SeattleGirl
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Sun Jul-19-09 09:06 PM
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| 57. Many of the people I graduated with in 1973 think I'm a lesbian. |
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Started in 1971, when I shared a locker with my best friend. Her boyfriend was jealous of our friendship (oh, those dramatic days of high school), and complained to one of HIS friends about it. This friend, Karen, decided that the way to punish me for that friendship was to spread the word that I was a lesbian.
Lots and lots of people bought into that, and after she did that, when I walked down the hallway, it was like the red sea parting in front of me. Some of the girls would literally gasp in horror if they brushed against me in the hallway. Obviously, they were afraid of catching teh gay.
It didn't hurt to be called a lesbian; my mom had a number of lesbian friends from work, and I had been around them most of my life. No, what hurt was to be treated as if I had some disease. It hurt to be scoffed at and laughed at. It hurt to see people turning their backs on me. It hurt that with being given a label, some people took it as license to treat me like shit.
Today, if that happened, I'd probably put a smack down on them, again, not for calling me what they consider a bad name, but for how they treated me because of it. In 1971, I was incredibly shy, and mostly tried to be invisible. After the rumor started, it was hard to stay invisible.
I know that my experience in those long-ago days doesn't come close to what many in the GLBT community go through every day. But I think it gave me a small glimpse of what it's like to be treated like shit just because of who you are.
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A question for heterosexual DU women |
Neecy |
Jul-19-09 07:54 PM |
#0 |

Yes, quite common. |
HeresyLives |
Jul-19-09 07:56 PM |
#1 |
 
LOL |
havocmom |
Jul-19-09 08:00 PM |
#4 |
  
Take a number - |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-19-09 08:18 PM |
#22 |
 
remind me to tell you about wayward's days of going to gay clubs to dance un-harassed |
havocmom |
Jul-19-09 08:23 PM |
#29 |
  
That's what I used to do! |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-19-09 08:27 PM |
#34 |
 
LOL You and Wayward should get together and tell tales |
havocmom |
Jul-19-09 08:35 PM |
#43 |
 
The Pier 9? |
Virginian |
Jul-19-09 11:08 PM |
#114 |
 
Tracks? |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jul-20-09 12:33 AM |
#129 |
  
Remember Annie's Paramount Steak House? |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-20-09 01:17 AM |
#134 |
 
Oh, yeah. Just read some reviews on WaPo.... |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jul-20-09 09:44 AM |
#153 |
 
Bob and Edith's is EXACTLY the same! |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-20-09 12:36 PM |
#161 |
 
Kewl! |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jul-20-09 01:37 PM |
#164 |
 
WHITEY'S!!! |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-20-09 03:38 PM |
#168 |
 
I remember Pier 9! |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-20-09 01:14 AM |
#132 |
 
You used to go to Tracks DC?! |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-20-09 02:02 AM |
#137 |
 
It was a wonderful place - |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-20-09 12:37 PM |
#162 |
 
It's always the one we wouldn't touch |
Missy Vixen |
Jul-19-09 08:26 PM |
#31 |
 
Isn't it ironic, oh, she of the trampy name, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jul-19-09 08:29 PM |
#38 |
 
I sometimes wonder why some guys' heads don't explode from the contradictions within |
Hello_Kitty |
Jul-19-09 08:02 PM |
#11 |
 
Oh god yes, been there many times |
varelse |
Jul-19-09 08:52 PM |
#55 |
 
same here....took interest in science, politics, technology, aviation.... |
Triana |
Jul-19-09 11:43 PM |
#123 |

My daughter does not look much like me. Yeah, there have been times.... |
havocmom |
Jul-19-09 07:58 PM |
#2 |
 
OMG. I thought I was the only one! |
stanwyck |
Jul-20-09 10:43 AM |
#157 |

i was in high school |
fizzgig |
Jul-19-09 07:59 PM |
#3 |

Not to me, but I am a good deal older. I am married, but my husband does not |
CTyankee |
Jul-19-09 08:00 PM |
#5 |

I used to drive a Subaru...I must have been gay. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jul-19-09 08:00 PM |
#6 |
 
LOL - me too (miss that car!) |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-19-09 08:11 PM |
#16 |
  
Deja vu JG! |
Jazzgirl |
Jul-19-09 08:42 PM |
#48 |
 
Still have my Subaru. |
boobooday |
Jul-19-09 08:20 PM |
#26 |
 
my at the time teenaged son called ours a hippy lesbian car. his gay aunt, |
ourbluenation |
Jul-19-09 10:33 PM |
#90 |
 
I drive a Subaru! And I'm not especially girly. |
grace0418 |
Jul-19-09 11:22 PM |
#121 |

I've never had that happen... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jul-19-09 08:00 PM |
#7 |

