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Thu Jul-23-09 08:57 AM
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| 18. Prez O sez Sgt Crowley is stupid |
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He said it live on national TV.  |
| -Gates Was Arrested For Disturbing The Peace Of Sergeant Crowley?!? |
kpete |
Jul-23-09 08:42 AM |
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I'm white and I KNOW I would have been arrested if I had acted in like manner. |
winter999 |
Jul-23-09 08:44 AM |
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The police would most likely never have been called ... |
DU9598 |
Jul-23-09 08:47 AM |
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It was a citizen call to a possible break-in. |
winter999 |
Jul-23-09 08:50 AM |
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This is a 300+ year old city. EVERY house has been broken into or it is new. |
slampoet |
Jul-23-09 10:04 AM |
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Where does it say the house was previously burglarized... |
FloriTexan |
Jul-24-09 10:34 AM |
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You know that, huh. Aren't you special. Would your neighbor |
babylonsister |
Jul-23-09 08:49 AM |
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What 'like manner' are you referring to? |
peacetalksforall |
Jul-23-09 08:50 AM |
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Really? Hypothetical. John Henry(white owner of the Red Sox) has just been dropped |
chelsea0011 |
Jul-23-09 08:54 AM |
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And your arrest would be unconstitutional and unprofessional |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-23-09 08:55 AM |
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so, trying to get into your home, a cop gonna arrest you, and you arent allowed to be mad |
seabeyond |
Jul-23-09 09:00 AM |
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What "like manner?" Asking a question, in your own HOUSE, is against the law? |
MADem |
Jul-23-09 09:04 AM |
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What 'like manner' are you talking about? |
MineralMan |
Jul-23-09 09:10 AM |
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"The salient problem for the Cambridge Police Department is contempt of cop is simply not a crime, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-23-09 09:30 AM |
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I doubt it. |
BurtWorm |
Jul-23-09 10:15 AM |
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For at least the fourth time - what "like manner"? |
redqueen |
Jul-23-09 12:05 PM |
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In your OWN HOME WITHOUT a WARRANT. |
Lorien |
Jul-24-09 10:29 AM |
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YOU wouldn't have been provoked to 'act' in like manner! |
Fire1 |
Jul-24-09 10:30 AM |
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When did Gates private home become |
malaise |
Jul-23-09 08:44 AM |
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He was outside in front of a group of people. |
winter999 |
Jul-23-09 08:46 AM |
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He was on his porch and the group of people were uninvited |
Raineyb |
Jul-23-09 08:48 AM |
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He was asked to come outside by the cop specifically so the cop could arrest him. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-23-09 08:49 AM |
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Yep. The cop wrote in his report that he wanted to go outside and said he |
Blue Diadem |
Jul-23-09 09:10 PM |
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Got a link? I haven't read that. Where'd you find that 'fact'? nt |
babylonsister |
Jul-23-09 08:55 AM |
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He was on his PORCH and the "people" were cops on his lawn, as well as |
MADem |
Jul-23-09 09:07 AM |
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not just "can" but "have" refuted Crowley's report. That was mentioned |
quiller4 |
Jul-23-09 12:36 PM |
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There isn't just one ignorant cop,, there are at least 2 more in the picture |
lazer47 |
Jul-23-09 08:47 AM |
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but they didn't support Crowley. n/t |
quiller4 |
Jul-23-09 12:50 PM |
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Funny how his home became a public place |
Raineyb |
Jul-23-09 08:47 AM |
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The Police have been given tremendous latitude in "law interpretation". |
annabanana |
Jul-23-09 08:49 AM |
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Gate's home is a "public place" - lol, that's rich. |
Morning Dew |
Jul-23-09 08:49 AM |
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It is a pure case of contempt of cop |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-23-09 08:53 AM |
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Is there anything in that playbook about contempt BY cop? nt |
babylonsister |
Jul-23-09 08:56 AM |
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Specifically, contempt of civil liberties by cop. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-23-09 08:59 AM |
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Prez O sez Sgt Crowley is stupid |
lpbk2713 |
Jul-23-09 08:57 AM |
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"acted stupidly" |
AwakeAtLast |
Jul-23-09 09:28 AM |
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What's astounding is that this Professor's own living room and front porch |
MADem |
Jul-23-09 09:03 AM |
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WAY too much "You did!" - "I didn't!" going on here.... |
SacredCow |
Jul-23-09 09:13 AM |
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Way too much "CYA" going on here. |
AwakeAtLast |
Jul-23-09 09:31 AM |
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Yeah, probably.... |
SacredCow |
Jul-23-09 10:29 AM |
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Gates was not harrassed. He was ARRESTED. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-23-09 09:49 AM |
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As a 40yr old whitey who has NEVER had the cops act to my benefit, i am disturbed that ANY |
slampoet |
Jul-23-09 10:14 AM |
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Nice respect for those who risk their lives to save yours... |
augusta march |
Jul-23-09 07:11 PM |
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it's their job to risk their lives |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Jul-23-09 08:40 PM |
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Thank you for defending me, My mother was a cop and Hates what the police have become. |
slampoet |
Jul-24-09 09:13 PM |
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I didn't say elderly you double-y chromo case. |
slampoet |
Jul-24-09 09:16 PM |
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I've been grilled a handfull of times, personally.... |
SacredCow |
Jul-23-09 10:26 AM |
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With you, when your identity was proved, the matter was dropped. |
clear eye |
Jul-24-09 09:54 AM |
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I've looked and cannot find any city ordinance or state statute that |
merh |
Jul-23-09 09:17 AM |
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C 272, S 53 according to the police report... |
