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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 01:22 PM
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22. In my experience, knowing your rights really pisses them off.
Like you, I know my rights and refuse to let them push me around.

One officer flew into a rage after I said "You can't do that" in response to an unreasonable demand. I'll never forget his response, "No little shit is going to tell ME what I can or cannot do."

We spent the next minute or so standing toe to toe screaming obscenities at each other until more officers arrived on the scene. They talked him down and apologized to me for the "confrontational nature" of the first officer.

I'm lucky that all this happened on a crowded street in front of dozens of witnesses. Otherwise I'd have probably been arrested on bullshit charges and/or beaten to a pulp.
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  -K&R if you have been subject to police abuse of their authority kirby  Jul-24-09 12:39 PM   #0 
  - recommend.  VMI Dem   Jul-24-09 12:39 PM   #1 
  - K&R n/t  Dogtown   Jul-24-09 12:40 PM   #2 
  - Yes, and once it happens you never look  undeterred   Jul-24-09 12:40 PM   #3 
  - I've got a good solution for wondering  WeDidIt   Jul-24-09 12:42 PM   #5 
     - What a sad commentary  kirby   Jul-24-09 12:45 PM   #8 
        - It's better than being beat upside the head with a club  WeDidIt   Jul-24-09 12:59 PM   #19 
  - Yep, that's why I basically cower and say "Sir" a lot when confronted by them  WeDidIt   Jul-24-09 12:41 PM   #4 
  - K&R  conscious evolution   Jul-24-09 12:43 PM   #6 
  - I should be able to rec this three times.  Jokerman   Jul-24-09 12:45 PM   #7 
  - Absolutely.  Th1onein   Jul-24-09 12:46 PM   #9 
  - In my experience, knowing your rights really pisses them off.  Jokerman   Jul-24-09 01:22 PM   #22 
     - You have to be firm with them, like they are small children.  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 12:04 PM   #160 
  - Yes  Joanne98   Jul-24-09 12:46 PM   #10 
  - Been hit with a billy club in the arm for "not moving fast enough"  Zodiak   Jul-24-09 12:51 PM   #11 
  - Galveston cops or Galveston County cops?  Th1onein   Jul-25-09 12:09 PM   #161 
  - Several times, most significantly at an anti-war rally  freddie mertz   Jul-24-09 12:53 PM   #12 
  - Legalize drugs and elminate speed limits  FarCenter   Jul-24-09 12:53 PM   #13 
  - I'm OK with the legalize drugs thing...  ekwhite   Jul-25-09 08:20 AM   #101 
     - Would never work in the nyc providence boston corridor.  slampoet   Jul-25-09 12:44 PM   #167 
  - Yep  chemp   Jul-24-09 12:53 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, long hair.  Bette Noir   Jul-24-09 11:27 PM   #63 
  - Auto-Unrec for the "K&R" post.  Iggo   Jul-24-09 12:54 PM   #15 
  - Same here.  LostInAnomie   Jul-24-09 05:47 PM   #30 
  - I have on multiple occasions  HughMoran   Jul-24-09 12:55 PM   #16 
  - K & R ...many times  L0oniX   Jul-24-09 12:56 PM   #17 
  - How about an ongoing battle with the sheriff over his refusal to provide service  tularetom   Jul-24-09 12:56 PM   #18 
  - I was belittled after being mugged at gun point, that count?  justiceischeap   Jul-24-09 12:59 PM   #20 
  - In college  RT Atlanta   Jul-24-09 01:01 PM   #21 
  - So, were the fireworks legal in your state?  Taitertots   Jul-25-09 11:56 AM   #157 
  - Yes  ipaint   Jul-24-09 01:32 PM   #23 
  - Yes, I was threatened with arrest  get the red out   Jul-24-09 01:50 PM   #24 
  - Taliban-like. nt  Enthusiast   Jul-25-09 02:31 AM   #91 
  - That's a very interesting story  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 12:51 PM   #169 
