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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 09:49 PM
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156. Ok I'll bite. Who bribed him? Why?
And why would he take a bribe?

Does he need bribes to get rich?

He said it best, "don't let the perfect fight against the good."


You ain't never gonna get perfect. Stop dreaming.
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  -Not What Obama Promised davidswanson  Jul-20-09 03:18 PM   #0 
  - He'a still better than Bush  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-20-09 03:27 PM   #1 
  - Why don't ya just lay the bar on the floor?  PurityOfEssence   Jul-20-09 07:15 PM   #41 
  - I certainly didn't advocate a pathetic hope-filled serfdom  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-20-09 07:45 PM   #44 
     - ...but you're tolerating potential for more wiretapping, torture, and secrecy . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:22 AM   #102 
     - Hey, you ASKED for discussion...  PurityOfEssence   Jul-21-09 04:42 PM   #142 
  - Wait... he's not Jesus?  The Source   Jul-20-09 11:05 PM   #65 
  - I don't think so, but some do appear stricken as if this were the coming of the Lord!  Cronus Protagonist   Jul-21-09 12:42 AM   #78 
  - And he's better than Nero.  leftofthedial   Jul-20-09 11:53 PM   #74 
  - But he's so fetching in a swimsuit! And he eats ice cream! And he has a puppy! n/t  QC   Jul-21-09 06:30 AM   #90 
  - !  FiveGoodMen   Jul-21-09 12:16 PM   #120 
  - Rejoice . . . !!! We've stopped the downward spiral just before hitting the deck --!!!  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:19 AM   #101 
  - I'd like to repeat this one key line out of an excellent piece:  LWolf   Jul-20-09 03:28 PM   #2 
  - yes, change entails a little bit more than a good leader  Ocracoker16   Jul-20-09 03:44 PM   #5 
  - the last paragraphs are very good  G_j   Jul-20-09 04:31 PM   #21 
  - Ah but it takes a good leader to facilitate good change.  Solomon   Jul-20-09 05:16 PM   #25 
     - I believe the premise is, people getting involved to strongly voice progressive views  G_j   Jul-20-09 06:07 PM   #34 
     - Exactly. And this is what I heard Obama saying  Solomon   Jul-20-09 06:35 PM   #38 
     - It takes a leader who is FREE from corporate dictates . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:41 AM   #105 
        - Ok I'll bite. Who bribed him? Why?  Solomon   Jul-21-09 09:49 PM   #156 
  - That is on fraking target  The Source   Jul-20-09 11:14 PM   #67 
  - Totally agree.  mistertrickster   Jul-21-09 07:25 AM   #92 
  - We are competing with corporations which control our government and  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:38 AM   #104 
     - So you see the media as the "slingshot"  LWolf   Jul-21-09 08:20 PM   #153 
        - I see the corporate press as complicit in delivering corporate fascism . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 09:43 PM   #155 
  - Obama also wrote that he supported signing statements in 2007.  Eric J in MN   Jul-20-09 03:31 PM   #3 
  - And do you support "SigningStatements" . . . do you agree with this?  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:46 AM   #107 
     - I disagree with Obama.  Eric J in MN   Jul-21-09 12:00 PM   #113 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-20-09 03:43 PM   #4 
  - Maybe we can do better in 2012  frog92969   Jul-20-09 03:49 PM   #6 
  - Mmm, no. It doesn't matter who corporate America decides is "electable" for us to "choose."  Echo In Light   Jul-20-09 03:53 PM   #8 
  - Seems to be all too true.  FREEWILL56   Jul-21-09 02:45 AM   #81 
     - The GOP didn't begin stealing elections in 2000 and 2004 . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:50 AM   #109 
  - "If we continue to do the same thing" . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:47 AM   #108 
  - I applaud your effort here  hfojvt   Jul-20-09 03:51 PM   #7 
  - Yes, it is a mixed bag at the moment.  foginthemorn   Jul-20-09 03:56 PM   #9 
  - So you like to over tax the elderly and disabled?  Bluenorthwest   Jul-20-09 04:24 PM   #15 
  - What is over-taxing?  hfojvt   Jul-20-09 06:02 PM   #30 
     - young and old  katkat   Jul-21-09 01:12 AM   #79 
        - Welcome to DU  Mythsaje   Jul-21-09 03:13 AM   #82 
        - not sure where you got those numbers but they are way off  hfojvt   Jul-21-09 11:18 AM   #100 
  - yes  davidswanson   Jul-20-09 06:03 PM   #31 
