal group of cop haters here.  MrSlayer   Jul-25-09 07:50 PM   #31 
  - I've not noticed it being a small group  TorchTheWitch   Jul-25-09 07:56 PM   #43 
  - How about "Bad Cop Haters?"  Mythsaje   Jul-25-09 08:03 PM   #63 
  - how about many of us not even hating cops. how about we see a huge problem getting bigger  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:09 PM   #74 
  - Oh, I definitely don't hate all police...  Mythsaje   Jul-25-09 07:51 PM   #32 
  - I agree  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:55 PM   #41 
  - No, not any worse either, but they don't have any right to  CakeGrrl   Jul-25-09 08:09 PM   #72 
  - i blame the higher ups. i see the higher ups the ones responsible for the problem  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:13 PM   #82 
  - I agree (n/t)  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:17 PM   #92 
  - "Cops aren't any worse than the rest of us. "  varelse   Jul-25-09 08:57 PM   #137 
  - right on. peace brother. and THIS, is not cop bashing. this is saying where the issue is  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 07:56 PM   #44 
  - I agree with your assessment  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:19 PM   #94 
     - we dont. we pretend it isnt there. and then to shut us up or not listen label "cop hater"  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:25 PM   #104 
        - I don't say cop haters  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:31 PM   #114 
           - your right and as i typed that actually flashed thru brain, you didnt say it. but  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:33 PM   #116 
              - You are correct  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:57 PM   #135 
  - That should be its own thread  sandnsea   Jul-25-09 08:00 PM   #55 
     - It might be...  Mythsaje   Jul-25-09 08:02 PM   #60 
  - seriously asking.... what does it mean, all the problems we are having with police and  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 07:52 PM   #33 
  - The problems  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:57 PM   #46 
     - do you THINK all this is about crowley. do you THINK the animosity is just about this event.  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:03 PM   #62 
        - I don't think this is about Crowley  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:22 PM   #98 
           - breath out... lol. cause no one will listen. labeled cop hater, or your post, just a few  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:27 PM   #107 
              - It's this dialogue that I was looking for  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:30 PM   #162 
                 - the bottom line though, for me and for my boys, is i want to be able to support the police again  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 09:33 PM   #166 
                    - No doubt  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:43 PM   #174 
  - Shit. Another forum hall monitor.  TahitiNut   Jul-25-09 07:54 PM   #38 
  - Nope  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:58 PM   #48 
  - The authoritarian pig-lovers need to STFU!!!  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 07:54 PM   #39 
  - Yup...  MrBig   Jul-25-09 07:59 PM   #52 
  - Wow, stupid analogy.  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:05 PM   #66 
  - How so???  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:10 PM   #76 
     - Policing is both a important civil necessity and a profession. Islam is a religion.  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:29 PM   #112 
        - While your inherent power point is well taken  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:01 PM   #142 
           - They need to have the idea constantly reinforced that they serve us, not the other way around.  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 10:27 PM   #180 
              - It's done more than you think  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:45 AM   #208 
  - Wow, great analogy. n/t  godai   Jul-25-09 08:13 PM   #83 
  - If you believe that concentrated authority always corrupts a person  Telly Savalas   Jul-25-09 08:58 PM   #139 
  - Is a good cop who covers for or tolerates a bad cop really a good cop?  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 07:54 PM   #40 
  - Of course not. That's why there are virtually no good cops.  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 07:57 PM   #45 
  - Where's the proof?  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:01 PM   #58 
     - right here shuts the reasonable people down. the anger grows and fester. right here  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:04 PM   #65 
     - I agree, the blue wall of silence works. As long as that's in place, they all get blamed....  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 08:05 PM   #67 
     - Some are on the side of the public  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #78 
