suston96
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Jul-21-09 01:53 PM
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All technology and science piggybacks. No one is dumb enough to try to reinvent the wheel.
The Boeing 707 was created by the US Air Force as a tanker? and then the technology was given for free to Boeing.
Practically all Research and Development in military technology ended up in civilian hands where we are all enjoying the products of what we paid for as taxpayers funding military and space programs.
Ever heard of Tang?
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Are the moon landings tainted because the technology piggy-backed on the U.S. nuclear program? |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 01:42 PM |
#0 |

Military program? The Apollo program was a great accomplishment. |
FSogol |
Jul-21-09 01:46 PM |
#1 |
 
going to the moon was more about the cold war than space exploration. |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-21-09 01:48 PM |
#4 |
  
Indeed. |
Robb |
Jul-21-09 02:16 PM |
#22 |
 
Yeah, creating technology that wasn't even good for one generation is always a good investment. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 01:49 PM |
#5 |

the spin off from apollo includes the web and the pc |
endarkenment |
Jul-21-09 01:52 PM |
#6 |

Yup. There very idea of people using computers, or velcro, or teflon |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-21-09 01:54 PM |
#10 |

Teflon was around before the space program. |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 01:58 PM |
#12 |
 
Ha. I know I was taught that teflon was invented for the space program. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-21-09 02:12 PM |
#18 |

Dude, how can you be *wrong* about Tang? |
Robb |
Jul-21-09 02:17 PM |
#24 |

Actually you are wrong about Tang |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:19 PM |
#28 |

Oh, crap. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-21-09 02:26 PM |
#37 |

Not so much an urban legend as NASA propaganda |
FarCenter |
Jul-21-09 02:30 PM |
#40 |

O RLY? |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:07 PM |
#16 |
 
Care to respond to post 12? |
PVnRT |
Jul-21-09 02:17 PM |
#23 |
  
You want me to pick apart every one of those things? No problem. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:29 PM |
#39 |
 
It's only too easy because you're being lazy. |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 02:43 PM |
#46 |
 
Wow, a few trinkets here and there, fascinating. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:52 PM |
#53 |
 
A few trinkets? You really are lazy! |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 02:55 PM |
#54 |
  
A magazine that highlights NASAs achievements that is put out by NASA is hardly a credible source. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 03:04 PM |
#57 |
 
Oh yeah, it's all lies. Year's worth of lies... |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 03:07 PM |
#58 |
  
Are you having a dialogue with yourself? |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 03:25 PM |
#63 |
 
Hahaha... okay then what did you mean when you said it wasn't credible? |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 03:33 PM |
#68 |
 
The weight of disproof lies with the critic... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-21-09 07:23 PM |
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Jul-21-09 07:19 PM |
#85 |
 
Sure - check out Redqueen's link above, post #12. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-21-09 02:18 PM |
#25 |

Check out arcadian's response above, post #39. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:32 PM |
#41 |

there's nothing laughable about teflon cookware. |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-21-09 02:21 PM |
#31 |

Yeah teflon is hardly an achievement. That shit is poison. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:41 PM |
#45 |

No. Next question. |
Richardo |
Jul-21-09 01:47 PM |
#2 |
 
That's cool |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 01:48 PM |
#3 |

I imagine we all... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-21-09 07:26 PM |
#87 |

Yes. Everything America does sucks. |
Richardo |
Jul-21-09 01:52 PM |
#7 |
 
Attention whore |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 01:55 PM |
#11 |

Heck why not go back to V1 V2 and slave labor? nt. |
endarkenment |
Jul-21-09 01:53 PM |
#8 |
 
Remember the Vanguard? |
FarCenter |
Jul-21-09 02:14 PM |
#19 |

That's my point. Our space program directly benefited from |
endarkenment |
Jul-21-09 02:20 PM |
#30 |

Although it directly benefited from the Nazi program, it probably didn't benefit from the slave labo |
FarCenter |
Jul-21-09 02:26 PM |
#38 |

You think wrong. |
endarkenment |
Jul-21-09 02:57 PM |
#55 |

Mittelbau-Dora was producing V2s after the designs were complete |
FarCenter |
Jul-21-09 03:15 PM |
#61 |

Carefully separate the tainted parts of the spoiled meat |
endarkenment |
Jul-21-09 03:22 PM |
#62 |
 
I'd be careful about talking about spoiled meat |
Confusious |
Jul-21-09 11:02 PM |
#94 |

WTF - we took nazi scientists who built and tested missiles |
endarkenment |
Jul-22-09 10:26 AM |
#100 |

If you are turning to the Wiki... |
Carl Skan |
Jul-21-09 05:07 PM |
#79 |

You must have meant to reply to endarkenment |
FarCenter |
Jul-21-09 06:25 PM |
#82 |

If somebody here on nazi apologist underground cares |
endarkenment |
Jul-22-09 10:27 AM |
#101 |

What nonsense. |
suston96 |
Jul-21-09 01:53 PM |
#9 |

Is baseball tainted because warfare used to be done with wooden bats? |
havocmom |
Jul-21-09 01:58 PM |
#13 |
 
No, but I'd say it is because of it's discriminatory practices against blacks. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:09 PM |
#17 |

And by "it" you mean Western Civilization. nt |
Robb |
Jul-21-09 02:19 PM |
#27 |
 
I'm pretty sure Europe didn't have the same discriminatory practices |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:23 PM |
#32 |

