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| 62. This would make a great movie! |
| -Smedley Butler Stopped American Fascist Conspiracy to Overthrow FDR |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 05:37 PM |
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Smedley Butler was one of America's greatest patriots |
MrScorpio |
Jul-25-09 05:39 PM |
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That's why the Wall Street fascists chose him. |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 05:58 PM |
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Wow, why am I not surprised that Al Smith and John Raskob were involved? |
Odin2005 |
Jul-25-09 08:13 PM |
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Wasn't Prescott Bush also among them? |
bobbolink |
Jul-25-09 08:51 PM |
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Prescott Bush, Goodyear Tire, Heinz, DuPont, Birds' Eye, Maxwell House... |
troubledamerican |
Jul-25-09 09:00 PM |
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Prescott was central to the plot - he was chosen to be the chief liaison with Hitler's Germany |
leveymg |
Jul-26-09 07:29 AM |
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There's another side to this story - how Allen Dulles and friends moved Nazi gold out of Europe |
leveymg |
Jul-26-09 07:50 AM |
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Dr. Mengele financed operations with illegal drugs from his South American redoubt |
Octafish |
Jul-26-09 10:12 AM |
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I think you and Leveymg should collaborate on a book |
bear425 |
Jul-26-09 11:45 AM |
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And an honor and pleasure |
leveymg |
Jul-26-09 12:34 PM |
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Had dinner last year w Edwin Black, author of "IBM and the Holocaust" |
mod mom |
Jul-26-09 10:07 AM |
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They've been trying ever since to control America's economy through deregulation of their activities |
bjobotts |
Jul-26-09 02:08 PM |
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Using an army of lobbyists rather than marines and dollars rather than guns to make a fascist corpo |
bjobotts |
Jul-26-09 02:09 PM |
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Wow! What was Mr. Black like? |
Octafish |
Jul-27-09 07:02 PM |
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Yep. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jul-26-09 01:44 AM |
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K&R (note: Seize not Sieze) nt |
valerief |
Jul-25-09 05:41 PM |
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My bad! LOL! It's from the original source... |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 06:01 PM |
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Not much of a warrior, tho..... |
Bigmack |
Jul-25-09 05:43 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-25-09 06:08 PM |
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most of those awards were for killing brown folks |
Thothmes |
Jul-25-09 06:24 PM |
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That why he wrote... War is a Racket.... |
Bigmack |
Jul-25-09 08:25 PM |
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He was actually nominated for the medal of honor three times! |
cascadiance |
Jul-26-09 02:04 AM |
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K&R |
redqueen |
Jul-25-09 05:52 PM |
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Gen. Butler was a real maverick. |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 06:14 PM |
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A true Hero, indeed. |
redqueen |
Jul-25-09 06:37 PM |
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Wait, they fired him because he insulted Benito fucking Mussolini? |
anonymous171 |
Jul-26-09 01:46 AM |
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The real heroes rarely make it into the history books. Thank you for your service Octafish |
glitch |
Jul-25-09 05:57 PM |
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You're welcome, glitch. The Nuevo Reich wants to bury the lessons of the past... |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 06:20 PM |
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I am reminded of a quote: |
Odin2005 |
Jul-25-09 08:19 PM |
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A man who is entirely, unforgivably too obscure |
Posteritatis |
Jul-25-09 06:18 PM |
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What would the students say when they learned about Butler? |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 07:32 PM |
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Well, they were freshman classes, so the bar was set with a shovel |
Posteritatis |
Jul-25-09 08:26 PM |
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I have political science professors who have not heard of Smedley Butler. |
OnyxCollie |
Jul-25-09 11:29 PM |
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college history and Butler |
blackbird13 |
Jul-27-09 08:49 AM |
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K&R....and don't forget the involvement of George W Bush's grandfather... |
AntiFascist |
Jul-25-09 07:12 PM |
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Watch this BBC documentary on Prescott Bush's involvement in this... |
cascadiance |
Jul-25-09 07:22 PM |
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Prescott Bush also helped bring Nixon into power... |
AntiFascist |
Jul-25-09 07:36 PM |
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J Edgar Hoover ''watched'' over Butler. |
Octafish |
Jul-25-09 07:55 PM |
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This explains much about the earliest connections between... |
AntiFascist |
Jul-25-09 08:31 PM |
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Thanks! I knew Prescott Bush was in there somewhere..... |
bobbolink |
Jul-25-09 08:55 PM |
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K&R |
Uzybone |
Jul-25-09 07:14 PM |
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As Thom Hartmann would note this is a symptom of our textbooks being censored by Texas school system |
cascadiance |
Jul-25-09 07:36 PM |
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some of my older family would note that Texas Republicans |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-26-09 07:41 AM |
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Reminds me of when Republicans complain about "rewriting history." |
Beartracks |
Jul-26-09 12:58 AM |
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K&R |
conscious evolution |
Jul-25-09 07:28 PM |
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"War is a Racket" is required reading. |
Naturyl |
Jul-25-09 07:40 PM |
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That's something they will never teach you in history class |
Odin2005 |
Jul-25-09 08:10 PM |
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Thank you for all you do to shine a light on scrubbed history. |
bleever |
Jul-25-09 08:45 PM |
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The Plot To Overthrow FDR -- dvd |
bobbolink |
Jul-25-09 08:49 PM |
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Butler rocks |
ellie |
Jul-25-09 08:57 PM |
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K&R. JFK could have done with a few Butlers on his Secrete Service detail! n/t |
ControlledDemolition |
Jul-25-09 09:17 PM |
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Oh yeah. |
