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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. Im trying to understand you
"However, freedom from religion and freedom to disrespect religion are not the same concept."

That is what you posted. You also wrote that the two are not the same concept, but you disagree with those who dont respect religion and should not be allowed to do so. Am I missing something here?
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  -Atheists sue to keep 'In God We Trust' off Capitol Visitor Center Christa  Jul-19-09 02:28 PM   #0 
  - I absolutely agree...these guys are promoting their religion....  rfranklin   Jul-19-09 02:33 PM   #1 
  - How about?  FarCenter   Jul-19-09 02:34 PM   #2 
  - In the dollar we trust or in wall street we trust?  jwirr   Jul-19-09 03:17 PM   #9 
     - That would at least be honest. n/t  PSzymeczek   Jul-19-09 03:39 PM   #18 
        - That is what I was thinking.  jwirr   Jul-19-09 05:25 PM   #40 
  - Gotta give 'em credit.  rrneck   Jul-19-09 02:34 PM   #3 
  - one would think we didn't have a serious financial crisis on our hands. dan, you are now,  niyad   Jul-19-09 02:36 PM   #4 
  - Why?  Joanie Baloney   Jul-20-09 08:17 AM   #59 
  - Dan Barker is more of a patriot that you will ever be.  MindPilot   Jul-20-09 09:51 AM   #61 
  - I think the poster may be talking about Dan *Lundgren*  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:03 PM   #93 
     - Oh, well that's very different...(best Rosana Rosanadana voice)  MindPilot   Jul-20-09 04:48 PM   #102 
     - You mean Emily Litella  JHB   Jul-21-09 06:50 AM   #133 
     - Ooooh!  Joanie Baloney   Jul-20-09 05:57 PM   #115 
  - Sorry if i went off one-eighth cocked.  MindPilot   Jul-20-09 04:50 PM   #103 
  - Whats a moran?  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 04:52 PM   #104 
     - Here.  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 07:04 PM   #124 
  - $10 triillion and those dudes can't think of anything better to do?! What a bunch of wankers.  Deja Q   Jul-19-09 02:36 PM   #5 
  - I agree  Mz Pip   Jul-19-09 02:41 PM   #7 
  - Uh, do you not distinguish between private displays of belief  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 03:25 PM   #10 
     - A public display of  Mz Pip   Jul-19-09 04:06 PM   #21 
        - The government puts god on money and buildings  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 04:12 PM   #23 
        - Except it's not on  Mz Pip   Jul-19-09 04:54 PM   #35 
           - I refer you to post #43. nt  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 06:55 PM   #48 
           - "Except it's not on every piece of paper or government building. "  ekelly   Jul-20-09 07:42 PM   #129 
        - Spoken like a true non-non-believer.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-19-09 05:20 PM   #39 
        - Sorry if I can't  Mz Pip   Jul-19-09 07:26 PM   #49 
        - "A public display of belief is not an establishment of a government religion"  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 04:55 PM   #105 
  - $10 triillion and those dudes can't think of anything better to do?! What a bunch of wankers...  SidDithers   Jul-19-09 03:29 PM   #11 
  - I honestly can't tell if your post is for or against the ffrf lawsuit.  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 03:30 PM   #12 
  - I'm not sure you understand.  kimmylavin   Jul-19-09 04:19 PM   #29 
  - It's not about removing the words. The words are not there yet.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-19-09 05:18 PM   #38 
  - You're right!  snake in the grass   Jul-20-09 06:11 PM   #119 
  - I demand "In Goddess We Trust" since, after all, our goddess gave birth to their gods  niyad   Jul-19-09 02:37 PM   #6 
  - How many school books could $100,000 buy?  jmm   Jul-19-09 02:50 PM   #8 
  - What the hell does "In God We Trust" mean?  immoderate   Jul-19-09 03:32 PM   #13 
  - For Christians it means..  Fumesucker   Jul-19-09 03:36 PM   #14 
  - really?  Lerkfish   Jul-19-09 03:39 PM   #17 
     - >>freedom from religion and freedom to disrespect religion are not the same concept.  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 03:45 PM   #19 
     - Wrong, fish, MY freedom TO DISRESPECT your, and any ...  MNDemNY   Jul-19-09 04:07 PM   #22 
     - shrug -- I'm not asking you to respect anything.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:29 AM   #52 
        - I said you have no right NOT to be offended.  MNDemNY   Jul-20-09 08:19 AM   #60 
        - So what should the penalty be?  moggie   Jul-20-09 11:39 AM   #65 
        - wow. such hyperbole.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 01:54 PM   #81 
           - So your language isn't clear  moggie   Jul-20-09 03:25 PM   #87 
              - you accused me of suggesting to stone people to death  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 03:29 PM   #88 