  - K&R  me b zola   Jul-24-09 01:53 PM   #25 
  - Yes X 2.  yowzayowzayowza   Jul-24-09 02:02 PM   #26 
  - Pulled over on an empty interstate for "failure to signal a lane change for 2 seconds"  Flaneur   Jul-24-09 02:06 PM   #27 
  - Been there had that done to me  Vincardog   Jul-24-09 05:45 PM   #28 
  - Hell yes. Cops lie their asses off about everything.  BuyingThyme   Jul-24-09 05:47 PM   #29 
  - recommend  TexasObserver   Jul-24-09 05:51 PM   #31 
  - Yep, by the cop in this story  Ten Bears   Jul-24-09 05:56 PM   #32 
  - Yes, in ways im unwilling to talk about here...and a witness  lxlxlxl   Jul-24-09 08:04 PM   #33 
  - How about if you've ever been publicly belittled and hectored by a professor  PurityOfEssence   Jul-24-09 08:07 PM   #34 
  - In my case,  PSzymeczek   Jul-24-09 08:41 PM   #40 
  - oh, i know. i've had several of them come into my home and belittle me for hours.  enki23   Jul-25-09 12:28 PM   #164 
     - If he hadn't followed Crowley outside, refusing to stop raging, he wouldn't have been arrested  PurityOfEssence   Jul-25-09 03:08 PM   #182 
        - what a load of "cosmic" horseshit.  enki23   Jul-25-09 07:26 PM   #186 
           - He left the house. He walked down the stairs. He was on the street.  PurityOfEssence   Jul-25-09 08:54 PM   #196 
  - Nope. I was doing exactly what he arrested me for.  rucky   Jul-24-09 08:12 PM   #35 
  - Yes, just about every time I have to deal with them. Most of  david13   Jul-24-09 08:13 PM   #36 
  - DWB three times.  AspenRose   Jul-24-09 08:17 PM   #37 
  - I mouthed off at a cop  bigwillq   Jul-24-09 08:18 PM   #38 
  - I have been abused twice...  orbitalman   Jul-24-09 08:29 PM   #39 
  - +1 n/t  Oldtimeralso   Jul-25-09 01:19 AM   #82 
  - I have seen both service above and beyond the call of duty and extreme abuse of authority..  Fumesucker   Jul-24-09 08:55 PM   #41 
  - Who hasn't?  bc3000   Jul-24-09 08:57 PM   #42 
  - I never have.  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-24-09 09:02 PM   #44 
  - oh goody for you...  TankLV   Jul-25-09 11:05 AM   #138 
     - Somebody asked and I answered.  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Jul-25-09 08:18 PM   #191 
  - Me. Never had a problem with them..  Pavulon   Jul-25-09 11:07 AM   #139 
  - My own little story...  FLyellowdog   Jul-24-09 09:00 PM   #43 
  - yep nt  Voice for Peace   Jul-24-09 09:11 PM   #45 
  - ...and another.  boppers   Jul-24-09 09:18 PM   #46 
  - I have.  SeattleGirl   Jul-24-09 09:20 PM   #47 
  - Interesting that eight showed up...  Ten Bears   Jul-24-09 11:37 PM   #66 
     - No, there was no other incident going on nearby.  SeattleGirl   Jul-25-09 12:02 AM   #74 
  - Yes.  catrose   Jul-24-09 09:22 PM   #48 
  - three instances  frogcycle   Jul-24-09 09:28 PM   #49 
  - K&R. Refusal to investigate complaints; unprofessional attitude  kestrel91316   Jul-24-09 09:41 PM   #50 
  - Everybody's innocent....  loveable liberal   Jul-24-09 09:43 PM   #51 
  - It doesn't explain the over 90% of cases  JonLP24   Jul-25-09 04:07 AM   #94 
  - Traffic tickets are extortion. I was ticketed for running a red light that I didn't run...  1monster   Jul-25-09 09:08 AM   #106 
  - Yea.. I understand that...  loveable liberal   Jul-25-09 08:25 PM   #193 
  - Police dont determine guilt, the judge/jury does.  kirby   Jul-25-09 10:58 AM   #135 
  - and fuck you too for being an asshole...  TankLV   Jul-25-09 11:08 AM   #140 
     - You're funny.  loveable liberal   Jul-25-09 08:20 PM   #192 
  - Yep. Never, ever trust a cop. Any cop. Ever.  backscatter712   Jul-24-09 09:52 PM   #52 
  - K&R N/T  beevul   Jul-24-09 09:55 PM   #53 
