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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:12 AM
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35. He used an old ploy.
Gates kept asking him for his name and badge number which is a reasonable request. The cop ignored him, and pretended he didn't hear what was said. Gates stepped out of the house to get the info and was arrested.
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  -Gates cop asked him to step outside otherwise he couldn't arrest him for disorderly conduct. dkf  Jul-25-09 03:05 AM   #0 
  - Exactly. He lured him outside so he could humiliate him. What a hero.  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 03:14 AM   #1 
  - The cop is an asshole for that. He probably gets some joy out of having power over others.  Selatius   Jul-25-09 03:17 AM   #2 
  - from my experience, good cop or bad, they enjoy having control over others  ixion   Jul-25-09 06:55 AM   #8 
  - but JIM CROW-ley is highly respected.  troubledamerican   Jul-25-09 09:06 PM   #60 
  - Now that is what you call a "pig" (n/t)  LAGC   Jul-25-09 03:25 AM   #3 
  - I acertained the exact same thing the other day  Eric68601   Jul-25-09 04:16 AM   #4 
  - Welcome to DU, Eric.  EFerrari   Jul-25-09 04:19 AM   #5 
  - Remember this....  Uben   Jul-25-09 04:56 AM   #6 
  - now see, that is something I would never think of. but then, I have never worried about  ejpoeta   Jul-25-09 08:00 AM   #22 
  - Gates did the opposite of interfere with an investigation  rocktivity   Jul-25-09 05:16 AM   #7 
  - I'm seeing all the judges and juries around here claiming the cop was within the law  RC   Jul-25-09 07:19 AM   #10 
     - The cop was within the law, but so was the professor.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 07:43 AM   #14 
     - You might enjoy this piece:  Karenina   Jul-25-09 07:56 AM   #19 
     - Thank you! That will be an awesome show.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:06 AM   #26 
     - This reminds me of vampires having to be asked inside. Surreal. nt  glitch   Jul-25-09 08:51 AM   #33 
        - Yes, and I almost used that as an example!!  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 09:05 AM   #34 
     - That's the problem  Inchworm   Jul-25-09 07:45 AM   #15 
     - Yes. Unfortunately, many jurors are very naive about police.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:14 AM   #28 
        - That can be appealed  JonLP24   Jul-25-09 08:25 AM   #30 
           - Yes it can be appealed. I mentioned the Supreme Court ruling.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:41 AM   #31 
              - That is why I clearly stated twice  JonLP24   Jul-25-09 09:17 AM   #39 
                 - We're in basic agreement.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 09:28 AM   #41 
                    - Thank god  JonLP24   Jul-25-09 09:38 AM   #42 
     - Within the law & the right thing are often not the same.  Statistical   Jul-25-09 12:35 PM   #54 
  - Evidently, this police officer acted "stupidly"  L. Coyote   Jul-25-09 07:18 AM   #9 
  - But now the President thinks he's an outstanding officer.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-26-09 01:00 AM   #66 
  - is there any sort of history regarding neighbors calling about an intruder and the intruder being  ejpoeta   Jul-25-09 07:30 AM   #11 
  - I think it was a passerby who called police  stray cat   Jul-25-09 07:38 AM   #12 
     - i mean the police response to them.... when the 'breaker in' is the owner.  ejpoeta   Jul-25-09 07:57 AM   #20 
        - I once climbed through the bedroom window of a friend's house  rzemanfl   Jul-25-09 08:12 AM   #27 
  - Would it be different if the occupant was a skin head calling a black officer racial slurs  stray cat   Jul-25-09 07:40 AM   #13 
  - He asked for badge number and name. How is that harrassing?  geckosfeet   Jul-25-09 07:47 AM   #17 
  - he was uppity set  Warren Stupidity   Jul-25-09 09:17 AM   #38 
  - No. It wouldn't be any different.  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 07:52 AM   #18 
  - As long as the skinhead is within his own home and not threatening violence..  Fumesucker   Jul-25-09 07:58 AM   #21 
  - Happens all the time  HughMoran   Jul-25-09 08:03 AM   #25 
  - No. That would remain protected free speech.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-25-09 09:16 AM   #37 
  - verbal abuse is not a crime  noiretextatique   Jul-25-09 11:34 AM   #47 
  - Oh something tells me most of DU would be cheering and  LisaL   Jul-25-09 10:10 PM   #63 