              - Now you're just floundering  moggie   Jul-20-09 03:54 PM   #90 
                 - "it sounds like you support a blasphemy law"...? only in your own head.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 04:11 PM   #96 
              - You have CROSSED a line here  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 05:02 PM   #108 
                 - I am never, ever going to get as many laughs from a single entity as I have from this thread! nt  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 07:08 PM   #125 
        - "concept two: freedom to disparage any religion"  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 05:00 PM   #107 
        - yes, but I'm saying two things: I don't personally think people should,  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 06:00 PM   #116 
        - Sorry, but religious belief comes down to nothing more than an opinion,  stopbush   Jul-20-09 06:36 PM   #122 
           - agreed, and I have the right to say I don't agree with people doing that, right?  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:24 PM   #126 
     - I am free to disrespect whatever the fuck I want  RadicalTexan   Jul-19-09 04:23 PM   #32 
     - you have the right to disrespect, but others do not have the right to be offended  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:30 AM   #53 
        - Get offended all you want!  moodforaday   Jul-20-09 01:21 PM   #79 
        - I am not personally offended.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 01:55 PM   #82 
        - Uh, nobody said you couldn't be offended. Go right ahead....! nt  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 03:55 PM   #91 
        - Uh, yeah, thats is the way it works.  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 05:04 PM   #109 
           - I'm afraid you're not making sense, at least to me, here.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 05:57 PM   #114 
     - Was I inaccurate somehow?  Fumesucker   Jul-19-09 04:58 PM   #37 
     - This thread has supplied me with the most laughs I've had in quite a while! nt  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 06:51 PM   #47 
     - LOL, how coy.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:31 AM   #54 
        - So you don't trust your deity to not kill off the huge majority of the world's population?  Fumesucker   Jul-20-09 08:07 AM   #58 
           - do you understand the definition of the word "coy"?  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 10:57 AM   #63 
              - I know the meanings of both words..  Fumesucker   Jul-20-09 11:30 AM   #64 
     - Does it really offend you if I profer that Samson's super strength hair is mythology?  immoderate   Jul-20-09 12:17 PM   #67 
     - +1  TokenQueer   Jul-20-09 12:46 PM   #75 
     - not offended personally at all.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 01:52 PM   #80 
        - It's your right to *hold* and defend the opinions that I respect.  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:00 PM   #92 
     - Are you saying that one cannot disrepect religion?  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 04:58 PM   #106 
     - no, but don't let that stop you from making that wrong assumption.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 05:28 PM   #111 
        - Im trying to understand you  rd_kent   Jul-20-09 05:33 PM   #112 
           - yes, you're missing something.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 05:54 PM   #113 
     - Fuck off religion.  armyowalgreens   Jul-20-09 06:29 PM   #120 
        - sigh... are you ALL idiots?  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:25 PM   #127 
           - No, I got your point loud and clear.  armyowalgreens   Jul-20-09 08:22 PM   #130 
              - no, you did not get it at all.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 08:51 PM   #131 
  - I always assumed it meant the same as "trust to providence".  Marr   Jul-19-09 03:38 PM   #16 
     - OK, now I can't stop laughing!  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 03:47 PM   #20 
     - I actually rather like it.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-19-09 05:27 PM   #42 
     - Uh-huh! Trusting in god seems foolish.  immoderate   Jul-20-09 12:09 PM   #66 
  - as a christian, I completely support the atheists, here.  Lerkfish   Jul-19-09 03:37 PM   #15 
  - I appreciate that!  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 04:15 PM   #25 
     - actually no you don't.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:32 AM   #55 
        - LOLZ  Rebubula   Jul-20-09 07:42 AM   #56 
        - precisely, which is why I said it was ironic.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 07:50 AM   #57 