        - I agree that there are a lot more cops who passively allow other cops to commit crimes...  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 08:14 PM   #85 
        - every police that read crowelys report knew he lead gates out of house to arrest him  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 08:16 PM   #88 
        - Again, your comments are inaccurate.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:55 PM   #130 
           - Partially correct  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:03 PM   #143 
              - You don't believe it because you cannot admit that your opinion is just that.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 09:10 PM   #146 
                 - Where have I refused to accept that???  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:28 PM   #157 
     - Joseph Wambaugh, former policeman/author: "All cops lie to make cases."  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:10 PM   #77 
        - It is absolutely true.  DefenseLawyer   Jul-25-09 08:32 PM   #115 
           - Yes, it is. As you say, only video can prove they lied.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:46 PM   #123 
  - this is what i ask too.... n/t  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 07:57 PM   #47 
  - No.  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 07:59 PM   #51 
  - Not at all  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:00 PM   #54 
     - Then show us the cops who are blowing the whistle on the bad ones..  Fumesucker   Jul-25-09 08:15 PM   #87 
     - Yes, there is proof. The JURY in this matter is the public.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:27 PM   #108 
        - You are correct - that is proof  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:59 PM   #140 
           - A bad cop can commit a good deed. That doesn't erase the bad conduct.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 09:18 PM   #150 
              - I would disagree  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:36 PM   #167 
  - When cops stop terrorizing people, and covering for cops who terrorize - then I'll stop bashing them  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 08:01 PM   #57 
  - Oh thanks  DefenseLawyer   Jul-25-09 08:01 PM   #59 
  - You seem to assume  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:09 PM   #71 
  - Cops are great guys.  asdjrocky   Jul-25-09 08:04 PM   #64 
  - You'll see some of the same sort of things about military, and then  Obamanaut   Jul-25-09 08:05 PM   #68 
  - It seems bashing police is a DU value that I hope doesn't represent most progressives  stray cat   Jul-25-09 08:06 PM   #70 
  - Constant excuse making for police needs to stop!  Raineyb   Jul-25-09 08:22 PM   #99 
  - You're fighting a losing battle.  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-25-09 08:28 PM   #110 
  - I've learned people whose lips are glued to cops' asses tighter than a drum  cboy4   Jul-25-09 08:28 PM   #111 
  - Admins had a good idea when they first showed the total unrec count.  lpbk2713   Jul-25-09 08:30 PM   #113 
  - I agree (n/t)  MrBig   Jul-25-09 08:46 PM   #124 
  - It can represent a disinclination toward civil mediation and the RW machine has already...  bridgit   Jul-25-09 08:50 PM   #127 
  - Good cops cover for bad cops...  Iggo   Jul-25-09 08:57 PM   #136 
  - You hit the nail on the head!!!  goddess40   Jul-25-09 09:20 PM   #151 
  - I won't even bother to read the responses. The -Recs pretty much reflects the DU attitude  elocs   Jul-25-09 09:07 PM   #145 
  - I expected as much  MrBig   Jul-25-09 09:29 PM   #158 
  - cops can be terrifing bullies, but we must not forget who they work for  G_j   Jul-25-09 09:16 PM   #149 
  - When I see OTHER law enforcement members condemming  ThoughtCriminal   Jul-25-09 09:24 PM   #153 
  - Their unions seem to be run by bullies and thugs  tj2001   Jul-25-09 09:31 PM   #163 
  - cool. we are recognizing a problem. so better to say a truth than pretend there isnt a problem  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 09:36 PM   #168 
     - And what makes it worse  MrBig   Jul-25-09 10:03 PM   #178 
  - Precisely.  merh   Jul-26-09 01:41 AM   #220 
  - I have no real respect for any cop.  WeDidIt   Jul-25-09 09:37 PM   #169 
  - You seem pretty reasonable. Maybe this isn't the right place for you. nt  Tim01   Jul-25-09 09:53 PM   #176 
  - Thank you. I had my own experience with "profiling" about 10 years ago.  DRoseDARs   Jul-25-09 10:50 PM   #181 
  - That was good, up to the point where you started whining about reverse racism.  BlooInBloo   Jul-25-09 10:52 PM   #182 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-09 10:57 PM   #184 
     - That was good, I defend myself against your ridiculous charge and a mod deletes it without cause.  DRoseDARs   Jul-26-09 08:48 AM   #240 
  - I know two decent cops  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-25-09 10:53 PM   #183 