No ... |
Esurientes |
Jul-19-09 08:01 PM |
#8 |

Never experience that. Been called an |
amyrose2712 |
Jul-19-09 08:01 PM |
#9 |

On looks alone, yes. |
Lars39 |
Jul-19-09 08:01 PM |
#10 |
 
I have been shaving my head for the last 14 years. |
Jazzgirl |
Jul-19-09 08:44 PM |
#50 |

Right on! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:50 PM |
#105 |

It was the best haircut I ever had! |
Lars39 |
Jul-19-09 11:12 PM |
#115 |

Cool.I love a chick with a shaved head. |
amyrose2712 |
Jul-20-09 01:27 PM |
#163 |

Back in the early days of the internet..posting liberal views were met w/ "you must be a fat lesbian |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jul-19-09 08:03 PM |
#12 |
 
With lots of cats. Don't forget the cats! |
QC |
Jul-19-09 08:36 PM |
#46 |

HAHAHA |
noamnety |
Jul-19-09 11:00 PM |
#109 |
 
It is best not to delve too deeply into the right wing mind,. n/t |
QC |
Jul-19-09 11:18 PM |
#118 |

"It is best not to delve too deeply into the right wing mind" |
KansDem |
Jul-20-09 11:36 AM |
#160 |

Female + Liberal + cats = Lesbian |
Liberal_in_LA |
Jul-20-09 02:59 AM |
#140 |

I live in a small rural county in Ohio, mostly Republican, and this |
A Brand New World |
Jul-19-09 08:04 PM |
#13 |

Nope. Never happened to me. nt |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-19-09 08:10 PM |
#14 |

Occasionally. If you turn certain guys down, they believe you MUST be gay. |
Gwendolyn |
Jul-19-09 08:11 PM |
#15 |
 
retorts for "uppity" women on message boards... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 08:27 PM |
#32 |

Haha... yes, that's a pretty good list! |
Gwendolyn |
Jul-19-09 08:50 PM |
#53 |

I hear you....lol! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:03 PM |
#70 |

Mmmmm. Communist lesbians. |
Chulanowa |
Jul-19-09 10:47 PM |
#103 |

I've never been called an anti-gay slur, but |
ezgoingrl |
Jul-19-09 08:12 PM |
#17 |

Yes. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 08:13 PM |
#18 |

Most definitely. |
cbayer |
Jul-19-09 08:16 PM |
#19 |

You tell them, "I'm bisexual and I'm not attracted to you." |
Ian David |
Jul-19-09 08:17 PM |
#20 |
 
These days.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 08:28 PM |
#37 |
  
Which makes the revenge all the sweeter for you when you tell them, "No." n/t |
Ian David |
Jul-19-09 08:49 PM |
#52 |
  
And they do... often |
TorchTheWitch |
Jul-20-09 07:49 AM |
#145 |
 
You got that right! nt |
raccoon |
Jul-20-09 09:05 AM |
#151 |
 
Even better...just say you don't do pity sex and wiggle your pinkie at him. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-20-09 02:04 AM |
#138 |

From just today: |
noamnety |
Jul-19-09 08:18 PM |
#21 |

Yes. When I was in college I went to Mardi Gras with a female |
alsame |
Jul-19-09 08:18 PM |
#23 |

Oh, yeah. |
madamesilverspurs |
Jul-19-09 08:18 PM |
#24 |
 
"...hasn't shaved his teeth for at least a week." |
SeattleGirl |
Jul-19-09 09:13 PM |
#58 |
 
"shaved his teeth"! |
TorchTheWitch |
Jul-20-09 03:32 AM |
#141 |

No, it hasn't happened to me |
Mz Pip |
Jul-19-09 08:19 PM |
#25 |

The only time this happened to me was when I was in a gay bar.... |
Hepburn |
Jul-19-09 08:20 PM |
#27 |
 
Same here. My best friend from college is a lesbian and whenever we go out |
Mrs. Overall |
Jul-20-09 11:12 AM |
#159 |

No. I've never had this happen. |
Starry Messenger |
Jul-19-09 08:21 PM |
#28 |

no |
Skittles |
Jul-19-09 08:24 PM |
#30 |

About ten years ago I lived in a small town where I and a lesbian lady |
jwirr |
Jul-19-09 08:27 PM |
#33 |

Its happened |
etherealtruth |
Jul-19-09 08:27 PM |
#35 |

Grrrrr... |
joey5150 |
Jul-19-09 08:28 PM |
#36 |

Never over sex but over spending time with other women. |
EFerrari |
Jul-19-09 08:31 PM |
#39 |

if you turn a guy down, ..... handful of times. seems to be the knee jerk comment |
seabeyond |
Jul-19-09 08:32 PM |
#40 |