You're probably right |
Robb |
Jul-21-09 02:25 PM |
#35 |
 
You asserted that "Western Civilization" was behind the unfair treatment of blacks. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:37 PM |
#42 |

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Name removed |
Jul-21-09 03:37 PM |
#69 |

Yea, but go back far enough, |
Confusious |
Jul-21-09 11:45 PM |
#96 |

Prehaps, but that is not the logic of the OP |
havocmom |
Jul-21-09 10:34 PM |
#92 |

Of the things it could be tainted by... |
Carl Skan |
Jul-21-09 02:01 PM |
#14 |
 
BINGO |
havocmom |
Jul-21-09 10:36 PM |
#93 |

It Worked. Almost Nobody Got Killed. |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-21-09 02:05 PM |
#15 |
 
Yeah Gus Grissom was almost a nobody. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:16 PM |
#21 |

And I'd bet you every one of them would call your OP what it is: utter neo-luddite gibberish. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-21-09 02:18 PM |
#26 |
 
Speaking for the dead now are we? |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:24 PM |
#34 |

Look who's talking. nt |
Robb |
Jul-21-09 02:25 PM |
#36 |

No, you are. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-21-09 02:39 PM |
#43 |
 
Let me dig out my English to 3rd Grade dictionary. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:45 PM |
#48 |

What was your point, then? That the Astronauts didn't know they were risking their lives? |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-21-09 09:18 PM |
#91 |

Almost as dishonest (and quite a bit more ghoulish) ... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-21-09 03:32 PM |
#67 |

That's Not What I Said, Of Course |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-21-09 02:50 PM |
#50 |

Only the early days |
zipplewrath |
Jul-21-09 02:15 PM |
#20 |

Nope. Not even a little. |
Raskolnik |
Jul-21-09 02:20 PM |
#29 |
 
+1... |
SidDithers |
Jul-21-09 02:39 PM |
#44 |

Not at all. I love the record of the space program. Having our flag on the moon makes me proud |
rockymountaindem |
Jul-21-09 02:23 PM |
#33 |
 
Guess what? The Soviets put their flag there first and there are more of them. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 03:27 PM |
#64 |

Really? What was the cosmonaut's name? n/t |
Raskolnik |
Jul-21-09 03:32 PM |
#66 |
 
Unmanned probe. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 04:13 PM |
#71 |

Funny, doesn't sound like a Russian name. |
Raskolnik |
Jul-21-09 04:32 PM |
#74 |

Crashing into the moon and being smashed to pieces is a weird way to plant a flag |
NickB79 |
Jul-21-09 05:04 PM |
#78 |

Ooooh, robots |
rockymountaindem |
Jul-21-09 06:17 PM |
#81 |

As a proletarian, I am proud that our red flag stands there! |
JVS |
Jul-21-09 06:42 PM |
#83 |

PCs and the Internet are technology which are leftovers from the Cold War too. |
baldguy |
Jul-21-09 02:44 PM |
#47 |

"...nuclear delivery..." ??? We didn't use nuclear for space. Or did you mean |
Ilsa |
Jul-21-09 02:47 PM |
#49 |
 
Yeah but the question is does that make it "tainted"? (nt) |
redqueen |
Jul-21-09 02:51 PM |
#51 |
 
Atlas, Redstone and Titan launch vehicles were all dual use. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 02:58 PM |
#56 |

I stand corrected. Screwed that one up, didn't I? nt |
Ilsa |
Jul-21-09 05:39 PM |
#80 |

Told ya we should have gone with the hemp-fueled boosters. n/t |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jul-21-09 02:52 PM |
#52 |
 
With enough hemp, you don't need the boosters. |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-21-09 04:23 PM |
#73 |

No. |
DireStrike |
Jul-21-09 03:09 PM |
#59 |
 
Agree - scientific research and discovery itself cannot be blamed |
fujiyama |
Jul-22-09 12:00 AM |
#98 |

No. This is idiotic. n/t |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Jul-21-09 03:10 PM |
#60 |

We should never do nothin' because America sucks |
theboss |
Jul-21-09 03:29 PM |
#65 |
 
They were busy turning their nose up at it |
Confusious |
Jul-21-09 11:08 PM |
#95 |

All metal-hulled ships are tainted because they're derived from the Monitor battleship |
NickB79 |
Jul-21-09 03:59 PM |
#70 |
 
That is not a very good analogy. |
arcadian |
Jul-21-09 04:46 PM |
#76 |

WTF? Hell no. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-21-09 04:20 PM |
#72 |

There's no end to the "is this or that tainted because...?" game. Everything's tainted by something. |
VOX |
Jul-21-09 04:32 PM |
#75 |

Not one fucking bit |
MicaelS |
Jul-21-09 04:57 PM |
#77 |

If you think a robot could have done what was done |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-21-09 06:49 PM |
#84 |

Better yet... who cares? |
Fearless |
Jul-21-09 07:26 PM |
#88 |

I'm actually shocked that it took so long for someone to finally say out loud |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-21-09 07:28 PM |
#89 |

Only to someone who wants to bend reality. Rockets capable of getting into space |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Jul-21-09 07:28 PM |
#90 |

Wonder's well is far deep into the earth and spans the heavens. |
saltpoint |
Jul-21-09 11:46 PM |
#97 |

Of course a big part of it was propaganda |
fujiyama |
Jul-22-09 12:15 AM |
#99 |