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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 11:22 AM
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32. The entire criminal justice system is.
systematically and fundamentally racist - starting with who law enforcement decides to bring in.

The arrest rates and incarceration rates are both disproportionate - bringing a double whammy to the black community.
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  -Is American law enforcement fundamentally racist? BurtWorm  Jul-23-09 10:21 AM   #0 
  - Bah. I only clicked this thread to see the word "tumultuous".  BlooInBloo   Jul-23-09 10:22 AM   #1 
  - Thank you for being the first to use that word in this thread.  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:25 AM   #4 
     - Be prepared for very disappointing poll results.  BlooInBloo   Jul-23-09 10:38 AM   #12 
  - As long as our law enforcement system is based on violence,  Critters2   Jul-23-09 10:22 AM   #2 
  - And Classist  Echo In Light   Jul-23-09 10:24 AM   #3 
  - Absolutely!  catbyte   Jul-23-09 10:42 AM   #18 
  - Fundamentally Racist? No... Universally Hostile and Alienating? Yes!  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Jul-23-09 10:26 AM   #5 
  - +1  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-23-09 10:45 AM   #21 
  - I'm just stunned at such a blanket statement  Donnachaidh   Jul-23-09 10:33 AM   #6 
  - The statement you are objecting to is...what?  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:34 AM   #7 
     - all law enforcement are racist.  Donnachaidh   Jul-23-09 10:38 AM   #13 
     - The question is *is* law enforcement racist: is the system racist.  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:51 AM   #23 
     - White folks commonly object when asked to call other white folks racist....  BlooInBloo   Jul-23-09 10:40 AM   #15 
        - I have no problem with it  booley   Jul-23-09 10:55 AM   #25 
  - That is just like asking are all Black folk fundamentally homophobic.  xultar   Jul-23-09 10:34 AM   #8 
  - ... and then dividing the "no" answers between three choices. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-23-09 10:36 AM   #9 
  - No, I don't think so.  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:41 AM   #16 
  - Well of course the law is for everyone so the law system isn't. But maybe some cops are but it  xultar   Jul-23-09 10:44 AM   #20 
     - Then how did we get to the point we're at?  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:55 AM   #24 
        - I think there are racist cops amongst the mostly good. I also think the black community  xultar   Jul-23-09 11:14 AM   #29 
  - Our prisons contain a disproportionate number of blacks and Latinos.  EFerrari   Jul-23-09 11:06 AM   #27 
     - That doesn't make Law Enforcement the blame...there I see poverty...or class  xultar   Jul-23-09 12:18 PM   #36 
     - This shit is deep and it isn't only about law enforcement.  EFerrari   Jul-23-09 04:55 PM   #45 
     - Like at Shawshank. Everyone there is innocent.  N7255Q   Jul-23-09 12:22 PM   #38 
        - I'm not talking about innocence, although the Innocence Project  EFerrari   Jul-23-09 04:57 PM   #46 
  - Law Enforcement as a concept, no. The practitioners...  TCJ70   Jul-23-09 10:36 AM   #10 
  - Doesn't an analysis of the way the law is enforced show that this is definitely true?  redqueen   Jul-23-09 10:37 AM   #11 
  - no  ccharles000   Jul-23-09 10:39 AM   #14 
  - Stops and arrests are ubiquitously, disproportionately biased against blacks.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-23-09 10:41 AM   #17 
  - Without question it is.  VMI Dem   Jul-23-09 10:44 AM   #19 
  - Many seem to be missing the real issue  booley   Jul-23-09 10:50 AM   #22 
  - You're right about authoritarians but racial profiling is a very real issue.  EFerrari   Jul-23-09 11:10 AM   #28 
  - It is a problem but  booley   Jul-23-09 12:43 PM   #39 
  - The question is, if Gates were white, would the outcome have been different?  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 11:15 AM   #30 
     - How tragically sad that he couldn't manage to connect those dots.  redqueen   Jul-23-09 11:16 AM   #31 
     - Yes and no.  booley   Jul-23-09 12:48 PM   #40 
        - With black men, it seems like a matter of course.  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 12:55 PM   #41 
           - The two aren't exclusive  booley   Jul-24-09 02:02 PM   #47 
  - remove two words and one letter and you have your answer  CBGLuthier   Jul-23-09 10:58 AM   #26 
  - The entire criminal justice system is.  rucky   Jul-23-09 11:22 AM   #32 
  - Course not. Grossly higher proportions of non-white people go to  daninthemoon   Jul-23-09 11:44 AM   #33 
  - It sure the hell is in many places.  hunter   Jul-23-09 11:45 AM   #34 
  - Racist, and Sexist, here  doodadem   Jul-23-09 12:00 PM   #35 
  - Anyone know what % of law enforcement is made of minorities?  timeforpeace   Jul-23-09 12:20 PM   #37 
  - I don't think the INSTITUTION is racist, but a lot of the members of that  old mark   Jul-23-09 01:10 PM   #42 
  - Yes, and what's weird is many non-white cops adopt the same attitude  Cleita   Jul-23-09 01:16 PM   #43 
  - They sure are here in Idaho  cayanne   Jul-23-09 03:05 PM   #44 
  - Yes  merh   Jul-24-09 02:05 PM   #48 
  - More classist than racist.  LostInAnomie   Jul-24-09 02:07 PM   #49 

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