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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #34
42. Reviewing the police report I have doubts about the police side of the story.
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 10:37 AM by LiberalFighter
Take a look at a map of the residence and surrounding buildings. His residence is number 7. It does not appear to be very residential. And there is a lot of space.

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  -Gates Was Arrested For Disturbing The Peace Of Sergeant Crowley?!? kpete  Jul-23-09 08:42 AM   #0 
  - I'm white and I KNOW I would have been arrested if I had acted in like manner.  winter999   Jul-23-09 08:44 AM   #1 
  - The police would most likely never have been called ...  DU9598   Jul-23-09 08:47 AM   #5 
  - It was a citizen call to a possible break-in.  winter999   Jul-23-09 08:50 AM   #11 
     - This is a 300+ year old city. EVERY house has been broken into or it is new.  slampoet   Jul-23-09 10:04 AM   #35 
     - Where does it say the house was previously burglarized...  FloriTexan   Jul-24-09 10:34 AM   #95 
  - You know that, huh. Aren't you special. Would your neighbor  babylonsister   Jul-23-09 08:49 AM   # 
  - What 'like manner' are you referring to?  peacetalksforall   Jul-23-09 08:50 AM   #12 
  - Really? Hypothetical. John Henry(white owner of the Red Sox) has just been dropped  chelsea0011   Jul-23-09 08:54 AM   #14 
  - And your arrest would be unconstitutional and unprofessional  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-23-09 08:55 AM   #15 
  - so, trying to get into your home, a cop gonna arrest you, and you arent allowed to be mad  seabeyond   Jul-23-09 09:00 AM   #20 
  - What "like manner?" Asking a question, in your own HOUSE, is against the law?  MADem   Jul-23-09 09:04 AM   #22 
  - What 'like manner' are you talking about?  MineralMan   Jul-23-09 09:10 AM   #24 
  - "The salient problem for the Cambridge Police Department is contempt of cop is simply not a crime,  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-23-09 09:30 AM   #28 
  - I doubt it.  BurtWorm   Jul-23-09 10:15 AM   #37 
  - For at least the fourth time - what "like manner"?  redqueen   Jul-23-09 12:05 PM   #47 
  - In your OWN HOME WITHOUT a WARRANT.  Lorien   Jul-24-09 10:29 AM   #92 
  - YOU wouldn't have been provoked to 'act' in like manner!  Fire1   Jul-24-09 10:30 AM   #93 
  - When did Gates private home become  malaise   Jul-23-09 08:44 AM   #2 
  - He was outside in front of a group of people.  winter999   Jul-23-09 08:46 AM   #3 
  - He was on his porch and the group of people were uninvited  Raineyb   Jul-23-09 08:48 AM   #7 
  - He was asked to come outside by the cop specifically so the cop could arrest him.  Fumesucker   Jul-23-09 08:49 AM   #10 
  - Yep. The cop wrote in his report that he wanted to go outside and said he  Blue Diadem   Jul-23-09 09:10 PM   #87 
  - Got a link? I haven't read that. Where'd you find that 'fact'? nt  babylonsister   Jul-23-09 08:55 AM   #16 
  - He was on his PORCH and the "people" were cops on his lawn, as well as  MADem   Jul-23-09 09:07 AM   #23 
     - not just "can" but "have" refuted Crowley's report. That was mentioned  quiller4   Jul-23-09 12:36 PM   #51 
  - There isn't just one ignorant cop,, there are at least 2 more in the picture  lazer47   Jul-23-09 08:47 AM   #6 
     - but they didn't support Crowley. n/t  quiller4   Jul-23-09 12:50 PM   #59 
  - Funny how his home became a public place  Raineyb   Jul-23-09 08:47 AM   #4 
  - The Police have been given tremendous latitude in "law interpretation".  annabanana   Jul-23-09 08:49 AM   #8 