  - What??? a politician breaking a campaign promise? Say it isn't so!!!  Javaman   Jul-20-09 03:59 PM   #10 
  - I voted and was a delegate for Obama, not because I'm an uncompromising  mmonk   Jul-20-09 04:11 PM   #11 
  - Thank you for your honesty . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:44 AM   #106 
     - Squeezing hard makes for good lemon juice  nolabels   Jul-21-09 02:13 PM   #136 
     - My vote went in the spirit of hopefulness against all odds --  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 02:46 PM   #138 
        - Obama eloped with the DLC because of the vacuum he found himself in  nolabels   Jul-21-09 03:13 PM   #140 
           - OK . . . the first "weed" is corporate BRIBERY . . . let's go --  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 06:33 PM   #149 
              - Locating or establishing a debate and or an exact reason why a corporation are not persons or......  nolabels   Jul-22-09 04:06 AM   #166 
                 - Corporations don't breathe, corporations don't have a conscience . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-23-09 10:46 AM   #171 
     - You're welcome.  mmonk   Jul-21-09 05:03 PM   #147 
  - You're equivocating no results yet with breaking campaign promises, which IMO is unfair  berni_mccoy   Jul-20-09 04:14 PM   #12 
  - what is "movement toward"?  davidswanson   Jul-20-09 06:04 PM   #32 
  - OBAMA has eloped with people who are making policy which prevents change . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:53 AM   #110 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-20-09 04:15 PM   #13 
  - Yep. Especially the part about signing statements.  johnaries   Jul-20-09 05:10 PM   #24 
  - sorry you haven't read much  davidswanson   Jul-20-09 06:05 PM   #33 
     - Actually, I HAVE read quite a bit and also comprehend what  johnaries   Jul-20-09 06:18 PM   #36 
     - Wow David, you've really jumped the shark.  berni_mccoy   Jul-20-09 07:47 PM   #45 
     - When bu$h was pResident?  frog92969   Jul-20-09 07:54 PM   #47 
     - He's right, David. Your post fundamentally doesn't understand the term "signing statement"  HamdenRice   Jul-21-09 06:06 AM   #88 
  - True to form for this "journalist" n/t  billh58   Jul-20-09 06:29 PM   #37 
  - Be more specific  Orwellian_Ghost   Jul-20-09 08:38 PM   #50 
     - Althugh you didn't reply to me, you can look at any of my posts  johnaries   Jul-21-09 12:10 AM   #76 
  - welcome to the real world.  dysfunctional press   Jul-20-09 04:18 PM   #14 
  - They are all liars  Bluenorthwest   Jul-20-09 04:25 PM   #16 
     - However, IMO greater blame rests w/those who repeatedly believe the liars  Echo In Light   Jul-20-09 04:27 PM   #17 
        - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Jul-21-09 09:47 AM   #94 
  - Please remind Obama that we DON'T WANT private military interrogations of detainees!  cascadiance   Jul-20-09 04:29 PM   #18 
  - YES WE DO! We need that information. What we want  johnaries   Jul-20-09 05:04 PM   #23 
     - Yes, but don't we want folks like the CIA, U.S. Military, etc. doing it and NOT Blackwater, etc.?  cascadiance   Jul-20-09 05:21 PM   #26 
        - Ooooh, you meant "private contractors"! Sorry.  johnaries   Jul-20-09 05:31 PM   #27 
           - It sounds like they want to allow for them in the current bill under discussion though...  cascadiance   Jul-20-09 05:51 PM   #29 
           - Well, the key phrase is "under ANY circumstance".  johnaries   Jul-20-09 06:38 PM   #39 
              - I think the key thing is to not find these are "outs" buried in John Yoo-style legalese...  cascadiance   Jul-20-09 06:43 PM   #40 
           - Yes -- 45,000 private contractors in Iraq alone . . . !!! Privatizing military . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:59 AM   #111 
  - Promises are to politicians what holes are to donuts. Makes 'em look pretty but worthless.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-20-09 04:30 PM   #19 
  - Very good summary  latebloomer   Jul-20-09 04:31 PM   #20 
  - There's too much suck in Congress for one election to heal.  Orsino   Jul-20-09 04:54 PM   #22 
  - Wow, a politician not keeping promises.  bigwillq   Jul-20-09 05:39 PM   #28 
  - "Emperor Barack"? I don't give much credence to a writer  denem   Jul-20-09 06:15 PM   #35 
  - Who called him "Emperor"? (nt)  redqueen   Jul-21-09 12:37 PM   #125 
  - I don't think Jesus Christ himself could meet your expectations of perfection...  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Jul-20-09 07:29 PM   #42 