  - Of course. He was playing a cat and mouse game when he should have walked away.  geckosfeet   Jul-25-09 07:46 AM   #16 
  - Yes, it's been obvious all along that this cop lost control of his senses  HughMoran   Jul-25-09 08:00 AM   #23 
  - This cop messed with the wrong guy...  nradisic   Jul-25-09 08:02 AM   #24 
  - Nah. Crowley didn't like the "acoustics of the kitchen" of the feeble man on a cane  tj2001   Jul-25-09 08:18 AM   #29 
  - You'd think Gates would know the law  marshall   Jul-25-09 08:45 AM   #32 
  - He used an old ploy.  Are_grits_groceries   Jul-25-09 09:12 AM   #35 
  - No shit. That is the part of the narrative of events that betrays  Warren Stupidity   Jul-25-09 09:15 AM   #36 
  - absolutely. was clear reading that what the cop did. at that point we knew the man wasnt  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 09:48 AM   #43 
  - It's Gates narrative. You of course have every right to choose  seaglass   Jul-25-09 11:53 AM   #49 
     - Nobody is disputing this part.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-25-09 12:21 PM   #50 
     - read the police report. cops version. the dumbshit lays it out clearly and obviously what he was  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 12:52 PM   #56 
        - There are some words missing in your response, I'm not sure if it is some sort of shorthand  seaglass   Jul-25-09 08:36 PM   #59 
           - simply, from crowleys account only, the police report, it shows 3 places where he did wrong  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 09:12 PM   #61 
              - Can you point them out?  seaglass   Jul-25-09 10:08 PM   #62 
              - he says he knew at that point gates belonged in the home but he called harvard police for  seabeyond   Jul-26-09 08:28 AM   #70 
                 - According to the police report - which has not been confirmed as the truth -  seaglass   Jul-26-09 09:09 AM   #71 
                    - it says in police report called harvard police to verify. says i started to give my name and gates  seabeyond   Jul-26-09 09:18 AM   #72 
                       - Is there more than one version of the police report?  seaglass   Jul-26-09 10:31 AM   #73 
                          - i am thinking there is.... what i read three days ago  seabeyond   Jul-26-09 10:38 AM   #74 
              - Then why does the President think he's an outstanding officer?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-26-09 01:02 AM   #68 
  - That is the whole reason for calling the campus security, imo....  Lars39   Jul-25-09 09:21 AM   #40 
  - also, even though he KNEW gates belonged in that house per his statement, it aLSO  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 09:49 AM   #44 
     - Yep, he kept winding him up until he was sure the others were outside.  Lars39   Jul-25-09 10:22 AM   #45 
        - what bothers me with protect cop at all times, is we can see this. clearly as can be. there is a  seabeyond   Jul-25-09 12:25 PM   #51 
  - He also asked (or demanded) that Gates step outside at the very beginning of the interview  fishwax   Jul-25-09 11:04 AM   #46 
  - cower and defer  noiretextatique   Jul-25-09 11:41 AM   #48 
  - Saying that the acustics was not sufficient in the house to have a conversation was crap.  WillieW   Jul-25-09 12:31 PM   #53 
  - The police frequently abuse the law by speeding not being in pursuit of anyone.  WillieW   Jul-25-09 12:29 PM   #52 
  - Is that the only reason for an officer to speed?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-26-09 01:01 AM   #67 
     - Give me another one. One cop in the car on a highway w/o sirens.  WillieW   Jul-26-09 11:20 AM   #75 
        - Responding to a report of a crime.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-26-09 01:02 PM   #77 
  - A policeman did the same to me but when I went outside,  mmonk   Jul-25-09 12:46 PM   #55 
  - Caucasian Male?  WillieW   Jul-25-09 01:24 PM   #57 
     - Yes.  mmonk   Jul-25-09 02:24 PM   #58 
  - This is what the cops must learn how to do...  followthemoney   Jul-26-09 12:55 AM   #64 
  - No kidding. This guy was the TEACHER.  EFerrari   Jul-26-09 12:59 AM   #65 
  - But still he wouldn't have been able to do this unless he was in the house.  Life Long Dem   Jul-26-09 01:03 AM   #69 
  - Correct!  WillieW   Jul-26-09 11:21 AM   #76 
     - That's going by the law.  Life Long Dem   Jul-26-09 02:58 PM   #79 
  - The Arrest was illegal anyway  Gothmog   Jul-26-09 02:22 PM   #78 

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