  - Gate's home is a "public place" - lol, that's rich.  Morning Dew   Jul-23-09 08:49 AM   #9 
  - It is a pure case of contempt of cop  alcibiades_mystery   Jul-23-09 08:53 AM   #13 
  - Is there anything in that playbook about contempt BY cop? nt  babylonsister   Jul-23-09 08:56 AM   #17 
     - Specifically, contempt of civil liberties by cop.  backscatter712   Jul-23-09 08:59 AM   #19 
  - Prez O sez Sgt Crowley is stupid  lpbk2713   Jul-23-09 08:57 AM   #18 
  - "acted stupidly"  AwakeAtLast   Jul-23-09 09:28 AM   #27 
  - What's astounding is that this Professor's own living room and front porch  MADem   Jul-23-09 09:03 AM   #21 
  - WAY too much "You did!" - "I didn't!" going on here....  SacredCow   Jul-23-09 09:13 AM   #25 
  - Way too much "CYA" going on here.  AwakeAtLast   Jul-23-09 09:31 AM   #29 
  - Yeah, probably....  SacredCow   Jul-23-09 10:29 AM   #39 
  - Gates was not harrassed. He was ARRESTED.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-23-09 09:49 AM   #30 
     - As a 40yr old whitey who has NEVER had the cops act to my benefit, i am disturbed that ANY  slampoet   Jul-23-09 10:14 AM   #36 
     - Nice respect for those who risk their lives to save yours...  augusta march   Jul-23-09 07:11 PM   #79 
        - it's their job to risk their lives  DisgustipatedinCA   Jul-23-09 08:40 PM   #83 
        - Thank you for defending me, My mother was a cop and Hates what the police have become.  slampoet   Jul-24-09 09:13 PM   #97 
        - I didn't say elderly you double-y chromo case.  slampoet   Jul-24-09 09:16 PM   #98 
     - I've been grilled a handfull of times, personally....  SacredCow   Jul-23-09 10:26 AM   #38 
        - With you, when your identity was proved, the matter was dropped.  clear eye   Jul-24-09 09:54 AM   #89 
  - I've looked and cannot find any city ordinance or state statute that  merh   Jul-23-09 09:17 AM   #26 
  - C 272, S 53 according to the police report...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 10:02 AM   #34 
  - Well I guess the Sgt has not been properly trained then.  merh   Jul-23-09 10:34 AM   #41 
  - Wrong citation.  -..__...   Jul-23-09 11:55 AM   #45 
     - I believe you are mistaken as citations for those wrongs apply only to "in public places"  merh   Jul-23-09 12:17 PM   #49 
        - Where in MGL: C 272, S 53...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 12:26 PM   #50 
           - Like I said, the cop lacks training - he should know of this decision or  merh   Jul-23-09 12:49 PM   #57 
              - "Police presence ALONE does not satisfy the public element".  -..__...   Jul-23-09 01:32 PM   #64 
                 - Nope, there were not other members of the public present on his  merh   Jul-23-09 01:38 PM   #67 
                    - "That is the key here, on his porch".  -..__...   Jul-23-09 01:51 PM   #69 
                       - And the cop should have given him his card and gone about his business.  merh   Jul-23-09 02:18 PM   #71 
  - Reviewing the police report I have doubts about the police side of the story.  LiberalFighter   Jul-23-09 10:35 AM   #42 
     - Try Google street view...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 12:03 PM   #46 
  - "getting loud" is an interpretation for the moment in my city that can run counter to...  bridgit   Jul-23-09 01:14 PM   #60 
     - I think this case is an appropriate answer to your post.  merh   Jul-23-09 01:22 PM   #61 
     - My fiance was CHP...  bridgit   Jul-23-09 01:44 PM   #68 
        - Read the man's report, it doesn't support the arrest.  merh   Jul-23-09 02:51 PM   #75 
     - Is it all black people of a certain stature or just Professor Gates  Raineyb   Jul-23-09 01:25 PM   #62 