Octafish |
Jul-27-09 07:08 PM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Jul-25-09 09:17 PM |
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I wonder who our next Smedley Butler is going to be? |
santamargarita |
Jul-25-09 09:32 PM |
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Perhaps they were afraid Pat Tillman would have been one... |
cascadiance |
Jul-25-09 09:45 PM |
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He or she knows they are being watched. |
Octafish |
Jul-26-09 09:55 AM |
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If they'd succeeded, I wonder who's side we would've been on in WW2? |
Marr |
Jul-25-09 09:36 PM |
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And what if Al Smith had become president instead of FDR? |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-26-09 03:11 PM |
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My grandparents knew Smedley Butler. |
begin_within |
Jul-25-09 11:36 PM |
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Don't ever throw out the letters whether or not there are any between your parents and Butler. |
peacetalksforall |
Jul-26-09 09:48 AM |
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You're so right. My stepmother threw out a lot of my stuff, |
begin_within |
Jul-26-09 11:16 AM |
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Rest in peace wherever you are Smedley Butler |
sasquatch |
Jul-26-09 12:19 AM |
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Great report Octafish |
MagickMuffin |
Jul-26-09 12:27 AM |
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Smedley Butler, Meet John Perkins |
Octafish |
Jul-27-09 07:24 PM |
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K&R nt |
Mithreal |
Jul-26-09 01:38 AM |
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Fucking republicans are preaching the same exact socialism bullshit about Public Option health care. |
LaPera |
Jul-26-09 01:55 AM |
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I'm glad you pointed this out, |
Greyhound |
Jul-26-09 02:31 AM |
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Thanks for reminding me, Greyhound... |
Octafish |
Jul-26-09 09:50 AM |
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To answer your question, NO. |
bobbolink |
Jul-26-09 06:17 PM |
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Perfect n/t k*r |
autorank |
Jul-26-09 03:37 AM |
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I always amazes me that people think the US treats it soldiers and vetrans well. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-26-09 07:28 AM |
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Interesting aside, there. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jul-26-09 09:39 AM |
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I'm curious. How has the History Chanel covered Butler. Honestly, sufficiently, barely? |
peacetalksforall |
Jul-26-09 09:49 AM |
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Barely, AFAIK. |
onager |
Jul-26-09 10:51 AM |
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Thanks for the background, the lead to the miniseries, and the autobio. |
peacetalksforall |
Jul-26-09 11:45 AM |
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Side proposal or request. Since you have taught and since you have been in Egypt |
peacetalksforall |
Jul-26-09 01:00 PM |
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I don't really know much about the education nowadays. |
onager |
Jul-26-09 01:25 PM |
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I would say barely at best |
Libertas1776 |
Jul-26-09 05:34 PM |
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Please watch THE PLOT TO OVERTHROW FDR |
bobbolink |
Jul-26-09 06:21 PM |
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As I wrote upthread.... DVD--THE PLOT TO OVERTHROW FDR |
bobbolink |
Jul-26-09 06:20 PM |
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This would make a great movie! |
rucky |
Jul-26-09 10:09 AM |
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It has been made into a (TV) movie. |
onager |
Jul-26-09 10:52 AM |
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Butler a credit. North a disgrace to the marines. Which one got famous? |
RedCloud |
Jul-26-09 10:14 AM |
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The conspirators, INCLUDING PRESCOTT BUSH, should have been executed. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-26-09 10:55 AM |
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And perhaps by doing so spared us of the mess we had for the last 8 years to boot! |
cascadiance |
Jul-26-09 06:13 PM |
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Congress buried the whole thing, nobody was even prosecuted. |
Greyhound |
Jul-27-09 12:48 PM |
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Hello, Octafish! |
XanaDUer |
Jul-26-09 11:12 AM |
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Good story, good message |
govegan |
Jul-26-09 12:04 PM |
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not so unusual, FDR himself considered a dictatorship |
Hamlette |
Jul-26-09 12:12 PM |
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Dr. my eyes |
HiyaEmerald Eyes |
Jul-26-09 12:15 PM |
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Many thanks, Octafish, for posting this. We can get the word out even if the textbooks |
bertman |
Jul-26-09 12:17 PM |
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You're welcome, bertman. Credit goes to DU and all good DUers who give a damn about Democracy. |
Octafish |
Jul-27-09 07:17 PM |
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Thanks for keeping this story alive. The BBC program is a must see for all DU'ers. |
David Zephyr |
Jul-26-09 12:33 PM |
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We should lobby Free Speech TV or Link TV to carry it... |
cascadiance |
Jul-26-09 06:19 PM |
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...temporarily. nt |
tomp |
Jul-26-09 12:38 PM |
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K & R |
swilton |
Jul-26-09 01:31 PM |
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This has got to be worth bookmarking.... |
lyonn |
Jul-26-09 01:49 PM |
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I learned about it in a goddamned *game* book. |
Orsino |
Jul-26-09 01:56 PM |
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K&R good one...exposes/reminds us of Mil indust complex |
opihimoimoi |
Jul-26-09 03:18 PM |
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the greatest heroes of American (and probably everybody else's) history are ignored or erased by |
yurbud |
Jul-26-09 05:30 PM |
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Here is the 43-minute video! |
bobbolink |
Jul-26-09 06:31 PM |
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It's amazing how so many today mock the notion of such elements diligently at work behind the scenes |
Echo In Light |
Jul-27-09 08:53 AM |
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General Smedley Butler would have made a great DU member |
formercia |
Jul-27-09 09:00 AM |
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bttt! |
Karenina |
Jul-27-09 12:03 PM |
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so, they make this academy award movie about Patton |
newspeak |
Jul-27-09 02:07 PM |
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A crying shame, it is. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jul-27-09 05:48 PM |
#102 |