  - it really isn't very progressive to generalize all cop haters/bashers...  dysfunctional press   Jul-25-09 11:00 PM   #187 
  - Show me where I did  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:47 AM   #209 
     - look for yourself...  dysfunctional press   Jul-26-09 01:20 AM   #215 
  - Why? Does it infringe on their rights in some manner?  Starry Messenger   Jul-25-09 11:04 PM   #188 
  - People badmouth teachers?  Tim01   Jul-25-09 11:31 PM   #191 
  - future prisoners?  lexanman   Jul-26-09 04:22 AM   #231 
  - No, that's how I view the students who will end up in prison.  Tim01   Jul-26-09 08:06 AM   #238 
     - who said they would be lawyers or doctors?  lexanman   Jul-26-09 08:23 AM   #239 
        - I followed up on one of the students.  Tim01   Jul-26-09 11:32 AM   #270 
  - Future prisoners?  Raineyb   Jul-26-09 07:37 AM   #237 
  - No rights infringed...  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:55 AM   #211 
     - law enforcement has excellent PR.  Starry Messenger   Jul-26-09 01:30 AM   #217 
  - Watch this short video: typical police mentality.  Xicano   Jul-25-09 11:13 PM   #190 
  - One should never yell theater in a crowded fire!  obliviously   Jul-25-09 11:37 PM   #192 
  - I have had good and bad experiences with cops  Jennicut   Jul-26-09 12:09 AM   #195 
  - Why not you generalize Felons  Wolf-Were   Jul-26-09 12:13 AM   #197 
  - Where have I generalized felons?  MrBig   Jul-26-09 12:55 AM   #212 
     - All police generalize felons.  Wolf-Were   Jul-26-09 02:11 PM   #280 
  - Anyone who judges an entire group is a hypocrite and not a liberal.  proteus_lives   Jul-26-09 12:18 AM   #198 
  - Yup. People who generalize by hating nazis, hating rapists, etc. They're all just like freepers.  BlooInBloo   Jul-26-09 12:25 AM   #200 
     - As usual, you fail.  proteus_lives   Jul-26-09 12:33 AM   #202 
        - hahahah!  BlooInBloo   Jul-26-09 12:34 AM   #203 
           - business as usual with you  proteus_lives   Jul-26-09 12:41 AM   #205 
              - I think the saying goes  Dreamer Tatum   Jul-26-09 12:53 AM   #210 
                 - You're right.  proteus_lives   Jul-26-09 01:43 AM   #221 
  - Yes, use the law and the Constitution to prove who is right.  Life Long Dem   Jul-26-09 12:56 AM   #213 
  - Thank you for a sensible, reasonable post, and welcome to DU.  Quantess   Jul-26-09 01:32 AM   #218 
  - I will add this  lexanman   Jul-26-09 01:54 AM   #223 
  - No, it needs to increase and spread to the point that the status quo can no longer stand.  Greyhound   Jul-26-09 01:54 AM   #224 
  - I always try to show respect to the police - but I don't trust them  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-26-09 02:58 AM   #227 
  - police abuse of authority is systemic, not an aberration. as are the attempts to cover up  KG   Jul-26-09 05:26 AM   #233 
  - My apologies to the 40% of cops that don't deserve to be bashed.  Vidar   Jul-26-09 07:09 AM   #234 
  - I agree mate  erasmia   Jul-26-09 07:20 AM   #235 
  - This is a matter of public preception.  rucky   Jul-26-09 08:50 AM   #241 
  - I think that you are generalizing  merh   Jul-26-09 09:20 AM   #243 
  - I can not even imagine a cop being a Dem and much less a progressive.  L0oniX   Jul-26-09 09:38 AM   #245 
  - I know several of them.  bigwillq   Jul-26-09 09:51 AM   #247 
  - I think you are making a broad judgement about my broad judgement.  L0oniX   Jul-26-09 09:55 AM   #250 
     - That's what I got out of your post.  bigwillq   Jul-26-09 09:56 AM   #252 
  - "Democrats = the party of the ACLU; Republicans = the party of cops"  tj2001   Jul-26-09 09:57 AM   #253 
  - "Hopefully we can have better discourse on the subject than has been seen recently."  Curtland1015   Jul-26-09 09:51 AM   #248 
  - yes, i did see all posters defending cop with this attitude, no talking just rolling eyes, BUT  seabeyond   Jul-26-09 09:55 AM   #251 
  - K&R. For what it's worth.  Robb   Jul-26-09 10:04 AM   #255 
  - I have a simple practice when I read a  whistler162   Jul-26-09 10:52 AM   #263 
  - So sadly true.  JohnnyLib2   Jul-26-09 11:52 AM   #273 
  - There are some great cops! But we live in a police state - that aint no good for either party.  grahamhgreen   Jul-26-09 11:16 AM   #266 
  - Generalized police bashing of citizens' heads needs to stop.  Flaneur   Jul-26-09 12:50 PM   #276 
  - In my dealings with police,  PatSeg   Jul-26-09 01:35 PM   #278 
  - Well, the *over-generalized* cop bashing, certainly.  Orsino   Jul-26-09 01:50 PM   #279 
  - Why? The cops always see non cops as the enemy  Taverner   Jul-26-09 02:14 PM   #281 
  - Belated Welcome to DU!  Strong Atheist   Jul-26-09 06:20 PM   #285 
  - Agreed. Cops are PEOPLE. This is *almost* as bad as racism.  johnaries   Jul-26-09 07:15 PM   #286 
  - Well...  beevul   Jul-26-09 07:42 PM   #287 
  - You're demanding that free speech re police enforcement be curtailed?????  defendandprotect   Jul-26-09 09:30 PM   #289 
 

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