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53. Prescott was central to the plot - he was chosen to be the chief liaison with Hitler's Germany
Edited on Sun Jul-26-09 07:31 AM by leveymg
HARPER'S (7/29/07): Prescott Bush was "key liaison" w/Nazis in ...It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government. Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a us ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/.../duboard.php?az... ...

Edited on Thu May-15-08 03:35 PM by leveymg
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000651




TITLE 1934: The Plot Against America
DEPARTMENT No Comment
BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED July 28, 2007


Im back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. Its the story of the Plot Against America. I dont mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Cant Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based.

In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Roths novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.

The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.

Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.

The Plot Against America portrayed in this episode of the BBC series Document gives fascinating insight into a dark and little known piece of American history in which the nation stood on the brink of betrayal. The role of the most powerful political dynastic family in the nations history in this whole affair is shocking.



Some of the other prominent figures in American finance and industry involved in this coup plot were "leading officers of the Morgan and Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:

Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.
Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks.
William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.
John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.
Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a codirector of the American Liberty League.
John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.
Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.
Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler." http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/27/112936/440 ; http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Coup.htm

BOTTOM LINE: When you put together the new National Archives evidence contained in the BBC report referenced by Klein and Horton with the older material published about Gen. Butler, we now have solid sourcing to establish the following:

In 1934, Prescott Bush conspired with leading figures on Wall St. to form an alliance with Nazi Germany in an attempt to overthrow FDR.

Treason.

Mark

P.S. - Now, take this a step further and combine it with Justice Arthur Goldberg's comment that "the Dulles Bros. were traitors" and former CIA Counter-intelligence Chief James Jesus Angelton's admission that he was given that job of head of Agency security on condition that he not polygraph "40 of Allen Dulles' best friends." I'll betya five-to-ten that you'll find Prescott Bush's name among those 40 Nazi-linked traitors who infiltrated CIA upon its founding.

Yes, Virginia, there are American Nazis. And, for a while they took over the country. Time to identify them all, and drive them and their inheritors out of positions of power and privilege.