  - Nope....  whistler162   Jul-24-09 10:01 PM   #54 
  - Stupid Me.  safeinOhio   Jul-24-09 10:10 PM   #55 
  - Pulled over in Somerville, MA 10 years ago for no apparent reason  BREMPRO   Jul-24-09 10:13 PM   #56 
  - K&R  2QT2BSTR8   Jul-24-09 10:42 PM   #57 
  - Oh yes.  ChazInAz   Jul-24-09 10:47 PM   #58 
  - Marana appears from here in Tucson  ProudDad   Jul-25-09 01:26 AM   #85 
  - K&R  Orwellian_Ghost   Jul-24-09 10:53 PM   #59 
  - K & R  winyanstaz   Jul-24-09 11:19 PM   #60 
  - First, let me start by saying I'm white. But the cops hassled me when I was  lob1   Jul-24-09 11:23 PM   #61 
  - Last week while on a evening walk with another person in my  midnight   Jul-24-09 11:23 PM   #62 
  - This is subjective unless these "police abuses" have been documented and proven as fact. n/t  wisteria   Jul-24-09 11:29 PM   #64 
  - Disorderly Conduct is a CHUMP CHARGE!  NinjaguyDan   Jul-24-09 11:30 PM   #65 
  - Ok, tough guy  Taitertots   Jul-25-09 02:02 PM   #177 
  - It has most certainly happened to me - more than once.  Celtic Merlin   Jul-24-09 11:39 PM   #67 
  - Skinner, we need to be able to REC more than once!!  L. Coyote   Jul-24-09 11:50 PM   #68 
  - I won't recommend since we weren't really abused, but it was a situation that could have gone bad  drm604   Jul-24-09 11:54 PM   #69 
  - yes  Amaya   Jul-24-09 11:54 PM   #70 
  - You betcha!  anachro1   Jul-24-09 11:55 PM   #71 
  - Was arrested and held wrongly for 2.5 days in Maricopa County Jail  Juan_de_la_Dem   Jul-24-09 11:56 PM   #72 
  - many times.. nt  G_j   Jul-24-09 11:56 PM   #73 
  - Yep. Moving to a new apartment.  NoQuarter   Jul-25-09 12:03 AM   #75 
  - K&R  toymachines   Jul-25-09 12:11 AM   #76 
  - Gassed, shot with rubber pellets, clubbed...  warren pease   Jul-25-09 12:25 AM   #77 
  - Oh, Warren. You're lucky you were in CA, my brother!  Celtic Merlin   Jul-25-09 01:01 PM   #171 
     - I didn't feel so lucky at the time... ; - )  warren pease   Jul-25-09 02:39 PM   #180 
  - Got hit on  sallylou666   Jul-25-09 12:28 AM   #78 
  - K&R I've also been cut some slack by other officers.  alfredo   Jul-25-09 12:28 AM   #79 
  - K&R Me too.  intheflow   Jul-25-09 01:25 AM   #84 
  - Yes  Mojorabbit   Jul-25-09 12:31 AM   #80 
  - when my son was about 16  barbtries   Jul-25-09 01:14 AM   #81 
  - Yep! Big KICK!  ProudDad   Jul-25-09 01:20 AM   #83 
  - twice. once playing goofy with a statue with boyfriend when riot police appeared.  Hannah Bell   Jul-25-09 01:28 AM   #86 
  - I was arrested for disorderly conduct because my buddy dared to question the cops identity.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jul-25-09 01:43 AM   #87 
  - "Innocent people go to jail everyday"  workinclasszero   Jul-25-09 01:53 AM   #88 
  - K&R  Seldona   Jul-25-09 01:54 AM   #89 
  - Yes, twice.  texanwitch   Jul-25-09 01:59 AM   #90 
  - Back in 97'  Eric68601   Jul-25-09 03:58 AM   #92 
  - K & R  Raine   Jul-25-09 04:00 AM   #93 
  - more than once  Aragorn   Jul-25-09 04:54 AM   #95 
  - As expected, when Government took over the "numbers" rackets,  Downwinder   Jul-25-09 05:34 AM   #96 
  - I was n/t  SoCalDem   Jul-25-09 06:02 AM   #97 
  - Here unfortunately.  Maraya1969   Jul-25-09 06:40 AM   #98 
  - Question  The Wizard   Jul-25-09 07:51 AM   #99 
  - Arrested as a teenager  ekwhite   Jul-25-09 08:17 AM   #100 
  - Yes  PJPhreak   Jul-25-09 08:24 AM   #102 
  - First time in 1976, last time, this year. nt  1monster   Jul-25-09 08:46 AM   #103 
  - +150 recommends and counting  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 08:49 AM   #104 
