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22. Eliminate the stigma that goes with it, rebuild self-esteem, create WPA/NRA-class programs...
.. and not just the ditch digging kind, but the ones FDR's administration created to get writers writing, artists painting and sculpting, actors acting and so forth. In other words, support creativity rather than simply create a new generation of draft animals for the corporate fuckos to exploit, ala the prison-industrial complex.

Saint Raygun was a genius at making it fashionable to hate the poor. And I know it's damn near impossible to climb out of the poverty hole if you actually internalize all that crap and degenerate into self-loathing.

Huge sums of money are required so jack the marginal tax rate on unearned income (how the rich make their money) to the moon. Penalize the shit out of them every time they even think about closing a perfectly good US manufacturing plant or factory and moving the jobs overseas.

Pass the employee free choice act and jack union membership up into the 80+ percent range by organizing office workers as well as blue-collar building trades workers.

Put union-busting law firms out of business using RICO statutes.

Go to proportional representation, make federal money available to dozens of political parties, break the stranglehold the Republicrats have on national politics and make all presidents endure a weekly grilling just like the British PM must undergo in Parliament -- all on live TV with no voice-overs or pundit interpretation for those of us too stupid to figure out what was just said.

Break up corporate media yesterday using existing monopoly-busting legislation like the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.

Take back the money Wall St. stole from the treasury, forcibly if necessary, and reallocate it to create more good-paying jobs. Then arrest, try and convict the thieving bastards who conspired to clean out the US treasury. And quickly, before they can flee the country to their various island homes located in tax- and extradition-free banana republics throughout the Caribbean.

Admit the minimum wage is a fucking joke. Pass "living wage" legislation locally, statewide and at the federal level. Abolish "right to work" laws. Reverse "privatization" wherever it rears its ugly head.

Get out of the war business and use the money to promote "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" among the least of us.

End the phony drug war and the even phonier war on (some) terrorists and use the money as above.

Go to single-payer, universal access health care, with complete portability so that people can leave their jobs, go back to school, learn new trades, decide to work in a field more in tune with their value systems, and so forth -- all without the goddamn corporate world using their current hammer of "no job; no medical insurance," thus creating wage slaves for life.

Fire every single member of congress and the administration who's taken more money from corporations than from unions and/or progressive issue advocacy groups over the course of their political careers.

Impeach the wingnuts on the Supreme Court -- federalist society pollutants all -- and purge their corporatist kindred spirits now befouling federal benches all across the country.

Bring Cheeeney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Yoo, Addington, Tenet, Bolton (the pair) and a couple dozen more of the worst of the worst up on charges of treason and send them to the scaffold -- after a series of fair and very public trials, of course.

The latter won't help the poor get out of poverty, but it'll make a whole lot of people -- here and around the world -- feel awfully good for a few days.

Btw, none of this can possibly happen, or work politically, unless the country abandons the current bribocratic kleptocracy model and goes with public financing of campaigns. Absent their obscene influence peddling and $100K a plate fund-raising soirees, the swine pretending to comprise a congress may actually find it within themselves to occasionally remember who they're supposed to represent.

Arrest the entire Bush International Crime Cartel and hold them indefinitely without charges, bail, access to lawyers or even a lousy phone call.

Damn... that was fun. And that's maybe 2 percent of the steps an enlightened country might take to improve the lives of its citizens. Unfortunately, the US is not that kind of place.


