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25. Bourgeois criticism of people who can't afford a 3x increase in their food prices, noted.
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  -Just a reminder about things like organic foods. Tim01  Jul-18-09 12:39 PM   #0 
  - So how is your organic farm going?  itsrobert   Jul-18-09 12:42 PM   #1 
  - I raise enough beef and chicken for my family. That's it.  Tim01   Jul-18-09 12:46 PM   #3 
     - Good thing you don't live in Brooklyn or Oakland or Chicago...  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 12:59 PM   #16 
        - I lived in D.C. Descent food is available. But it does take effort.  Tim01   Jul-18-09 01:20 PM   #26 
        - Effort is measured in time. What else do you do with your time? Do you politically organize?  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:38 PM   #29 
           - Did Tim say he was better than anyone else? ....  truth2power   Jul-18-09 05:29 PM   #100 
              - really...what a bunch of judgmental aholes, eh?  Gabi Hayes   Jul-18-09 05:44 PM   #101 
              - "Way too much free-floating crankiness." Amen and Hallelujah, truth2power.  bertman   Jul-19-09 12:48 AM   #121 
        - Urban farms are growing everywhere  conscious evolution   Jul-18-09 01:50 PM   #40 
           - Atlanta wasn't on that list. And the working class shouldn't have to be peasants too.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:56 PM   #46 
           - organize against major corporations  conscious evolution   Jul-18-09 06:26 PM   #107 
           - Great! The Universialist Church in  Cha   Jul-18-09 02:23 PM   #58 
  - Some of us don't have the $$ to make the choice  varelse   Jul-18-09 12:43 PM   #2 
  - Organics are a croc anyhow  itsrobert   Jul-18-09 12:48 PM   #5 
  - Organically grown fruits and vegetables are yummy :)  varelse   Jul-18-09 01:05 PM   #19 
  - That's not true of all organics if you know what you're doing.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:06 PM   #20 
  - My neighborhood earns earn $9K per capita and work 70 hours a day. Explain  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:43 PM   #34 
     - I'm not but...  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:49 PM   #38 
  - It's illegal to use the "organic" label if the product doesn't meet the  Liquorice   Jul-18-09 02:31 PM   #59 
  - Unfortunately, corporate ag  hippywife   Jul-18-09 02:39 PM   #62 
  - What a shame! I buy locally when I can. nt  Liquorice   Jul-18-09 02:51 PM   #68 
  - Do you have a link to the laws and penalties concerning using the "organic" label?  NNN0LHI   Jul-18-09 07:21 PM   #110 
  - That is why I am getting veggies from a local CSA organic farmer  csziggy   Jul-18-09 02:39 PM   #63 
  - listen, wise guy, do you know ANYthing about CSA?  Gabi Hayes   Jul-18-09 05:45 PM   #102 
  - +100 n/t  lildreamer316   Jul-18-09 07:15 PM   #109 
  - It isn't like most of the organic food isn't corporate owned. You just help em profit more  Oregone   Jul-18-09 12:46 PM   #4 
  - Yup, "organic" at the stores is just marketing  itsrobert   Jul-18-09 12:53 PM   #7 
  - Yep. Mostly owned by massive food processors.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 12:55 PM   #13 
  - Even "Tom's of Maine" is now owned by Colgate...  KansDem   Jul-18-09 12:53 PM   #10 
  - I know. We don't use that tooth paste anymore so I don't care  Oregone   Jul-18-09 12:55 PM   #14 
  - Sure local is better. But you have to give people a fighting chance.  Tim01   Jul-18-09 12:56 PM   #15 
  - Farmers Market's are almost everywhere  Oregone   Jul-18-09 01:15 PM   #24 
  - Good Point  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 01:02 PM   #17 
  - and what effects has your tinfoil hat caused?  harmonicon   Jul-18-09 05:48 PM   #103 
  - Nutrition 101  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 09:48 PM   #115 
     - I'll keep my pasteurized juice and milk, thank you very much  harmonicon   Jul-18-09 09:55 PM   #117 
        - The Cancer Train  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 11:09 PM   #119 
           - choo-choo - all aboard!!  harmonicon   Jul-19-09 12:42 AM   #120 
  - I would vouch for Odwalla. They had the FDA out after them after  truedelphi   Jul-18-09 05:52 PM   #104 
  - Botulism?  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 09:37 PM   #114 
     - Agree with you there. Sadly we have become a society in which one in a million  truedelphi   Jul-19-09 04:11 PM   #124 
  - Do you remember what happened with Odwalla and the E Coli problem?  mamaleah   Jul-19-09 01:32 AM   #123 
  - If you show the whole chart  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:08 PM   #21 
