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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 07:03 PM
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37. here is the thing
there are folks who still hate - seriously hate - based on race. If they listen to this schtick (and there appear to be MANY examples of such racial slurs used on this show), they get the idea that implicitly their vile hatred is not only socially acceptable - that its cool. In and of itself this just perpetuates the racist attitudes that are still pervasive throughout our society which is bad enough. And in the worse case scenario this is emboldening to the mentally unhinged person who harbors such deep seated racial hatred - as it gives the idea that if one acted (violently) on this hatred that it would not only be okay by others but even applauded. Not saying that is true (the applauded part) but it is the message sent when ongoing racial hatred ala dismissive, stereotypes that are demeaning and dehumanizing work to empower, esp when a popular figure with a big media mouthpiece push such tripe on a frequent basis.

But if boosting a national figure's show and his regular use of racially demeaning language is cool with someone - and that person thinks that the criticisms are unfair and that every black person who speaks out against it is worthy of derision (refering to an earlier post in this thread) - than I guess that is okay - as it is revealing to other readers.
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  -Whoa, did you hear abut what Imus and his minions have said about DemBones DemBones  Apr-09-07 05:38 PM   #0 
  - I did transcribe some of what Sharpton said, using my TiVo to back up and  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 05:40 PM   #1 
  - great point - if Jackson gets fined for flashing some booby  NormanYorkstein   Apr-09-07 05:41 PM   #2 
     - Hmm let me think  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:46 PM   #5 
     - What an interesting post. So you agree with the GOP that children  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 05:52 PM   #9 
     - Uh, I would argue that MLK (a hero) and Al Sharpton are  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:54 PM   #16 
     - I agree with them that it could have been damaging, yes.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:57 PM   #19 
        - Are you a parent? I am and can't imagine a child being traumatized  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 06:25 PM   #27 
        - I remember when I was a young teen  hfojvt   Apr-09-07 10:11 PM   #78 
           - Unfortunately,  bumblebee1   Apr-11-07 01:08 AM   #93 
        - oh my god yes  frogcycle   Apr-09-07 10:19 PM   #81 
     - Thanks for letting us know who YOU are.  Karenina   Apr-09-07 05:52 PM   #10 
     - I was trying to think of how to say that best. You did it so well.  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 05:53 PM   #13 
     - Yes.. I disagree with you so I must be a Freeper! Or just an idiot.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:58 PM   #22 
        - I'll go with idiot.  CatWoman   Apr-10-07 07:25 PM   #82 
           - I'll Go With Denialist Idiot  wellst0nev0ter   Apr-10-07 08:13 PM   #86 
     - Believe me, I'm laughing at you too  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:55 PM   #18 
        - Hysterical people tend to do that.  CatWoman   Apr-10-07 07:35 PM   #83 
     - And Imus doesn't want publicity...  butterfly77   Apr-09-07 05:52 PM   #11 
     - You know for a fact that Janet's boob-flash was intentional?  americanstranger   Apr-09-07 05:53 PM   #12 
     - Holy crap!  Blue State Native   Apr-09-07 05:59 PM   #23 
     - not a mistake - a pattern of behavior  salin   Apr-09-07 06:54 PM   #36 
     - Was that in the same show as the remark he's under fire for?  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 07:13 PM   #41 
     - Same transcript.  salin   Apr-09-07 07:25 PM   #44 
        - Good grief. Someone posted the other night  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 08:37 PM   #55 
        - I posted the video clip (ala media matters) below.  salin   Apr-09-07 09:25 PM   #62 
        - Don't just look for the reference from another thread  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 08:48 PM   #58 