        - It is my belief that Cornel would have deescalated with a perceivable success...  bridgit   Jul-23-09 01:35 PM   #65 
        - Their laser focus on Skip, the UPPITY NEGRO is SO transparent.  Karenina   Jul-23-09 08:36 PM   #82 
  - IT's wrong and it happens hundreds of times every day all across the country  WeDidIt   Jul-23-09 09:51 AM   #31 
  - Cops need to be required to display better demeanor towards citizens.  LiberalFighter   Jul-23-09 09:52 AM   #32 
  - passersby were probably surprised and alarmed to see cops cuffing Professor Gates at his home  eShirl   Jul-23-09 09:55 AM   #33 
  - The residence is on campus. Makes me wonder why campus police weren't called to it initially?  LiberalFighter   Jul-23-09 10:32 AM   #40 
  - Yeah, that struck me as odd, too.... n/t  SacredCow   Jul-23-09 11:20 AM   #43 
  - His residence is just inside the campus...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 12:10 PM   #48 
     - but 911 dispatch erred by not notifying campus police. They  quiller4   Jul-23-09 12:39 PM   #53 
        - Have you even dealt with or know how dispatch operates ...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 12:46 PM   #56 
  - Racist behaviour is a misdemeanor.  Karenina   Jul-23-09 11:54 AM   #44 
  - I'm waiting to hear from his driver  ellacott   Jul-23-09 12:39 PM   #52 
  - "Surprised and alarmed" by the out of control white cop on the black homeowner?  omega minimo   Jul-23-09 12:42 PM   #54 
  - I've seen this cop and he looks much younger than Dr. Gates  Catherine Vincent   Jul-23-09 12:43 PM   #55 
  - I don't care what color they are, tenured prof's too often think they're shit don't stink  bridgit   Jul-23-09 12:50 PM   #58 
  - And that's what everyone seems to be ignoring here...  -..__...   Jul-23-09 02:23 PM   #72 
  - Gates was wrong  Taitertots   Jul-23-09 01:27 PM   #63 
  - Police behavior is not "natural" - They aren't like tigers or bulls.  bigmonkey   Jul-23-09 01:52 PM   #70 
  - He wasn't just being disagreeable  Taitertots   Jul-23-09 02:33 PM   #73 
     - Crowley didn't behave that way.  bigmonkey   Jul-23-09 02:54 PM   #76 
     - Ok, Don Quixote, keep fighting those windmills  Taitertots   Jul-23-09 08:21 PM   #80 
        - "Like it or not the police have authority over you"  bigmonkey   Jul-23-09 11:47 PM   #88 
     - sure you have  DisgustipatedinCA   Jul-23-09 08:46 PM   #85 
        - If you don't act like a Gates, they don't give you shit  Taitertots   Jul-23-09 08:59 PM   #86 
  - "The difference is that I was calm, respectful and pleasant."  clear eye   Jul-24-09 10:23 AM   #91 
  - He was in his OWN HOUSE. nt.  sam kane   Jul-24-09 10:33 AM   #94 
  - Translation: Questioning Sgt Oink's Misconduct  TexasObserver   Jul-23-09 01:36 PM   #66 
  - and charges are dropped and unless you have $$ and threaten  quiller4   Jul-23-09 02:40 PM   #74 
  - Get the fuck out Crowley. Seriously. Get the fuck out.  BlooInBloo   Jul-23-09 06:44 PM   #77 
  - Yeah...there are these wacky things called guns and people sometimes shoot them  augusta march   Jul-23-09 06:47 PM   #78 
  - Here is a link to the actual police report by Crowley  Gothmog   Jul-23-09 08:33 PM   #81 
  - Sergeant James Crowley is fast on his way to becoming  Karenina   Jul-23-09 08:45 PM   #84 
  - Well this sure got unrec'd, didn't it?  redqueen   Jul-24-09 09:57 AM   #90 
  - 'SOME' people can't handle the truth and MANY don't give  Fire1   Jul-24-09 10:38 AM   #96 
  - Gates was arrested for ..."Contempt of Cop".....  lib2DaBone   Jul-24-09 09:24 PM   #99 

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