  - K&R if you have ever been treated wrongly by someone in your life  stray cat   Jul-25-09 10:36 AM   #129 
     - K&R if you've ever had a poster reply with a non sequitur  TexasObserver   Jul-25-09 12:04 PM   #159 
  - It took 6 cops in Austin,TX  quoddy woman   Jul-25-09 08:55 AM   #105 
  - Kick.  Heidi   Jul-25-09 09:09 AM   #107 
  - K & R  rateyes   Jul-25-09 09:10 AM   #108 
  - Me! When I was 21 I was stopped for no reason by a cop who sexually harrassed me.  Happyhippychick   Jul-25-09 09:15 AM   #109 
  - You are lucky  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 09:38 AM   #116 
     - Yes in the end I certainly was lucky. Poor Cara.  Happyhippychick   Jul-25-09 11:23 AM   #143 
     - Something similar happened to a woman in Florida about fifteen to twenty years ago...  1monster   Jul-25-09 08:02 PM   #187 
  - 7 incidents of police harassment in 08 but that year was an outlier and I think it had to  Exultant Democracy   Jul-25-09 09:22 AM   #110 
  - 7 incidents of police harassment in 08 but that year was an outlier and I think it had to  Exultant Democracy   Jul-25-09 09:23 AM   #111 
  - 7 incidents of police harassment in 08 but that year was an outlier and I think it had to  Exultant Democracy   Jul-25-09 09:23 AM   #112 
  - Several times  Bluenorthwest   Jul-25-09 09:27 AM   #113 
  - There is a new reality show about female cops in Broward County  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 09:31 AM   #114 
  - Nope. The police have always been courteous and patient, even when I heaped verbal abuse on them.  Rabrrrrrr   Jul-25-09 09:33 AM   #115 
  - No 'shady shit'?  Bluenorthwest   Jul-25-09 11:29 AM   #145 
     - I never claimed my post proved anything, but thanks for the condescending insult.  Rabrrrrrr   Jul-25-09 12:03 PM   #158 
  - three incidents of driving while black  noiretextatique   Jul-25-09 09:49 AM   #117 
  - delete...duplicate  CannabisRex   Jul-25-09 09:51 AM   #118 
  - Me too  CannabisRex   Jul-25-09 09:51 AM   #119 
  - FYI - this week there's a 5-state roadblock operation called "take back our highways"  nashville_brook   Jul-25-09 10:02 AM   #122 
  - Yes, that, and also known as "how to generate monies in cash-strapped red states  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 10:10 AM   #124 
  - ?? not sure what that means -- but, sure there's a direct revenue motivation, BUT, the scarier  nashville_brook   Jul-25-09 10:52 AM   #133 
     - It means  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 11:34 AM   #146 
        - I've seen more cars pulled over in the last six months than I've seen in the  1monster   Jul-25-09 08:12 PM   #189 
        - gotcha, agreed. be safe.  nashville_brook   Jul-26-09 10:03 AM   #198 
  - Yes, that, and also known as "how to generate monies in cash-strapped red states  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 10:10 AM   #125 
  - I grew up in Miami. Remember that other set of outstanding peace officers,  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 10:05 AM   #123 
  - Good advice  southshore   Jul-25-09 11:03 AM   #136 
  - oh hell yeah. hippie profiling. the cop had a record of abusing women he'd pulled-over,  nashville_brook   Jul-25-09 09:54 AM   #120 
  - k&r  eShirl   Jul-25-09 10:02 AM   #121 
  - The REAL issue of the Harvard Prof Arrest  harvey007   Jul-25-09 10:14 AM   #126 
  - When i was In college  Froward69   Jul-25-09 10:31 AM   #127 
  - K &R if you have ever behaved more aggressively toward someone than warranted  stray cat   Jul-25-09 10:34 AM   #128 
  - You miss the point...  kirby   Jul-25-09 11:08 AM   #141 
  - the cop is a professional, they say.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-25-09 11:38 AM   #149 