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  -Smedley Butler Stopped American Fascist Conspiracy to Overthrow FDR Octafish  Jul-25-09 05:37 PM   #0 
  - Smedley Butler was one of America's greatest patriots  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 05:39 PM   #1 
  - That's why the Wall Street fascists chose him.  Octafish   Jul-25-09 05:58 PM   #6 
     - Wow, why am I not surprised that Al Smith and John Raskob were involved?  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:13 PM   #24 
     - Wasn't Prescott Bush also among them?  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 08:51 PM   #31 
     - Prescott Bush, Goodyear Tire, Heinz, DuPont, Birds' Eye, Maxwell House...  troubledamerican   Jul-25-09 09:00 PM   #34 
     - Prescott was central to the plot - he was chosen to be the chief liaison with Hitler's Germany  leveymg   Jul-26-09 07:29 AM   #53 
        - There's another side to this story - how Allen Dulles and friends moved Nazi gold out of Europe  leveymg   Jul-26-09 07:50 AM   #55 
        - Dr. Mengele financed operations with illegal drugs from his South American redoubt  Octafish   Jul-26-09 10:12 AM   #63 
           - I think you and Leveymg should collaborate on a book  bear425   Jul-26-09 11:45 AM   #70 
           - And an honor and pleasure  leveymg   Jul-26-09 12:34 PM   #77 
        - Had dinner last year w Edwin Black, author of "IBM and the Holocaust"  mod mom   Jul-26-09 10:07 AM   #61 
           - They've been trying ever since to control America's economy through deregulation of their activities  bjobotts   Jul-26-09 02:08 PM   #84 
           - Using an army of lobbyists rather than marines and dollars rather than guns to make a fascist corpo  bjobotts   Jul-26-09 02:09 PM   #85 
           - Wow! What was Mr. Black like?  Octafish   Jul-27-09 07:02 PM   #103 
     - Yep. nt  anonymous171   Jul-26-09 01:44 AM   #46 
  - K&R (note: Seize not Sieze) nt  valerief   Jul-25-09 05:41 PM   #2 
  - My bad! LOL! It's from the original source...  Octafish   Jul-25-09 06:01 PM   #7 
  - Not much of a warrior, tho.....  Bigmack   Jul-25-09 05:43 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-09 06:08 PM   #8 
  - most of those awards were for killing brown folks  Thothmes   Jul-25-09 06:24 PM   #12 
  - That why he wrote... War is a Racket....  Bigmack   Jul-25-09 08:25 PM   #26 
  - He was actually nominated for the medal of honor three times!  cascadiance   Jul-26-09 02:04 AM   #49 
  - K&R  redqueen   Jul-25-09 05:52 PM   #4 
  - Gen. Butler was a real maverick.  Octafish   Jul-25-09 06:14 PM   #9 
     - A true Hero, indeed.  redqueen   Jul-25-09 06:37 PM   #13 
     - Wait, they fired him because he insulted Benito fucking Mussolini?  anonymous171   Jul-26-09 01:46 AM   #47 
  - The real heroes rarely make it into the history books. Thank you for your service Octafish  glitch   Jul-25-09 05:57 PM   #5 
  - You're welcome, glitch. The Nuevo Reich wants to bury the lessons of the past...  Octafish   Jul-25-09 06:20 PM   #11 
  - I am reminded of a quote:  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:19 PM   #25 
  - A man who is entirely, unforgivably too obscure  Posteritatis   Jul-25-09 06:18 PM   #10 
  - What would the students say when they learned about Butler?  Octafish   Jul-25-09 07:32 PM   #18 
  - Well, they were freshman classes, so the bar was set with a shovel  Posteritatis   Jul-25-09 08:26 PM   #27 
  - I have political science professors who have not heard of Smedley Butler.  OnyxCollie   Jul-25-09 11:29 PM   #40 
  - college history and Butler  blackbird13   Jul-27-09 08:49 AM   #96 
  - K&R....and don't forget the involvement of George W Bush's grandfather...  AntiFascist   Jul-25-09 07:12 PM   #14 
  - Watch this BBC documentary on Prescott Bush's involvement in this...  cascadiance   Jul-25-09 07:22 PM   #16 
  - Prescott Bush also helped bring Nixon into power...  AntiFascist   Jul-25-09 07:36 PM   #20 
  - J Edgar Hoover ''watched'' over Butler.  Octafish   Jul-25-09 07:55 PM   #22 
  - This explains much about the earliest connections between...  AntiFascist   Jul-25-09 08:31 PM   #28 
  - Thanks! I knew Prescott Bush was in there somewhere.....  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 08:55 PM   #32 
  - K&R  Uzybone   Jul-25-09 07:14 PM   #15 
  - As Thom Hartmann would note this is a symptom of our textbooks being censored by Texas school system  cascadiance   Jul-25-09 07:36 PM   #19 
  - some of my older family would note that Texas Republicans  Bluenorthwest   Jul-26-09 07:41 AM   #54 
  - Reminds me of when Republicans complain about "rewriting history."  Beartracks   Jul-26-09 12:58 AM   #44 
  - K&R  conscious evolution   Jul-25-09 07:28 PM   #17 
  - "War is a Racket" is required reading.  Naturyl   Jul-25-09 07:40 PM   #21 
  - That's something they will never teach you in history class  Odin2005   Jul-25-09 08:10 PM   #23 
  - Thank you for all you do to shine a light on scrubbed history.  bleever   Jul-25-09 08:45 PM   #29 
  - The Plot To Overthrow FDR -- dvd  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 08:49 PM   #30 
  - Butler rocks  ellie   Jul-25-09 08:57 PM   #33 