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  So what's the best way to tackle poverty? Telly Savalas  Jul-21-09 08:16 PM   #0 
   It's been an issue since man first crawled out of the ooze.  virgogal   Jul-21-09 08:19 PM   #1 
   Dead is dead.  bobbolink   Jul-21-09 08:20 PM   #2 
   Keynes advocated taking money from the wealthy  seeviewonder   Jul-21-09 08:42 PM   #8 
      How would it "work", exactly? Does it require every person to be 100% equally wealthy?  N7255Q   Jul-21-09 09:22 PM   #21 
         Good question...  seeviewonder   Jul-22-09 12:02 AM   #53 
   The same thing can be said of disease.  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-09 08:31 PM   #5 
      Ok, you're a wild-eyed idealist. I like that in a person. ^_^ If I'm reading you right,  bobbolink   Jul-22-09 04:22 PM   #85 
   The pubs are addressing poverty by making it more accessible to us all.  lob1   Jul-21-09 08:20 PM   #3 
   Know your neighbors, we do not do this in the US.  rwheeler31   Jul-21-09 08:25 PM   #4 
   Poverty is like crime or illness. We will never completely eliminate it.  MercutioATC   Jul-21-09 08:32 PM   #6 
   I agree we will never eliminate it.  lexanman   Jul-22-09 01:53 AM   #61 
   Take from the rich  JVS   Jul-21-09 08:32 PM   #7 
   tiresome  imdjh   Jul-21-09 08:49 PM   #13 
   Get together and help.  rwheeler31   Jul-21-09 08:42 PM   #9 
   Three step plan.  Carl Skan   Jul-21-09 08:43 PM   #10 
   You are so correct, teach women world wide .  rwheeler31   Jul-21-09 08:54 PM   #16 
   It doesn't take a doctorate to clean a toilet, fix a pot hole, or pick up the trash.  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-09 09:18 PM   #19 
      It does take education for somebody...  Carl Skan   Jul-21-09 09:27 PM   #23 
      I despise utopian thinking.  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-09 09:40 PM   #27 
      You hire a plumber lately?  XemaSab   Jul-22-09 03:25 AM   #69 
   Large scale public works projects and related changes to welfare benefits.  imdjh   Jul-21-09 08:44 PM   #11 
   As private citizens, we need to reject the idea  varelse   Jul-21-09 08:48 PM   #12 
   Would you vote for a politician who...  Carl Skan   Jul-21-09 08:51 PM   #14 
   blame, fault, and responsibility  imdjh   Jul-21-09 09:11 PM   #18 
   I always get my change back properly  Juche   Jul-21-09 09:57 PM   #34 
      I can't tell you the last time I was handed my change properly.  imdjh   Jul-21-09 10:07 PM   #38 
         I agree  Juche   Jul-21-09 10:13 PM   #40 
            lol, no respect for the proper way, another problem  imdjh   Jul-21-09 10:15 PM   #42 
               Why is it the proper way?  Juche   Jul-21-09 10:18 PM   #44 
                  Because the coin doesn't spill, but also because of the even older and mostly forgotten tradition  imdjh   Jul-21-09 10:31 PM   #47 
                     Once upon a time, that was fundamental to being trusted to handle cash in any retail.  TahitiNut   Jul-22-09 01:45 AM   #59 
   I don't agree  Juche   Jul-21-09 10:03 PM   #37 
      Wages are kept stagnant while immense wealth accumulates  varelse   Jul-21-09 10:24 PM   #45 
      I agree with most of it.  Juche   Jul-21-09 10:33 PM   #48 
      Juche, your profile doesn't give much info but I'll take on some points  tech3149   Jul-21-09 10:46 PM   #52 
   We need to get at least 80% of the people in the top 50% of income.  Speck Tater   Jul-21-09 08:52 PM   #15 
   Or perhaps we should make sure the bottom 5% of income  Telly Savalas   Jul-21-09 09:20 PM   #20 
      Women and children know how to try to  rwheeler31   Jul-21-09 09:44 PM   #28 
      I agree. Everyone should be assured of at least the basic necessities. nt  Speck Tater   Jul-22-09 01:38 AM   #57 
   some good stuff here:  G_j   Jul-21-09 08:55 PM   #17 
   Thank you for the link to a new resource  varelse   Jul-21-09 10:33 PM   #49 
   Eliminate the stigma that goes with it, rebuild self-esteem, create WPA/NRA-class programs...  warren pease   Jul-21-09 09:27 PM   #22 
   Great post! nt  raccoon   Jul-22-09 09:03 AM   #78 
   Guaranteed minimum income, affordable shelter, affordable access to food  ipaint   Jul-21-09 09:30 PM   #24 