  - Nothing to do with perfection  Orwellian_Ghost   Jul-20-09 08:51 PM   #51 
  - ... the "pony" argument again -- ??  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:01 PM   #114 
  - Extra points for quoting Willie Nelson..  gimama   Jul-20-09 07:37 PM   #43 
  - Question: are you the same David Swanson  johnaries   Jul-20-09 07:49 PM   #46 
  - you've misread 6 signing statements  davidswanson   Jul-20-09 08:04 PM   #48 
  - Damn funny reply - folks he is easily one of the best at DU  scentopine   Jul-20-09 10:40 PM   #60 
  - Well, it WOULD be funny if he weren't serious.  johnaries   Jul-20-09 11:28 PM   #72 
  - You must be insane. Or you can't read. Or you're just paranoid.  johnaries   Jul-20-09 10:55 PM   #61 
  - let's give him the benefit of the doubt (undeserved) and say he can't read  onenote   Jul-20-09 11:41 PM   #73 
     - It's his interpretation of the first line of the next to last paragraph.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 12:07 AM   #75 
  - Damn it  The Source   Jul-20-09 11:20 PM   #69 
  - Welcome to DU. n/t  Laelth   Jul-21-09 11:03 AM   #97 
  - Seriousness of all this can't be understated -- and it is Congress's  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:09 PM   #115 
  - I love Daily Kos...but they are DLC ...always have been...and if someone  KoKo   Jul-20-09 09:02 PM   #54 
     - No, he just posted some of the same crap over there  johnaries   Jul-20-09 10:59 PM   #63 
     - DLC also working here at DU . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:12 PM   #117 
  - Man,this is well done. Thanks.  kayakjohnny   Jul-20-09 08:08 PM   #49 
  - "Change comes from forcing our culture to change, creating better communications systems"  KoKo   Jul-20-09 08:59 PM   #52 
  - A truly excellent post and a sad example of the new unrecommend feature  debbierlus   Jul-20-09 09:01 PM   #53 
  - It's up +24 now...I didn't see it when it was being trashed...but "Kick" is still your friend and  KoKo   Jul-20-09 09:04 PM   #55 
  - I think the reason to unrec it is that the first graphs have a lot of misinformation-not that I did  HamdenRice   Jul-21-09 06:16 AM   #89 
  - The "UNs" are really trying to suppress criticism which they can't handle in debate . ..  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:14 PM   #118 
  - "The key lesson should be that change does not come from electing someone."  varelse   Jul-20-09 09:19 PM   #56 
  - Sorry, but "Obama breaks his promises" is a script written by Karl Rove BEFORE the election.  McCamy Taylor   Jul-20-09 09:27 PM   #57 
  - One word..  Fumesucker   Jul-21-09 06:31 AM   #91 
     - Right . . . and we think Watergate and wiretapping are over -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:15 PM   #119 
  - K&R  maryf   Jul-20-09 09:28 PM   #58 
  - Wow, a president not being able to live up to campaign promises? Shocking.  BlueIris   Jul-20-09 09:38 PM   #59 
  - Didn't you already make this post?  Boomerang Diddle   Jul-20-09 10:56 PM   #62 
  - I think he's just trying to generate more hits for his website  johnaries   Jul-20-09 11:04 PM   #64 
  - I understand he posted this crap on DKos too.  Boomerang Diddle   Jul-20-09 11:13 PM   #66 
  - Are you kidding?  f the letter   Jul-20-09 11:20 PM   #68 
     - Something tells me you never liked Obama to begin with.  Boomerang Diddle   Jul-20-09 11:22 PM   #70 
     - That's not really an adequate reply to the message  f the letter   Jul-20-09 11:26 PM   #71 
     - I didn't vote for a president I "liked" . . . I voted for a president who would carry out  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:17 PM   #121 
     - you are not the only one who thinks this  bkozumplik   Jul-21-09 01:00 PM   #126 
  - No animal shall sleep in a bed... with sheets. n/t  FlyingSquirrel   Jul-21-09 12:29 AM   #77 
  - Poll: Over 50% of U.S. citizens support torture  troubledamerican   Jul-21-09 01:29 AM   #80 
  - Who the fuck cares?  Mythsaje   Jul-21-09 03:16 AM   #83 
  - Choose your battle. You only get one victory, if over 50% aren't on your side.  troubledamerican   Jul-21-09 03:28 AM   #84 
     - Oh, I won't argue about Hillary...  Mythsaje   Jul-21-09 03:34 AM   #85 
        - I'm looking at Siberia.  troubledamerican   Jul-21-09 03:48 AM   #86 
           - Pretty detailed vision there...  Mythsaje   Jul-21-09 03:59 AM   #87 
  - Oh Whew! That makes it legal and moral, then.  chill_wind   Jul-21-09 09:37 AM   #93 