  - K&R. JFK could have done with a few Butlers on his Secrete Service detail! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-25-09 09:17 PM   #35 
  - Oh yeah.  Octafish   Jul-27-09 07:08 PM   #104 
  - K&R. nt  OnyxCollie   Jul-25-09 09:17 PM   #36 
  - I wonder who our next Smedley Butler is going to be?  santamargarita   Jul-25-09 09:32 PM   #37 
  - Perhaps they were afraid Pat Tillman would have been one...  cascadiance   Jul-25-09 09:45 PM   #39 
  - He or she knows they are being watched.  Octafish   Jul-26-09 09:55 AM   #60 
  - If they'd succeeded, I wonder who's side we would've been on in WW2?  Marr   Jul-25-09 09:36 PM   #38 
  - And what if Al Smith had become president instead of FDR?  Jim Sagle   Jul-26-09 03:11 PM   #86 
  - My grandparents knew Smedley Butler.  begin_within   Jul-25-09 11:36 PM   #41 
  - Don't ever throw out the letters whether or not there are any between your parents and Butler.  peacetalksforall   Jul-26-09 09:48 AM   #57 
     - You're so right. My stepmother threw out a lot of my stuff,  begin_within   Jul-26-09 11:16 AM   #69 
  - Rest in peace wherever you are Smedley Butler  sasquatch   Jul-26-09 12:19 AM   #42 
  - Great report Octafish  MagickMuffin   Jul-26-09 12:27 AM   #43 
  - Smedley Butler, Meet John Perkins  Octafish   Jul-27-09 07:24 PM   #106 
  - K&R nt  Mithreal   Jul-26-09 01:38 AM   #45 
  - Fucking republicans are preaching the same exact socialism bullshit about Public Option health care.  LaPera   Jul-26-09 01:55 AM   #48 
  - I'm glad you pointed this out,  Greyhound   Jul-26-09 02:31 AM   #50 
  - Thanks for reminding me, Greyhound...  Octafish   Jul-26-09 09:50 AM   #59 
  - To answer your question, NO.  bobbolink   Jul-26-09 06:17 PM   #91 
  - Perfect n/t k*r  autorank   Jul-26-09 03:37 AM   #51 
  - I always amazes me that people think the US treats it soldiers and vetrans well.  geckosfeet   Jul-26-09 07:28 AM   #52 
  - Interesting aside, there. (nt)  redqueen   Jul-26-09 09:39 AM   #56 
  - I'm curious. How has the History Chanel covered Butler. Honestly, sufficiently, barely?  peacetalksforall   Jul-26-09 09:49 AM   #58 
  - Barely, AFAIK.  onager   Jul-26-09 10:51 AM   #65 
  - Thanks for the background, the lead to the miniseries, and the autobio.  peacetalksforall   Jul-26-09 11:45 AM   #71 
  - Side proposal or request. Since you have taught and since you have been in Egypt  peacetalksforall   Jul-26-09 01:00 PM   #79 
     - I don't really know much about the education nowadays.  onager   Jul-26-09 01:25 PM   #80 
  - I would say barely at best  Libertas1776   Jul-26-09 05:34 PM   #89 
  - Please watch THE PLOT TO OVERTHROW FDR  bobbolink   Jul-26-09 06:21 PM   #94 
  - As I wrote upthread.... DVD--THE PLOT TO OVERTHROW FDR  bobbolink   Jul-26-09 06:20 PM   #93 
  - This would make a great movie!  rucky   Jul-26-09 10:09 AM   #62 
  - It has been made into a (TV) movie.  onager   Jul-26-09 10:52 AM   #66 
  - Butler a credit. North a disgrace to the marines. Which one got famous?  RedCloud   Jul-26-09 10:14 AM   #64 
  - The conspirators, INCLUDING PRESCOTT BUSH, should have been executed.  kestrel91316   Jul-26-09 10:55 AM   #67 
  - And perhaps by doing so spared us of the mess we had for the last 8 years to boot!  cascadiance   Jul-26-09 06:13 PM   #90 
  - Congress buried the whole thing, nobody was even prosecuted.  Greyhound   Jul-27-09 12:48 PM   #100 
  - Hello, Octafish!  XanaDUer   Jul-26-09 11:12 AM   #68 
  - Good story, good message  govegan   Jul-26-09 12:04 PM   #72 
  - not so unusual, FDR himself considered a dictatorship  Hamlette   Jul-26-09 12:12 PM   #73 
  - Dr. my eyes  HiyaEmerald Eyes   Jul-26-09 12:15 PM   #74 
  - Many thanks, Octafish, for posting this. We can get the word out even if the textbooks  bertman   Jul-26-09 12:17 PM   #75 
  - You're welcome, bertman. Credit goes to DU and all good DUers who give a damn about Democracy.  Octafish   Jul-27-09 07:17 PM   #105 
  - Thanks for keeping this story alive. The BBC program is a must see for all DU'ers.  David Zephyr   Jul-26-09 12:33 PM   #76 
  - We should lobby Free Speech TV or Link TV to carry it...  cascadiance   Jul-26-09 06:19 PM   #92 
  - ...temporarily. nt  tomp   Jul-26-09 12:38 PM   #78 
  - K & R  swilton   Jul-26-09 01:31 PM   #81 
  - This has got to be worth bookmarking....  lyonn   Jul-26-09 01:49 PM   #82 
  - I learned about it in a goddamned *game* book.  Orsino   Jul-26-09 01:56 PM   #83 
  - K&R good one...exposes/reminds us of Mil indust complex  opihimoimoi   Jul-26-09 03:18 PM   #87 
  - the greatest heroes of American (and probably everybody else's) history are ignored or erased by  yurbud   Jul-26-09 05:30 PM   #88 
  - Here is the 43-minute video!  bobbolink   Jul-26-09 06:31 PM   #95 
  - It's amazing how so many today mock the notion of such elements diligently at work behind the scenes  Echo In Light   Jul-27-09 08:53 AM   #97 
  - General Smedley Butler would have made a great DU member  formercia   Jul-27-09 09:00 AM   #98 
  - bttt!  Karenina   Jul-27-09 12:03 PM   #99 
  - so, they make this academy award movie about Patton  newspeak   Jul-27-09 02:07 PM   #101 
     - A crying shame, it is. (nt)  redqueen   Jul-27-09 05:48 PM   #102 
 

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