I don't know how common it is....... |
gleaner |
Jul-19-09 08:33 PM |
#41 |

My father always made those kind of remarks about single women from their mid-twenties on up. |
Kceres |
Jul-19-09 08:34 PM |
#42 |

I'm a man, but I sadly have seen more than one woman 'insulted' this way |
unpossibles |
Jul-19-09 08:35 PM |
#44 |

Yes. |
Jazzgirl |
Jul-19-09 08:36 PM |
#45 |

I dare say most single professional women over a certain age |
hlthe2b |
Jul-19-09 08:39 PM |
#47 |

I haven't had it happen, but I've wondered whenever |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-19-09 08:42 PM |
#49 |

No, but I have had some men react badly because I have gay male friends |
csziggy |
Jul-19-09 08:47 PM |
#51 |

Yes, many times |
varelse |
Jul-19-09 08:50 PM |
#54 |

Often, guys will call you a "lesbo" |
AnnieBW |
Jul-19-09 08:58 PM |
#56 |
 
how can you not want to get with this, babeeee?! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:20 PM |
#79 |
 
Or they call women "sluts", which is ironic as they just chose NOT to sleep with the guy. |
Forkboy |
Jul-19-09 10:30 PM |
#86 |

haha...true.... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:34 PM |
#91 |

Many of the people I graduated with in 1973 think I'm a lesbian. |
SeattleGirl |
Jul-19-09 09:06 PM |
#57 |

yes when i was young.... |
Mari333 |
Jul-19-09 09:18 PM |
#59 |

Barney Frank thought my friend and I were a gay couple - |
phillysuse |
Jul-19-09 09:39 PM |
#60 |

I have, my kid thought it hilarious (was in 3rd grade) when another kid called me a slur |
uppityperson |
Jul-19-09 09:41 PM |
#61 |
 
a child...? |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:39 PM |
#95 |

No, but I've been off the market for 17 years. nt |
Ilsa |
Jul-19-09 09:42 PM |
#62 |
 
Ha! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:10 PM |
#73 |

Yes, yes and no. |
MuseRider |
Jul-19-09 09:49 PM |
#63 |

Yeah, I've been accused of being a lesbian |
pipi_k |
Jul-19-09 09:52 PM |
#64 |

I got called a "fucking dyke" and going to hell by a ten year old counterprotester at a prop 8 demo. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-19-09 09:53 PM |
#65 |
 
wow. |
Neecy |
Jul-19-09 10:01 PM |
#69 |
  
I ignored it. That family's well known locally for what they do, and the cops were asking us all to |
LeftyMom |
Jul-19-09 10:13 PM |
#75 |
 
that's beyond messed up. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:13 PM |
#74 |
  
The family's basically the Phelpses without the law degrees or travel budget. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-19-09 10:15 PM |
#76 |
 
omg. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:22 PM |
#80 |
 
That is a funny description "without the law degrees or travel budget" |
uppityperson |
Jul-19-09 10:58 PM |
#108 |
 
Yikes. |
noamnety |
Jul-19-09 11:08 PM |
#113 |

that question is really |
Gabi Hayes |
Jul-19-09 09:57 PM |
#66 |
 
btw, I've been asked if I was gay by several different kids at schools in |
Gabi Hayes |
Jul-19-09 10:01 PM |
#68 |

wow! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:30 PM |
#87 |

I had a roommate in college spread a rumor I was a lesbian. |
jmm |
Jul-19-09 10:00 PM |
#67 |
 
Holy crap! |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:06 PM |
#72 |

I never had much luck with roommates. |
jmm |
Jul-20-09 12:58 AM |
#131 |

By other straight women . . . ! |
tilsammans |
Jul-19-09 10:06 PM |
#71 |
 
i hear that a lot. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:27 PM |
#83 |

Not particularly |
MissB |
Jul-19-09 10:16 PM |
#77 |

No. |
woo me with science |
Jul-19-09 10:19 PM |
#78 |

Back in the days when I was a medic, that happened ONCE |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-19-09 10:23 PM |
#81 |

Yes. but have no problem with it, cause I don't consider it an insult. |
unapatriciated |
Jul-19-09 10:23 PM |
#82 |

I'm a man, and this happens a LOT to men as well -- |
smalll |
Jul-19-09 10:28 PM |
#84 |
 
you know, I'm sorry I didn't ask this |
Neecy |
Jul-19-09 10:34 PM |
#92 |
  
not too late to create a separate poll... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:45 PM |
#101 |
 
okey dokey |
Neecy |
Jul-19-09 10:49 PM |
#104 |
 
We probably do... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:51 PM |
#106 |
 
wow |
Neecy |
Jul-20-09 12:03 AM |
#126 |
 
Patriarchy constrains everyone... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-20-09 12:34 AM |
#130 |
 
i'm really pissed at south park for bringing that back. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:41 PM |
#97 |