           - Here is the video clip  salin   Apr-09-07 09:23 PM   #61 
     - I haven't heard the jigaboos thing which is supposedly  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 08:47 PM   #57 
        - I posted a link on the other thread where you asked about this  salin   Apr-09-07 09:29 PM   #64 
           - Well--- HE didn't say it. The sidekick referenced a Spike Lee Joint.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 09:40 PM   #66 
              - right  salin   Apr-09-07 09:53 PM   #71 
              - It's His Show It's His Producer  munkie   Apr-10-07 08:04 PM   #85 
              - I Never Heard The Word "Jigaboos vs Wannabes" In "Do The Right Thing"  wellst0nev0ter   Apr-10-07 08:17 PM   #87 
     - LL1973 -  Scout1071   Apr-09-07 09:45 PM   #70 
     - I watch it about 4 times a month  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 09:54 PM   #72 
     - how sad.  Bluerthanblue   Apr-09-07 10:02 PM   #76 
     - But, the issue is not about al sharpton...  butterfly77   Apr-11-07 02:26 PM   #100 
     - Yeah showing a tit is really hurting kids these days  fujiyama   Apr-11-07 06:52 PM   #102 
     - Janet Jackson,  beltanefauve   Apr-11-07 10:58 PM   #108 
  - He, Imus, said he's on a 'contrition mission'  MADem   Apr-09-07 05:43 PM   #3 
  - He has been suspended for two weeks.  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 05:47 PM   #6 
     - Sure... lets fire the guy who  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:54 PM   #14 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-09-07 06:04 PM   #25 
     - You realize that because I disagree with you, telling me to roll on over  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 06:09 PM   #26 
        - I didn't tell you to go there, I just said you'd probably find people  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 06:33 PM   #31 
           - Ugh, I hate Joe Lieberman too but I'm still a Democrat.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 06:45 PM   #33 
              - From all that you have posted about Imus's good works,  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 07:11 PM   #40 
              - So, using your logic --  Morgana LaFey   Apr-09-07 07:44 PM   #48 
              - Way to go with the DRAMA. he said something dumb- he didn't murder  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 08:46 PM   #56 
                 - forget the drama (ala "killing") but seriously, what did these  salin   Apr-09-07 09:34 PM   #65 
                    - The girls didn't do anything to deserve what he said.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 09:42 PM   #67 
                       - think of it not as a single comment  salin   Apr-09-07 10:01 PM   #75 
              - Libra  BronxBoy   Apr-11-07 01:41 PM   #98 
              - This isn't about what "good he does"  fujiyama   Apr-11-07 07:04 PM   #103 
     - You and me both, LibraLiz  skooooo   Apr-09-07 06:28 PM   #29 
     - here is the thing  salin   Apr-09-07 07:03 PM   #37 
     - Good points. Imus may not be racist or sexist himself, we can't  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 07:20 PM   #43 
        - especially when it is chronic  salin   Apr-09-07 07:31 PM   #46 
        - No, we can pretty much know he's racist and sexist because  Morgana LaFey   Apr-09-07 07:47 PM   #50 
        - That's a great point  NormanYorkstein   Apr-09-07 07:52 PM   #51 
     - 7. Worships Rick Santorum  proud2Blib   Apr-09-07 07:45 PM   #49 
     - his show, simulcast on MSNBC, is being suspended  dweller   Apr-09-07 05:55 PM   #17 
     - I honestly think it won't work. But you never know. Imus provides a venue for  MADem   Apr-09-07 05:57 PM   #20 
        - Why did the Clintons invite him to speak at the 96 Radio & TV Correspondents Dinner?  NYCGirl   Apr-09-07 06:33 PM   #30 
        - They didn't invite him. The RTVC party planners did.  MADem   Apr-09-07 06:45 PM   #34 
        - Oh, I'd like to see him atoning, too, but think there  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 07:05 PM   #38 
  - Don Imus has been a republican jack ass  Bitwit1234   Apr-09-07 05:44 PM   #4 
  - Yes he MUST be silenced because we disagree with him politcally  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:47 PM   #7 