  - They've been educated to that position by our CIA corporate press --  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:20 PM   #122 
     - No disagreement. My interpretation is even darker than yours.  troubledamerican   Jul-21-09 11:11 PM   #161 
  - K&R for the truth.  Laelth   Jul-21-09 10:54 AM   #95 
  - Change will come when we end campaign finance BRIBERY . . . and only then -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 10:57 AM   #96 
  - Unfortunately, that won't happen. At least as long as the SCOTUS  johnaries   Jul-21-09 11:05 AM   #98 
     - It won't happen as long as you don't fight for it -- Obama is BRIBED . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 11:18 AM   #99 
        - Although I agree with you on the inequal distribution of money  johnaries   Jul-21-09 11:59 AM   #112 
           - Supremes also put Bush in the White House . . .!!  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:33 PM   #123 
              - First, I would suggest you put down the crack pipe  johnaries   Jul-21-09 01:03 PM   #127 
                 - "A crack pipe" defense . . . try debate . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 01:45 PM   #132 
                    - You are welcome for the good news.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 02:07 PM   #135 
                       - Claims of your superiorty aside . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 02:36 PM   #137 
                          - Excuse me, but WHAT "claims of superiority"?  johnaries   Jul-21-09 03:42 PM   #141 
                             - " ... since your rant is mostly incoherent" . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 06:41 PM   #150 
                                - Once again, you are putting words in my mouth.  johnaries   Jul-22-09 12:07 AM   #164 
  - I don't agree with everything he's done  mvd   Jul-21-09 11:32 AM   #103 
  - Well said! nt  johnaries   Jul-21-09 12:09 PM   #116 
  - kick for ending wiretapping . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 12:35 PM   #124 
  - OMG! You've attacked "Teh One"!  Greyhound   Jul-21-09 01:06 PM   #128 
  - this is the biggest bunch of bullshit...  Blue_Roses   Jul-21-09 01:21 PM   #129 
  - Could you quote the sentence where the OP states his personal opinion o Obama?  Kid Dynamite   Jul-21-09 01:28 PM   #130 
     - Try the entire OP.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 05:00 PM   #145 
     - Try the entire OP.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 05:00 PM   #146 
  - Well researched....  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-21-09 01:38 PM   #131 
  - If you actaully follow his links, you'll find they don't say  johnaries   Jul-21-09 05:10 PM   #148 
     - Not what the Obama haters want  Cha   Jul-21-09 10:36 PM   #157 
        - IF you are calling me a hater, stfu....  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-21-09 10:38 PM   #158 
        - You stfu..  Cha   Jul-21-09 10:45 PM   #160 
           - NO, YOU STFU.  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-22-09 08:03 AM   #167 
        - I think you're right. They don't want to hear the truth.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 11:16 PM   #162 
  - k&r n/t  blindpig   Jul-21-09 02:05 PM   #133 
  - Great post! It's sick that DU apologists & bankster bailout cheerleaders live on in denial.  earth mom   Jul-21-09 02:05 PM   #134 
  - What denial? If you will read my posts upthread you will see  johnaries   Jul-21-09 04:58 PM   #144 
  - Agree -- Wall Street is running theWhite House ....  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 06:47 PM   #151 
  - Thank you for this post. I've bookmarked it.  DireStrike   Jul-21-09 03:00 PM   #139 
  - Don't bookmark it. It's full of distortions. Please read upthread.  johnaries   Jul-21-09 04:52 PM   #143 
  - Too late to rec. sorry. kick. Nice article David.  Piewhacket   Jul-21-09 07:12 PM   #152 
  - k i c k  defendandprotect   Jul-21-09 09:17 PM   #154 
  - Tiny Tim Pops Us the Bird  scentopine   Jul-21-09 10:44 PM   #159 
  - That's because the Secretary of the Treasury serves under the  johnaries   Jul-21-09 11:28 PM   #163 
  - Nonsense  scentopine   Jul-22-09 08:41 AM   #168 
     - Not nonsense at all. There is no comparison between Obama and Bush.  johnaries   Jul-22-09 10:50 AM   #170 
  - I wish I'd have said that  upi402   Jul-22-09 12:19 AM   #165 
  - I think this is a great thread...  Gin Blossom   Jul-22-09 10:23 AM   #169 
 

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