(self-delete -- duplicate post.) /nt |
smalll |
Jul-19-09 10:28 PM |
#85 |

Many times |
DKRC |
Jul-19-09 10:31 PM |
#88 |

Yup. Heck, my own dad thought I was a lesbian for years. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-19-09 10:31 PM |
#89 |
 
True... |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:38 PM |
#93 |

Well, a new hairdresser cut my hair short in middle school. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-19-09 10:44 PM |
#100 |

Ah...ok. |
bliss_eternal |
Jul-19-09 10:47 PM |
#102 |

I've only had it happen when I turned down a guy. |
distantearlywarning |
Jul-19-09 10:38 PM |
#94 |

don't know how common it is but it semi frequently happened to me in olden times |
pitohui |
Jul-19-09 10:40 PM |
#96 |

No, I haven't, but I've heard gossip that other women are, from men... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jul-19-09 10:43 PM |
#98 |

jokingly perhaps |
shanti |
Jul-19-09 10:44 PM |
#99 |

Yep, my Mom and I still laugh about the time we were walking together... |
TygrBright |
Jul-19-09 10:54 PM |
#107 |

no, not at all. |
inna |
Jul-19-09 11:00 PM |
#110 |

Yes. I don't wear make up and wear sensible shoes. Yep. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jul-19-09 11:01 PM |
#111 |

I have felt threatened for being a female, period. ... |
Hekate |
Jul-19-09 11:06 PM |
#112 |

No, no one has ever suggested that I am/ was a lesbian |
Lorien |
Jul-19-09 11:14 PM |
#116 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-19-09 11:17 PM |
#117 |

I haven't, but I know female athletes who get that all the time. nt |
tblue37 |
Jul-19-09 11:19 PM |
#119 |

you all are terrific |
Neecy |
Jul-19-09 11:21 PM |
#120 |

Not experienced it but being somewhat of a tomboy, older, unpartnered... |
Triana |
Jul-19-09 11:41 PM |
#122 |

Yes, a number of times. |
Dappleganger |
Jul-19-09 11:46 PM |
#124 |

it is common |
dogsmycopilot |
Jul-19-09 11:49 PM |
#125 |

I love the WNBA and my Phoenix Mercury. Clubbing afterwards is sometimes a pain, though. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-20-09 12:24 AM |
#127 |

When my daughter was in her teens |
rhiannon55 |
Jul-20-09 12:33 AM |
#128 |

Haven't read all the replies but will pitch in my story |
Shanti Mama |
Jul-20-09 01:16 AM |
#133 |

No, and |
shimmergal |
Jul-20-09 01:51 AM |
#135 |

or you could present it actually the way it was presented in the thread you're referring to. |
omega minimo |
Jul-20-09 02:02 AM |
#136 |
 
I did |
Neecy |
Jul-20-09 10:30 AM |
#154 |

no you didn't |
omega minimo |
Jul-20-09 10:35 AM |
#155 |

Uh-huh |
Neecy |
Jul-20-09 10:57 AM |
#158 |

Old school goth and male here, so I used to frequently wear make-up |
Norrin Radd |
Jul-20-09 02:24 AM |
#139 |

the opposite really |
TorchTheWitch |
Jul-20-09 03:46 AM |
#142 |

Doe bisexual count? |
eridani |
Jul-20-09 03:51 AM |
#143 |

Funny thing is that |
Politicalboi |
Jul-20-09 04:47 AM |
#144 |

No. I live in Vermont. |
cali |
Jul-20-09 07:53 AM |
#146 |
 
No - I used to live in Vermont and now I live in NH. |
Vinca |
Jul-20-09 08:05 AM |
#147 |

Yes I was harassed by a guy once called me names like that |
alarimer |
Jul-20-09 08:12 AM |
#148 |

I haven't been called any slurs |
Berry Cool |
Jul-20-09 08:45 AM |
#149 |

Yes. I have been called a lesbian and |
Phentex |
Jul-20-09 08:46 AM |
#150 |

Never had that experience. |
salin |
Jul-20-09 09:35 AM |
#152 |

I've had guy "friends" poke fun at me when I hang out with another chick. |
backtoblue |
Jul-20-09 10:39 AM |
#156 |

No but the other day someone used an anti-gay slur to describe Michael Jackson |
applegrove |
Jul-20-09 01:42 PM |
#165 |

Oh yes. |
redqueen |
Jul-20-09 01:45 PM |
#166 |

Not yet |
AspenRose |
Jul-20-09 01:56 PM |
#167 |