     - Knowledge  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 09:52 PM   #116 
  - Yes, I think of that when I spend my $$$ on most anything.  Lex   Jul-18-09 12:50 PM   #6 
  - That's the way to go  itsrobert   Jul-18-09 12:54 PM   #11 
  - I have the money to buy organic, so I do  XanaDUer   Jul-18-09 12:53 PM   #8 
  - And that is the point the OP is trying to make.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:55 PM   #45 
  - And shift the blame on the working class. To hell with consumer politics.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 12:53 PM   #9 
  - +1  Oregone   Jul-18-09 12:54 PM   #12 
  - Well said!  varelse   Jul-18-09 01:13 PM   #22 
  - What's worse is that this type of thinking leads to some really dark stuff.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:27 PM   #27 
     - How often have you heard statements like  varelse   Jul-18-09 02:18 PM   #56 
  - The point is, if people who can afford good organics make a point  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 01:50 PM   #39 
  - Yeah but it hasn't worked that way.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:12 PM   #53 
     - The ONLY solution to the problem of state-sanctioned industrial power is  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 02:47 PM   #66 
        - Because its an individualist solution that privileges the ruling classes that are  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:21 PM   #88 
  - Again, you are projecting.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:22 PM   #75 
     - Telling people they're failing to consume properly is absolutely scolding.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:56 PM   #97 
     - Well, the person you responded to is scolding  Lorien   Jul-18-09 08:36 PM   #112 
  - I'm certainly not going to "vote" for food that's 3x as expensive.  BlooInBloo   Jul-18-09 01:03 PM   #18 
  - The cost of the mainstream food in the grocery  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:13 PM   #23 
     - Bourgeois criticism of people who can't afford a 3x increase in their food prices, noted.  BlooInBloo   Jul-18-09 01:17 PM   #25 
        - That was not bourgeois.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:42 PM   #32 
        - "you totally disregarded the point..." - Of course I did - you disregarded it yourself...  BlooInBloo   Jul-18-09 01:51 PM   #42 
           - How in the world did I  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:53 PM   #44 
        - Try figuring in the medical costs for those who each cheap crap  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 01:53 PM   #43 
        - Glad you have a good job. Good for you.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:02 PM   #48 
           - Don't give me that bullshit.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 02:34 PM   #60 
        - Ooh, we can talk about class now? That's usually forbidden.  Flaneur   Jul-18-09 02:17 PM   #55 
           - "Progressives" who think working class people are their own problem because  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:43 PM   #64 
              - I just went back and read the OP. I don't see any condescension.  Flaneur   Jul-18-09 02:59 PM   #71 
                 - Oh, the poor upper-middle classes who drive Volvos! Who will stand for them?  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:45 PM   #93 
  - The "Organic" label in this country is a total fucking hoax and cruel joke.  Stinky The Clown   Jul-18-09 01:31 PM   #28 
  - Not to mention the small local organic farms that can't afford the organic certification.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:40 PM   #30 
     - We buy local from our coop.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 01:46 PM   #37 
        - I can't afford co-op food. And neither can my neighbor with 2 teenage boys.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:01 PM   #47 
           - For the last time, I repeat...  hippywife   Jul-18-09 02:08 PM   #51 
              - You're lucky you live in a good area.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:38 PM   #61 
                 - I hate to tell you this but  hippywife   Jul-18-09 02:43 PM   #65 
                    - Yes everything is a political issue but that doesn't mean every act is a political act.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:58 PM   #69 
                       - The "lifestyle" one chooses can be and  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:08 PM   #72 
                          - If you're fighting the USDA, then it is a political act. I wasn't really directing my comments to  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 03:58 PM   #82 