     - Imus' worst offense in my book:  americanstranger   Apr-09-07 05:52 PM   #8 
     - I gotta go with you on the "not funny" thing  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 05:57 PM   #21 
     - Now we know where you stand. nt  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 05:54 PM   #15 
     - I'm happy to tell you where I stand because I am proud of it.  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 06:01 PM   #24 
        - Trashing the memory of Gerald Ford? WTF?  KAZ   Apr-09-07 07:53 PM   #53 
           - I don't remember that, either, though I think people recalled that  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 08:33 PM   #54 
           - Your C L U E L E S S  LibraLiz1973   Apr-09-07 09:44 PM   #69 
     - Answer to your question...  skooooo   Apr-09-07 06:27 PM   #28 
     - Fucking right!  liberalnurse   Apr-09-07 06:42 PM   #32 
     - Silenced?  DefenseLawyer   Apr-09-07 07:18 PM   #42 
  - Tell you one thing, Cohen's wife is one gorgeous woman.  Kahuna   Apr-09-07 06:46 PM   #35 
  - It SLAYS me that in 2007, the offense of marrying a (former) public  salin   Apr-09-07 07:09 PM   #39 
  - Yes, hearing people defend Imus, as McCain and Carville did,  DemBones DemBones   Apr-09-07 07:27 PM   #45 
     - Sadly, I don't think it signals that they are acting as if those things  salin   Apr-09-07 07:36 PM   #47 
  - And it was necessary to introduce THAT bit o' sexism -- why, exactly?  Morgana LaFey   Apr-09-07 07:52 PM   #52 
  - I dunno, I saw them interviewed once, and my reaction to her was "WOWSERS! That's one spicy tomato!"  Bucky   Apr-09-07 08:56 PM   #60 
  - and probably racist as well  Morgana LaFey   Apr-09-07 09:56 PM   #74 
  - The poster is female.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-09-07 09:26 PM   #63 
  - I explained why it's sexist  Morgana LaFey   Apr-09-07 09:55 PM   #73 
     - But the poster didn't diminish Cohen's other qualities.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-09-07 10:09 PM   #77 
     - It's NOT possible to intoduce one's physical qualities as a woman  Morgana LaFey   Apr-10-07 11:22 PM   #88 
        - I'll never mention a woman's beauty again.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-10-07 11:42 PM   #89 
           - THINK whatever you want; TALK about her intelligence, kindness,  Morgana LaFey   Apr-11-07 12:16 AM   #91 
              - How about I refer to all of those things?  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-11-07 12:30 AM   #92 
                 - How about you GET IT about sexism??  Morgana LaFey   Apr-11-07 01:17 PM   #97 
                    - I do get it.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-11-07 02:03 PM   #99 
                       - This IS real sexism -- there is no dividing line between what's  Morgana LaFey   Apr-11-07 06:35 PM   #101 
                          - Oh, please.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-11-07 07:05 PM   #104 
                             - Don't be ridiculous.  Morgana LaFey   Apr-11-07 10:09 PM   #105 
                                - I understand objectification.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-11-07 10:35 PM   #107 
     - You've got that right. People need to act as if they've been somewhere.  Judi Lynn   Apr-09-07 10:14 PM   #79 
     - Of course the world is more than surfaces.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-09-07 10:17 PM   #80 
     - What's wrong with being physically attractive?  quantessd   Apr-11-07 01:25 AM   #95 
  - the poster has said the same thing male figures she finds attractive  JI7   Apr-10-07 11:47 PM   #90 
  - In the 1970s, Janet Langhart was on television with John Willis on a morning show in Boston.  Radio_Lady   Apr-11-07 02:02 AM   #96 
  - not til now. But I did hear today what he said about Gwen Ifill once  stuntcat   Apr-09-07 08:52 PM   #59 
  - He called Gwen Ifill "the cleaning Lady" during the Reagan Years.  Perragrande   Apr-11-07 10:25 PM   #106 
  - Imus has always been a shitstain  ZombyWoof   Apr-09-07 09:43 PM   #68 
  - Woof!  DemBones DemBones   Apr-10-07 08:01 PM   #84 
  - The book is out  question everything   Apr-11-07 01:13 AM   #94 

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