        - Sigh.....  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 03:51 PM   #89 
           - LOL! sorry about that.  Lerkfish   Jul-20-09 04:07 PM   #94 
              - No problem!  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:14 PM   #97 
  - In God We Trust  chucker47   Jul-19-09 04:14 PM   #24 
  - Uh.  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 04:18 PM   #28 
  - A weak try at spin, at best.  Sinistrous   Jul-19-09 04:27 PM   #34 
  - That is an impressive amount of bullshit, for such a new poster.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-19-09 05:45 PM   #45 
  - Washington did take his oath on a bible  Zomby Woof   Jul-20-09 12:35 PM   #73 
  - What do you want on your pizza?  elshiva   Jul-19-09 08:39 PM   #50 
  - no... no it isn't... stop listening to right wingers  fascisthunter   Jul-20-09 12:28 PM   #71 
  - You are a moron. Thanks for playing.  armyowalgreens   Jul-20-09 06:34 PM   #121 
  - Perhaps you should take the plank of history distortion out of your eye...  JHB   Jul-21-09 07:25 AM   #134 
  - the courts have ruled on this  melm00se   Jul-19-09 04:17 PM   #26 
  - Yeah, and what's funny is  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 04:22 PM   #31 
  - Try to have a plaque in a public building inscribed "In Allah we trust"...  Silent3   Jul-19-09 05:41 PM   #43 
  - Bingo. nt  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 06:46 PM   #46 
  - I submit that it is only 'obvious' to believers.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-20-09 10:42 AM   #62 
     - the fact that god is on our money is pretty twisted actually  fascisthunter   Jul-20-09 12:30 PM   #72 
     - >>Or, I suggest, print 'FLAPADOOLE WACK WACK'  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:08 PM   #95 
  - The Main part of "In God we trust" that I don't like is the "WE" part.  BlueJazz   Jul-19-09 04:17 PM   #27 
  - Oh, I guess  tbyg52   Jul-19-09 04:25 PM   #33 
     - LOL!...or maybe "In God we (except Bluejazz) Trust"  BlueJazz   Jul-19-09 04:55 PM   #36 
  - Oh Lord, protect us from your followers.  Union Yes   Jul-19-09 04:22 PM   #30 
  - They scream about spending and then do this stuff. Hypocrites. They act like it isn't their money.  Metta   Jul-19-09 05:27 PM   #41 
  - k/r  Solly Mack   Jul-19-09 05:44 PM   #44 
  - These people just don't trust the American Dream... or E Pluribus Unum  annabanana   Jul-19-09 08:42 PM   #51 
  - Isn't it enough it's on all of our money?  Starry Messenger   Jul-20-09 12:17 PM   #68 
  - Even in this hyperpartisan era there are some issues which get strong bipartisan support:  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-20-09 12:26 PM   #69 
  - That is not support - that is fear.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-20-09 12:55 PM   #77 
     - It shouldn't go through, because voters would be angry if their representatives DIDN'T support it?  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-20-09 01:59 PM   #83 
        - You would maybe support a theocracy if the voters wanted it?  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-20-09 02:58 PM   #85 
           - A lot of our representatives would, I'm afraid  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:19 PM   #98 
  - Why put a false statement on any public building?  Blue For You   Jul-20-09 12:27 PM   #70 
  - Jean Sheperd said it best  Zomby Woof   Jul-20-09 12:41 PM   #74 
  - It's Actually A Blasphemy For Most  Senator   Jul-20-09 12:51 PM   #76 
  - Has any Christian group ever used that argument to speak against this sort of thing? -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-20-09 12:58 PM   #78 
     - The first law of the theist, is don't condemn other theists.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-20-09 03:01 PM   #86 
     - Not with any high visibility that I'm aware.  Senator   Jul-20-09 06:06 PM   #117 
  - I ain't afraid  GreatCaesarsGhost   Jul-20-09 02:43 PM   #84 
  - Great song! nt  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:30 PM   #100 
  - And sometimes people wonder why atheists can be a little paranoid.....  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 04:25 PM   #99 
  - The only thing missing was an attempt to re-brand us "Atheist Fundamentalists"  TokenQueer   Jul-20-09 04:43 PM   #101 
     - Hey, TokenQueer!  tbyg52   Jul-20-09 05:10 PM   #110 
        - Thanks!  TokenQueer   Jul-20-09 06:50 PM   #123 
  - In God We Trust  KamaAina   Jul-20-09 06:08 PM   #118 
  - Where is the ATM at then?  nolabels   Jul-21-09 08:12 AM   #135 
  - Well, they'd be hating life in Canada.  mamaleah   Jul-20-09 07:31 PM   #128 
     - But not the French version?  moggie   Jul-21-09 06:22 AM   #132 
     - Well, if that was the *only* place it appeared in the US  tbyg52   Jul-21-09 03:56 PM   #136 
 

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