Progressive_In_NC
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Sun Jul-19-09 09:29 AM
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| 23. I work for several pharmas, and if they do hold the cost of drugs in the USA |
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New medicines will cease to exist in just a few years.
The drug costs $54,000 because it took several BILLION dollars to get that drug to market. Then you have a finite group of users and you have to pay back the loans you took to go through multi-round FDA MANDATED (and rightfully so) clinical trials. Then you have to go to market with the drug and pay for the distribution of said drug. Then you have to figure in the costs of the Patient Assistance Programs (which I help run) for the poor among us.
Then you have to take into account that other coutries won't let you charge a balanced amount of money to recoup your investment so you have one market left to try to turn a profit on creating this drug....the US. The sad fact is, even if you took profit out of the cost of bringing the drug to the people, it would still cost around 45,000.00 a shot.
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| -NYT: Why We Must Ration Health Care |
FourScore |
Jul-18-09 11:01 PM |
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how about asking why that drug costs $54,000 |
Skittles |
Jul-18-09 11:03 PM |
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Far to easy! N/T |
obliviously |
Jul-18-09 11:08 PM |
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Yeah, really! How about asking that? |
scarletwoman |
Jul-18-09 11:11 PM |
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This is what happens in the UK's NHS. |
mwooldri |
Jul-18-09 11:35 PM |
#12 |
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I work for several pharmas, and if they do hold the cost of drugs in the USA |
Progressive_In_NC |
Jul-19-09 09:29 AM |
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Which New Medicines Would Those Be? |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:41 AM |
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And how much of that R&D was paid for out of taxpayer funds? |
Nickster |
Jul-19-09 09:46 AM |
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There are some drugs.... |
sendero |
Jul-19-09 10:16 AM |
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Isn't over half of that "R&D" spent on promotion? I see the drug reps bringing all kinds of gifts |
Liberal In Texas |
Jul-19-09 11:08 AM |
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A lot of these new medicines aren't new at all |
Raineyb |
Jul-19-09 03:36 PM |
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If prescriptions were free at point of delivery, |
mwooldri |
Jul-19-09 05:32 PM |
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There are many experts in the field who disagree with your |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-19-09 06:23 PM |
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Exactly! -nt |
crickets |
Jul-19-09 12:08 AM |
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Zing! |
slackmaster |
Jul-19-09 07:42 AM |
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No. That's Rationalizing |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:38 AM |
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That was my first thought. Why the fuck does it cost 54,000? |
NC_Nurse |
Jul-19-09 10:32 AM |
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Geez, the author of this is a "prize".... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:08 PM |
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Do they ration care in Canada or France? |
Wapsie B |
Jul-18-09 11:09 PM |
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No, if you are need of care, you receive it in Canada... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:12 PM |
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The common conservative answer to that is that you'll wait for months on end for things like MRI's |
Wapsie B |
Jul-19-09 10:32 AM |
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Yes, but the common conservative lies .... |
Spazito |
Jul-19-09 10:36 AM |
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Yes, but they also ration military interventionism. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-09 11:14 PM |
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Do they ration care in Canada or France? |
Wapsie B |
Jul-18-09 11:09 PM |
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Not as I understand it. |
glinda |
Jul-18-09 11:13 PM |
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Do they ration care in France |
mudplanet |
Jul-19-09 11:17 AM |
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Singer is interesting (it's kind of militant utilitarianism-- |
vixengrl |
Jul-18-09 11:25 PM |
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You know, without an OP, my answer feels pointless. |
vixengrl |
Jul-18-09 11:26 PM |
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Thanks for letting me know. I reposted it. |
FourScore |
Jul-18-09 11:54 PM |
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I am glad you reposted it as well... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:56 PM |
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We already ration healthcare... |
Duke Newcombe |
Jul-19-09 12:17 AM |
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I agree. |
EmilyAnne |
Jul-19-09 08:02 AM |
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Yes we do. |
alarimer |
Jul-19-09 10:24 AM |
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We Have Rationed Care Now |
Yavin4 |
Jul-19-09 12:24 AM |
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Exactly, insurance companies routinely refuse to pay for treatments |
subterranean |
Jul-19-09 06:38 AM |
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Great post. |
area51 |
Jul-19-09 10:53 AM |
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Everything is rationed, either by cost (have to have the money to obtain it), actual rationing |
pampango |
Jul-19-09 07:38 AM |
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I Wonder How Many CEOs Hear, "Sorry, Previous Condition." |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:45 AM |
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On the other hand, if cataract operations had been rationed |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 07:59 AM |
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I Had Two MRIs |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:48 AM |
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By any chance, are you out in Nevada? It's my impression |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 09:57 AM |
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Nope |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 10:06 AM |
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I think your experience is more evidence of the need to get the profit motive |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 11:52 AM |
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You want rationing, Pete? |
City Lights |
Jul-19-09 09:32 AM |
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Your damn right its worth it |
yodoobo |
Jul-19-09 10:05 AM |
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To keep the for profit medical industry profitable care must be rationed. |
ipaint |
Jul-19-09 11:25 AM |
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There Are Two Sides..... |
Techn0Girl |
Jul-19-09 02:57 PM |
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Oh my.... |
Spazito |
Jul-19-09 03:08 PM |
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Dick Cheney... |
City Lights |
Jul-19-09 03:13 PM |
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I'm really not sure of your point here... |
Techn0Girl |
Jul-19-09 03:31 PM |
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What they are really, really afraid of . . . |
abumbyanyothername |
Jul-19-09 03:40 PM |
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Ding! You got it. -nt |
crickets |
Jul-19-09 04:08 PM |
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We DO ration health care, you f*cking maroons. nt |
bemildred |
Jul-19-09 05:35 PM |
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good. Give Up Yours First |
cap |
Jul-19-09 05:53 PM |
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People still listen to that psycho? nt |
anonymous171 |
Jul-19-09 06:31 PM |
#54 |
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