                             - There is nothing ambivalent about it at all.  hippywife   Jul-18-09 04:13 PM   #87 
  - As much as I disagree with you on just about everything  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-18-09 01:41 PM   #31 
  - Ok, I get it. You can't do anything. You just can't. And it doesn't matter anyway.  Tim01   Jul-18-09 01:43 PM   #33 
  - How about you spend some of that cooking and gardening time politically organizing  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:45 PM   #36 
  - Political consumerism?  Orwellian_Ghost   Jul-18-09 01:44 PM   #35 
  - Seriously. The next person who tells me I should buy organic better be organizing to take down  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 01:50 PM   #41 
     - What is your problem with having a garden?  Flaneur   Jul-18-09 02:08 PM   #50 
     - Because people in NYC don't have 250 square feet. And people in Texas all lost their gardens  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 02:20 PM   #57 
        - People in NYC have access to lots of CSAs  Flaneur   Jul-18-09 02:51 PM   #67 
        - Hey and you're not too busy pounding away at the keyboard ridiculing political organizers  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 03:22 PM   #76 
        - Just because you work on the issues  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:19 PM   #74 
        - I'm not "damning" anyone for working at a CSA or buying organic. But I am for blaming others who  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 03:39 PM   #79 
           - But no one here ever once  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:46 PM   #80 
              - The OP is, in fact, scolding people for not eating better and blaming the consumer.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:08 PM   #85 
                 - There's no good reason I can even begin to think of  hippywife   Jul-18-09 04:23 PM   #89 
                    - I can give you an example why I drank a can of soda recently.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:53 PM   #96 
        - And if you want to talk about the issue of food security  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:34 PM   #78 
     - We do have an organic garden and raise our own  hippywife   Jul-18-09 02:14 PM   #54 
  - I don't understand the sneering rejoinders to the OP.  Flaneur   Jul-18-09 02:03 PM   #49 
  - Reason #whatever that I'm vegan.  flvegan   Jul-18-09 02:12 PM   #52 
  - Vegetarian here. Not worried about buying organic meats.  RebelOne   Jul-18-09 02:58 PM   #70 
  - Thank you!!! And becoming more and more plant-based is good for the planet!  only_one_sky   Jul-18-09 03:09 PM   #73 
  - This person was TS'd  hippywife   Jul-18-09 04:04 PM   #83 
     - I'm guessing that it was a new account set up by someone who already has an account...  harmonicon   Jul-18-09 05:53 PM   #105 
     - Their Profile is Granite Pizza must be mistaken...  KoKo   Jul-18-09 08:29 PM   #111 
        - Look again.  flvegan   Jul-18-09 08:38 PM   #113 
  - In the big picture, I'm not sure if there's much room for change.  Silent3   Jul-18-09 03:27 PM   #77 
  - Natural=GOOD! Artificial=BAD!  hippywife   Jul-18-09 03:54 PM   #81 
     - Look at the increase in human lifespan over the past 100 years.  Silent3   Jul-18-09 04:32 PM   #90 
     - I think the life span is now on the  hippywife   Jul-18-09 04:39 PM   #92 
        - As the saying goes, "the plural of anecdote is not data".  Silent3   Jul-18-09 04:50 PM   #95 
     - Agree  Kalun D   Jul-18-09 10:11 PM   #118 
  - Since the Supreme Court has given money the status of speech...  Orsino   Jul-18-09 04:07 PM   #84 
  - You are right. Thx for the reminder. Altho most people can't afford organic.  Honeycombe8   Jul-18-09 04:09 PM   #86 
  - to each according to his/her ability  JitterbugPerfume   Jul-18-09 04:34 PM   #91 
  - A voice of reason! Thank you. It's simple...We should all do what we CAN do..  truth2power   Jul-18-09 05:58 PM   #106 
  - So, you're telling poor people not only to ...what, spend the rent money on expensive food,  bobbolink   Jul-18-09 04:49 PM   #94 
  - I'll let you take it from here.  readmoreoften   Jul-18-09 04:57 PM   #98 
     - Too bad you didn't "waste" time actually considering the real ability of people with less $$$$  bobbolink   Jul-18-09 05:02 PM   #99 
  - Here's the problem with so-called "organic" foods  MajorChode   Jul-18-09 07:12 PM   #108 
  - Political action is important, but so is personal action. Those of us who can afford to buy  bertman   Jul-19-09 12:58 AM   #122 

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