  - Police officers are in positions of authority over citizens, an  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 11:38 AM   #150 
  - k&r  kpominville   Jul-25-09 10:48 AM   #130 
  - Many timea in many circumstances. From physical to verbal to incompetence in  T Wolf   Jul-25-09 10:49 AM   #131 
  - Yes I have.Miami Beach, Florida. Notorious for this. It's been in the paper. I'm white btw  Shagbark Hickory   Jul-25-09 10:51 AM   #132 
  - Right after the 2000 Coup and then again after the ILLEGAL WAR OF CHOICE  TankLV   Jul-25-09 10:56 AM   #134 
  - yes  pollo poco   Jul-25-09 11:04 AM   #137 
  - Wish I could rec your suggestion. There is a tangible, qualitative difference between  T Wolf   Jul-25-09 11:35 AM   #147 
  - K&R  Timbuk3   Jul-25-09 11:16 AM   #142 
  - Yes.  kdpeters   Jul-25-09 11:29 AM   #144 
  - My story...  kirby   Jul-25-09 11:36 AM   #148 
  - Well, maybe that cop was just having a bad day  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 11:42 AM   #151 
     - LOL, his bad day became my nightmare! n/t  kirby   Jul-25-09 11:47 AM   #153 
  - In 64 years I've never been close to a cop. They are something only seen in the distance  Speck Tater   Jul-25-09 11:45 AM   #152 
  - Don't want a traffic ticket, dont drive... Great advice.. n/t  kirby   Jul-25-09 11:49 AM   #154 
  - I agree, for the most part  XanaDUer   Jul-25-09 11:50 AM   #155 
  - A life of fear is no life at all.  Egnever   Jul-25-09 12:43 PM   #166 
     - It's not a matter of avoiding all risky situations. It's a matter of picking your battles.  Speck Tater   Jul-25-09 12:54 PM   #170 
  - Hmmm  Mudoria   Jul-25-09 11:50 AM   #156 
  - i wish i could tell my story here  lies and propaganda   Jul-25-09 12:18 PM   #162 
  - OH yeah  deadmessengers   Jul-25-09 12:24 PM   # 
  - One night, with my 17 year old son in the front seat beside me, I picked my 32 year old  1monster   Jul-25-09 08:35 PM   #194 
  - Alabama  trocar   Jul-25-09 12:24 PM   #163 
  - Yes, back in 1973...  GReedDiamond   Jul-25-09 12:31 PM   #165 
  - Nothing major - just one incident  RamboLiberal   Jul-25-09 12:47 PM   #168 
  - Un-rec for good service  Taitertots   Jul-25-09 01:02 PM   #172 
  - you assume that everyone who answered yes, acted like a serious jerk  G_j   Jul-25-09 01:11 PM   #174 
     - I read all the posts up to when I wrote that  Taitertots   Jul-25-09 01:50 PM   #176 
        - you must have lived a sheltered life  G_j   Jul-25-09 02:04 PM   #178 
        - You must think way to much of your opinion  Taitertots   Jul-25-09 02:38 PM   #179 
        - Then your comprehension skills are not vey good... n/t  kirby   Jul-25-09 04:18 PM   #185 
  - With a judge  bongbong   Jul-25-09 01:06 PM   #173 
  - We were pulled over by a drunk cop once, fortunately he let us go! Then we  grahamhgreen   Jul-25-09 01:46 PM   #175 
  - I was pulled over and told I fit the description of a wanted person often  aikoaiko   Jul-25-09 02:42 PM   #181 
  - I was once involved in a violent incident involving a psycho freak.  Gwendolyn   Jul-25-09 03:23 PM   #183 
  - How cops really do things  bongbong   Jul-25-09 03:37 PM   #184 
  - I've had good and bad experiences  noamnety   Jul-25-09 08:10 PM   #188 
  - +1!!!!  readmoreoften   Jul-25-09 08:14 PM   #190 
  - Personally, yes.  DawgHouse   Jul-25-09 08:44 PM   #195 
  - Some officers consider traffic stops a dating technique  sallylou666   Jul-26-09 03:48 AM   #197 
  - 200 replies and +193 Recommends is impressive  TexasObserver   Jul-26-09 10:13 AM   #199 
  - K & R  L0oniX   Jul-26-09 10:34 AM   #200 
 

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