-..__... |
Jul-23-09 10:02 AM |
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Well I guess the Sgt has not been properly trained then. |
merh |
Jul-23-09 10:34 AM |
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Wrong citation. |
-..__... |
Jul-23-09 11:55 AM |
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I believe you are mistaken as citations for those wrongs apply only to "in public places" |
merh |
Jul-23-09 12:17 PM |
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Where in MGL: C 272, S 53... |
-..__... |
Jul-23-09 12:26 PM |
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Like I said, the cop lacks training - he should know of this decision or |
merh |
Jul-23-09 12:49 PM |
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"Police presence ALONE does not satisfy the public element". |
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Jul-23-09 01:32 PM |
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Nope, there were not other members of the public present on his |
merh |
Jul-23-09 01:38 PM |
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"That is the key here, on his porch". |
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Jul-23-09 01:51 PM |
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And the cop should have given him his card and gone about his business. |
merh |
Jul-23-09 02:18 PM |
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Reviewing the police report I have doubts about the police side of the story. |
LiberalFighter |
Jul-23-09 10:35 AM |
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Try Google street view... |
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Jul-23-09 12:03 PM |
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"getting loud" is an interpretation for the moment in my city that can run counter to... |
bridgit |
Jul-23-09 01:14 PM |
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I think this case is an appropriate answer to your post. |
merh |
Jul-23-09 01:22 PM |
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My fiance was CHP... |
bridgit |
Jul-23-09 01:44 PM |
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Read the man's report, it doesn't support the arrest. |
merh |
Jul-23-09 02:51 PM |
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Is it all black people of a certain stature or just Professor Gates |
Raineyb |
Jul-23-09 01:25 PM |
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It is my belief that Cornel would have deescalated with a perceivable success... |
bridgit |
Jul-23-09 01:35 PM |
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Their laser focus on Skip, the UPPITY NEGRO is SO transparent. |
Karenina |
Jul-23-09 08:36 PM |
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IT's wrong and it happens hundreds of times every day all across the country |
WeDidIt |
Jul-23-09 09:51 AM |
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Cops need to be required to display better demeanor towards citizens. |
LiberalFighter |
Jul-23-09 09:52 AM |
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passersby were probably surprised and alarmed to see cops cuffing Professor Gates at his home |
eShirl |
Jul-23-09 09:55 AM |
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The residence is on campus. Makes me wonder why campus police weren't called to it initially? |
LiberalFighter |
Jul-23-09 10:32 AM |
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Yeah, that struck me as odd, too.... n/t |
SacredCow |
Jul-23-09 11:20 AM |
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His residence is just inside the campus... |
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Jul-23-09 12:10 PM |
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but 911 dispatch erred by not notifying campus police. They |
quiller4 |
Jul-23-09 12:39 PM |
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Have you even dealt with or know how dispatch operates ... |
-..__... |
Jul-23-09 12:46 PM |
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Racist behaviour is a misdemeanor. |
Karenina |
Jul-23-09 11:54 AM |
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I'm waiting to hear from his driver |
ellacott |
Jul-23-09 12:39 PM |
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"Surprised and alarmed" by the out of control white cop on the black homeowner? |
omega minimo |
Jul-23-09 12:42 PM |
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I've seen this cop and he looks much younger than Dr. Gates |
Catherine Vincent |
Jul-23-09 12:43 PM |
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I don't care what color they are, tenured prof's too often think they're shit don't stink |
bridgit |
Jul-23-09 12:50 PM |
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And that's what everyone seems to be ignoring here... |
-..__... |
Jul-23-09 02:23 PM |
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Gates was wrong |
Taitertots |
Jul-23-09 01:27 PM |
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Police behavior is not "natural" - They aren't like tigers or bulls. |
bigmonkey |
Jul-23-09 01:52 PM |
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He wasn't just being disagreeable |
Taitertots |
Jul-23-09 02:33 PM |
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Crowley didn't behave that way. |
bigmonkey |
Jul-23-09 02:54 PM |
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Ok, Don Quixote, keep fighting those windmills |
Taitertots |
Jul-23-09 08:21 PM |
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"Like it or not the police have authority over you" |
bigmonkey |
Jul-23-09 11:47 PM |
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sure you have |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Jul-23-09 08:46 PM |
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If you don't act like a Gates, they don't give you shit |
Taitertots |
Jul-23-09 08:59 PM |
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"The difference is that I was calm, respectful and pleasant." |
clear eye |
Jul-24-09 10:23 AM |
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He was in his OWN HOUSE. nt. |
sam kane |
Jul-24-09 10:33 AM |
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Translation: Questioning Sgt Oink's Misconduct |
TexasObserver |
Jul-23-09 01:36 PM |
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and charges are dropped and unless you have $$ and threaten |
quiller4 |
Jul-23-09 02:40 PM |
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Get the fuck out Crowley. Seriously. Get the fuck out. |
BlooInBloo |
Jul-23-09 06:44 PM |
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Yeah...there are these wacky things called guns and people sometimes shoot them |
augusta march |
Jul-23-09 06:47 PM |
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Here is a link to the actual police report by Crowley |
Gothmog |
Jul-23-09 08:33 PM |
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Sergeant James Crowley is fast on his way to becoming |
Karenina |
Jul-23-09 08:45 PM |
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Well this sure got unrec'd, didn't it? |
redqueen |
Jul-24-09 09:57 AM |
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'SOME' people can't handle the truth and MANY don't give |
Fire1 |
Jul-24-09 10:38 AM |
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Gates was arrested for ..."Contempt of Cop"..... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-24-09 09:24 PM |
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