   The question should be how do we solve the problem of the wealth hoarders  varelse   Jul-21-09 09:50 PM   #30 
   Funny how that "personal responsibility" meme works...  ipaint   Jul-21-09 09:56 PM   #33 
   We (Americans) seem to have largely lost the sense of civic responsibility  varelse   Jul-21-09 09:59 PM   #36 
      I agree.  ipaint   Jul-21-09 10:11 PM   #39 
         Some of us are so jaded we no longer feel even phantom pain  varelse   Jul-21-09 10:26 PM   #46 
   Wealth tax.  burning rain   Jul-21-09 10:43 PM   #50 
      Got to pass the law though and  varelse   Jul-21-09 10:46 PM   #51 
   I agree with income, shelter, food, and health care, and I would add education  XemaSab   Jul-22-09 03:35 AM   #71 
   We must teach out kids that the poor are not poor because of "poor character" and "laziness".  Odin2005   Jul-21-09 09:31 PM   #25 
   I say equal access to a good education  ecstatic   Jul-21-09 09:34 PM   #26 
   I think we should use George Carlin's idea and build low-cost housing on golf courses.  Initech   Jul-21-09 09:44 PM   #29 
   Depends on the causes  Juche   Jul-21-09 09:51 PM   #31 
   End the wars, using the money to feed and house the poor, and give them health insurance. It's all  timeforpeace   Jul-21-09 09:53 PM   #32 
   Many good answers to your post  tech3149   Jul-21-09 09:58 PM   #35 
   Give more money to people that don't have enough?  bemildred   Jul-21-09 10:15 PM   #41 
   JOBS  Skittles   Jul-21-09 10:17 PM   #43 
   "JOBS" do nothing for the disabled poor  Naturyl   Jul-22-09 07:59 AM   #75 
   Redistributing some of the wealth from the richest to the poorest.  TexasObserver   Jul-22-09 12:32 AM   #54 
   Poverty could end tomorrow  Hydra   Jul-22-09 12:40 AM   #55 
   +100  Naturyl   Jul-22-09 08:00 AM   #76 
   T/Y :D  Hydra   Jul-22-09 02:47 PM   #83 
   Average work week is now around 33 hours Hydra  Kid Dynamite   Jul-22-09 09:07 AM   #80 
      Are people getting paid more to work less?  Hydra   Jul-22-09 02:47 PM   #82 
         How do "we" pay people correctly?  Kid Dynamite   Jul-22-09 04:21 PM   #84 
            How would you prefer to do it?  Hydra   Jul-22-09 05:38 PM   #86 
               I am questioning the premise  Kid Dynamite   Jul-22-09 05:57 PM   #87 
   Bank robbery.  troubledamerican   Jul-22-09 12:48 AM   #56 
   Start revoking some corporate charters...  sutz12   Jul-22-09 01:42 AM   #58 
   Dumping the poor all in one place doesn't help matters.  SmileyRose   Jul-22-09 01:52 AM   #60 
   Abundant energy, education, access to healthcare, universal internet access (no access no jobs),  TheKentuckian   Jul-22-09 02:07 AM   #62 
   Housing costs.  LeftyMom   Jul-22-09 02:11 AM   #63 
   And of course medical costs, too. Even the cost of a filling or tooth extraction,  raccoon   Jul-22-09 09:05 AM   #79 
   Guillotines n/t  leftstreet   Jul-22-09 02:21 AM   #64 
   create jobs that pay a middle-class wage for that area, customize jobs  KakistocracyHater   Jul-22-09 02:46 AM   #65 
   Single payer healrh care. Wealth tax. Investing in new green collar jobs  eridani   Jul-22-09 02:55 AM   #66 
   Full employment to start with.  KillCapitalism   Jul-22-09 02:58 AM   #67 
   DON'T INTENTIONALLY DISMANTLE THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET LIKE REAGANISM DID  omega minimo   Jul-22-09 03:08 AM   #68 
   Get Rid of Social Security, Disability, and Unemployment Insurance  LAGC   Jul-22-09 03:28 AM   #70 
   Rich people hoard money, others hoard food  SoCalDem   Jul-22-09 04:11 AM   #72 
   you've got to be kidding, right?  harmonicon   Jul-22-09 06:10 AM   #73 
   Gauranteed Minimum Income  Naturyl   Jul-22-09 07:50 AM   #74 
   step one  melm00se   Jul-22-09 09:03 AM   #77 
   Remember the "official" poverty figures are way on the low side,  raccoon   Jul-22-09 09:10 AM   #81 
   Here are some critical pieces:  LWolf   Jul-22-09 10:46 PM   #88 
   Housing for all...  maryf   Jul-22-09 10:48 PM   #89 
   The matter of poverty has simple solutions.  Ani Yun Wiya   Jul-23-09 02:17 PM   #90 
 

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