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104. Riding while white, long-haired and raggedy-assed in the early '70s...
I'm riding in the passenger seat of a friend's car, fast asleep, middle of the night, dead to the world. Next thing I knew, I was picked up by the armpits and deposited in the gravel on the side of the highway. Then the screaming and flashlights go off, just before the kicking begins. Since all three of us were sober, had no open containers or drugs, the cops felt it necessary to supply us with something.

So we went to jail for possession on planted evidence -- four one-ounce baggies of that incredibly noxious and useless pot that used to sell for $10 or $15 back then. Amazingly, only one of them showed up on the police report. We were fortunate we weren't charged with possession with intent... We all got 30 hours community service, which none of us ever did, and life moved on.

Fast forward about 25 years and I'm doing 110 in a 55 -- no shit -- and of course I get stopped by a Santa Clara County sheriff. I'm wearing a nice Italian suit and tasteful silk tie, driving a year-old Accord, hair trimmed to respectability and I he asks me if I know why he pulled me over. I tell him I simply can't imagine why he pulled me over, at which point we both bust out laughing. And after we yuk it up for a couple more minutes, he lets me go with a warning.

Like a recidivist, career speeder is going to give a shit about a warning from a sheriff. We both know it's an exercise in futility.

We both take off, spinning our tires in the same damn gravel I got a face-full of on the Hwy 237 roadside, but that time on the way to Santa Clara County jail 25 years prior.

So gee whiz... do you suppose profiling actually exists?

Can you imagine how dead I'd be if I were a black man?

Or if allowed to live, how many counts of possession with intent to distribute I'd have had lodged against me?

Or how I probably couldn't afford a decent lawyer and would have got some deal-cutting PD instead?

And how I might still be in jail to this day on a classic chicken-shit beef like that?


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   Unfortunately, they'll just drag it out and make it worse.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:20 AM   #6 
   You are quite correct  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 08:29 AM   #9 
   Tactics...like completely tearing the car apart and destroying it!  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 09:38 PM   #83 
      Time to shut down the tactics.  midnight   Jul-25-09 11:44 PM   #101 
   +1  slampoet   Jul-25-09 06:25 PM   #58 
   Did he really?  malaise   Jul-25-09 08:42 AM   #14 
   That's the nature of the Fourth Amendment  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 08:49 AM   #17 
      In a real sense many minority kids are socialized to give up  malaise   Jul-25-09 09:52 AM   #26 
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   I read your post  quakerboy   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #74 
   One big YAWN....  Butch350   Jul-25-09 11:35 PM   #97 
      Ok, Butchie. What's up with the major 'tude? nt  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 11:40 PM   #99 
   Recommend  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:03 AM   #2 
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   Oh, Stop Already....PLEASE!!! Sometimes Police Go Too Far... Sometimes  ChiciB1   Jul-25-09 08:12 AM   #4 
   Who said the following words?  Renaissance Man   Jul-25-09 08:16 AM   #5 
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   Obviously, You Completely Miss My Point... But Then Who Cares?  ChiciB1   Jul-25-09 10:44 PM   #89 
      Your cluelessness is blanketed only by your hysteria.  Number23   Jul-25-09 11:03 PM   #93 
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   "Profiling" of any type for the reason of harassment is wrong.  hobbit709   Jul-25-09 08:49 AM   #18 
   Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-25-09 08:58 AM   #19 
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   My Story  yellowwood   Jul-25-09 11:39 AM   #32 
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   Every people of color  Hutzpa   Jul-25-09 02:26 PM   #37 
   k&r  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-25-09 02:32 PM   #39 
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   Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-25-09 05:12 PM   #47 
   Gates needed a lesson in humilty? fuck you.  KG   Jul-25-09 05:38 PM   #49 
   I don't think you really mean that  Advocatus_Diaboli   Jul-25-09 05:42 PM   #51 
   Relevancy fail  Advocatus_Diaboli   Jul-25-09 05:29 PM   #48 
   Are you intentionally being disruptive or merely obtuse?  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 07:07 PM   #66 
   Boy, are you shortsighted.  tabatha   Jul-25-09 07:53 PM   #69 
   It could not be more on topic. You on the other hand....  20score   Jul-26-09 02:32 AM   #108 
   I had several similar experiences...  knixphan   Jul-25-09 05:41 PM   #50 
   Really frustrating to see this happening on a forum dedicated to progressive ideals  varelse   Jul-25-09 05:53 PM   #53 
   I agree wholeheartedly nt  MrScorpio   Jul-25-09 06:36 PM   #61 
   Well, you know..another good thing that's  Cha   Jul-25-09 05:57 PM   #55 
   recommend.  Starry Messenger   Jul-25-09 06:25 PM   #57 
   wonderful post  CatWomanDU Moderator   Jul-25-09 06:37 PM   #62 
   kicked for later reading  hfojvt   Jul-25-09 07:12 PM   #67 
   Thanks for your story, and those of others.  tabatha   Jul-25-09 07:52 PM   #68 
   For future reference, NEVER give up your fourth amendment rights  WeDidIt   Jul-25-09 08:07 PM   #73 
   Cause they NEVER  quakerboy   Jul-25-09 08:24 PM   #75 
   agreed  barbtries   Jul-26-09 02:58 AM   #109 
   "I consent to a search only if you allow it to be videotaped."  joshcryer   Jul-26-09 03:16 AM   #110 
   I've refused to consent to searches before.  jmm   Jul-25-09 08:55 PM   #78 
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   Your story had me holding my breath in fear..... that "search" could have planted "goods"  bobbolink   Jul-25-09 09:35 PM   #82 
   I had a friend who was stopped all the time  DissedByBush   Jul-25-09 09:54 PM   #85 
   The same thing has happened to me  Aussie_expat   Jul-25-09 10:33 PM   #88 
   k+r.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-25-09 10:58 PM   #91 
   I'm so sorry  MrBig   Jul-25-09 10:59 PM   #92 
   We support the Panthers pulled over back in the day all the time  RedCloud   Jul-25-09 11:07 PM   #94 
   in the paper today  mimitabby   Jul-25-09 11:19 PM   #96 
   I'm holding my breath reading your experience. I was thinking  midnight   Jul-25-09 11:43 PM   #100 
   Years ago, I had a black female boss who drove a showy Cadillac.  JDPriestly   Jul-25-09 11:59 PM   #102 
   Kicked and Rec'd!  FrenchieCat   Jul-26-09 12:11 AM   #103 
   Riding while white, long-haired and raggedy-assed in the early '70s...  warren pease   Jul-26-09 01:42 AM   #104 
   K&R. I'm white and was beaten by the cops when I was younger for having long hair.  20score   Jul-26-09 02:18 AM   #105 
   Well said!  FourScore   Jul-26-09 02:31 AM   #106 
   thank you  barbtries   Jul-26-09 02:31 AM   #107 
   Thanks for this...  Lateedee   Jul-26-09 08:43 AM   #112 
   There is NO "equivalency" issue here.  Karenina   Jul-26-09 08:58 AM   #114 
      deleted off topic  imdjh   Jul-26-09 12:32 PM   #116 
      I don't think...  Lateedee   Jul-26-09 01:10 PM   #118 
         Tschüß!  Karenina   Jul-26-09 01:48 PM   #119 
   Clean story. A case of actual profiling. Glad you posted because the definition is getting blurred  imdjh   Jul-26-09 12:29 PM   #115 
 

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