Yavin4
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:24 AM
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| 17. We Have Rationed Care Now |
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HMOs won't pay for certain treatments NOW!
HMOs decide what doctor you can see and for what treatment, NOW!
Healthcare is rationed NOW!
This is a false argument.
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| -NYT: Why We Must Ration Health Care |
FourScore |
Jul-18-09 11:01 PM |
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how about asking why that drug costs $54,000 |
Skittles |
Jul-18-09 11:03 PM |
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Far to easy! N/T |
obliviously |
Jul-18-09 11:08 PM |
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Yeah, really! How about asking that? |
scarletwoman |
Jul-18-09 11:11 PM |
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This is what happens in the UK's NHS. |
mwooldri |
Jul-18-09 11:35 PM |
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I work for several pharmas, and if they do hold the cost of drugs in the USA |
Progressive_In_NC |
Jul-19-09 09:29 AM |
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Which New Medicines Would Those Be? |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:41 AM |
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And how much of that R&D was paid for out of taxpayer funds? |
Nickster |
Jul-19-09 09:46 AM |
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There are some drugs.... |
sendero |
Jul-19-09 10:16 AM |
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Isn't over half of that "R&D" spent on promotion? I see the drug reps bringing all kinds of gifts |
Liberal In Texas |
Jul-19-09 11:08 AM |
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A lot of these new medicines aren't new at all |
Raineyb |
Jul-19-09 03:36 PM |
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If prescriptions were free at point of delivery, |
mwooldri |
Jul-19-09 05:32 PM |
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There are many experts in the field who disagree with your |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-19-09 06:23 PM |
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Exactly! -nt |
crickets |
Jul-19-09 12:08 AM |
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Zing! |
slackmaster |
Jul-19-09 07:42 AM |
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No. That's Rationalizing |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:38 AM |
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That was my first thought. Why the fuck does it cost 54,000? |
NC_Nurse |
Jul-19-09 10:32 AM |
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Geez, the author of this is a "prize".... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:08 PM |
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Do they ration care in Canada or France? |
Wapsie B |
Jul-18-09 11:09 PM |
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No, if you are need of care, you receive it in Canada... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:12 PM |
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The common conservative answer to that is that you'll wait for months on end for things like MRI's |
Wapsie B |
Jul-19-09 10:32 AM |
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Yes, but the common conservative lies .... |
Spazito |
Jul-19-09 10:36 AM |
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Yes, but they also ration military interventionism. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-09 11:14 PM |
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Do they ration care in Canada or France? |
Wapsie B |
Jul-18-09 11:09 PM |
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Not as I understand it. |
glinda |
Jul-18-09 11:13 PM |
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Do they ration care in France |
mudplanet |
Jul-19-09 11:17 AM |
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Singer is interesting (it's kind of militant utilitarianism-- |
vixengrl |
Jul-18-09 11:25 PM |
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You know, without an OP, my answer feels pointless. |
vixengrl |
Jul-18-09 11:26 PM |
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Thanks for letting me know. I reposted it. |
FourScore |
Jul-18-09 11:54 PM |
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I am glad you reposted it as well... |
Spazito |
Jul-18-09 11:56 PM |
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We already ration healthcare... |
Duke Newcombe |
Jul-19-09 12:17 AM |
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I agree. |
EmilyAnne |
Jul-19-09 08:02 AM |
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Yes we do. |
alarimer |
Jul-19-09 10:24 AM |
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We Have Rationed Care Now |
Yavin4 |
Jul-19-09 12:24 AM |
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Exactly, insurance companies routinely refuse to pay for treatments |
subterranean |
Jul-19-09 06:38 AM |
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Great post. |
area51 |
Jul-19-09 10:53 AM |
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Everything is rationed, either by cost (have to have the money to obtain it), actual rationing |
pampango |
Jul-19-09 07:38 AM |
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I Wonder How Many CEOs Hear, "Sorry, Previous Condition." |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:45 AM |
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On the other hand, if cataract operations had been rationed |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 07:59 AM |
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I Had Two MRIs |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 09:48 AM |
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By any chance, are you out in Nevada? It's my impression |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 09:57 AM |
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Nope |
NashVegas |
Jul-19-09 10:06 AM |
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I think your experience is more evidence of the need to get the profit motive |
hedgehog |
Jul-19-09 11:52 AM |
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You want rationing, Pete? |
City Lights |
Jul-19-09 09:32 AM |
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Your damn right its worth it |
yodoobo |
Jul-19-09 10:05 AM |
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To keep the for profit medical industry profitable care must be rationed. |
ipaint |
Jul-19-09 11:25 AM |
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There Are Two Sides..... |
Techn0Girl |
Jul-19-09 02:57 PM |
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Oh my.... |
Spazito |
Jul-19-09 03:08 PM |
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Dick Cheney... |
City Lights |
Jul-19-09 03:13 PM |
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I'm really not sure of your point here... |
Techn0Girl |
Jul-19-09 03:31 PM |
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What they are really, really afraid of . . . |
abumbyanyothername |
Jul-19-09 03:40 PM |
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Ding! You got it. -nt |
crickets |
Jul-19-09 04:08 PM |
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We DO ration health care, you f*cking maroons. nt |
bemildred |
Jul-19-09 05:35 PM |
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good. Give Up Yours First |
cap |
Jul-19-09 05:53 PM |
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People still listen to that psycho? nt |
anonymous171 |
Jul-19-09 06:31 PM |
#54 |
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