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Sat Jul-18-09 10:31 AM
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| 27. did he actually say that? |
| -OBAMA: "No longer will you be without health insurance, even if you lose your job or change jobs" |
kpete |
Jul-18-09 08:37 AM |
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Is the idea that someone who gets insurance through his job and gets fired... |
Eric J in MN |
Jul-18-09 08:42 AM |
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You guys need to pay more attention |
Hutzpa |
Jul-18-09 08:53 AM |
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So the private insurance company would be obligated to sell you their insurance after you got fired |
Eric J in MN |
Jul-18-09 09:01 AM |
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Yes, and under the new bill, if you lose your job and collecting unemployment, you get subsidized. |
backscatter712 |
Jul-18-09 09:09 AM |
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Insurance. Health insurance would be more affordable. |
enlightenment |
Jul-18-09 09:44 AM |
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No INSURANCE might be more affordable |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 10:58 AM |
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You get the government option |
Hutzpa |
Jul-18-09 09:09 AM |
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I've already picked my old plan for COBRA... |
cascadiance |
Jul-18-09 09:51 AM |
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No. Hold on. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 10:35 AM |
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I'm liking this--it sounds like it will allow me to get out of my miserable marriage. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-18-09 11:09 AM |
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The biggest problem with the bill is the fact that it doesnt take effect until 2013. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 11:16 AM |
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Ouch. I'll keep my head up and hope the job prospects improve. |
blondeatlast |
Jul-18-09 12:52 PM |
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You could stop the public plan and go to new employer's plan, if you want. |
Honeycombe8 |
Jul-18-09 11:32 AM |
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When you get rehired, you have the option of taking the new job's plan |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 10:25 AM |
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If the public option were properly done it shouldn't cost anything, and would ALWAYS be cheaper! |
cascadiance |
Jul-18-09 10:32 AM |
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Excluding pre existing conditions is outlawed by this bill. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 10:43 AM |
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Rates can vary by age, area and family enrollment |
SpartanDem |
Jul-18-09 11:32 AM |
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Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 12:35 PM |
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Can they still charge deductibles or only cover a percentage of some hospital procedures... |
cascadiance |
Jul-18-09 12:09 PM |
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In the lower tier plans, there are still co-pays. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 12:39 PM |
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Yes - only now out-of-pocket with be called "cost sharing" |
dflprincess |
Jul-18-09 10:22 PM |
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"...just as long as you make your mandated premium payments...." |
Coyote_Bandit |
Jul-18-09 08:45 AM |
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Yup |
Hydra |
Jul-18-09 09:31 AM |
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did he actually say that? |
WI_DEM |
Jul-18-09 10:31 AM |
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nice in theory |
Bill McBlueState |
Jul-18-09 08:48 AM |
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You keep your health plan if you lose your job n/t |
Hutzpa |
Jul-18-09 08:56 AM |
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HELLO! If I'm sick I want health CARE not fucking health insurance. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-18-09 08:59 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-18-09 09:00 AM |
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What? |
Curtland1015 |
Jul-18-09 09:02 AM |
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Health care means that you will be appropriately treated for whatever ails you.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-18-09 09:07 AM |
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You get health care from medical professionals - what you also need is a way for someone to pay |
stray cat |
Jul-18-09 09:18 AM |
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And that is why more rational societies invented single-payer. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-18-09 09:39 AM |
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No doubt... |
nebenaube |
Jul-18-09 10:26 AM |
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+1 |
dflprincess |
Jul-18-09 10:24 PM |
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+1....exactly. n/t |
Hepburn |
Jul-18-09 09:24 AM |
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Amen! We need health CARE reform, NOT |
liberalhistorian |
Jul-18-09 09:41 AM |
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+100 |
kath |
Jul-18-09 11:03 AM |
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Well, then move to the UK. |
Frank Booth |
Jul-18-09 10:29 AM |
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Would that it were that easy |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 10:31 AM |
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It's less ridiculous than demanding single payer or bust, |
Frank Booth |
Jul-18-09 11:00 AM |
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nice to know you consider it whining |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 11:03 AM |
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If there's 0% chance we'll get single payer, but those who want it won't support a plan |
Frank Booth |
Jul-18-09 11:20 AM |
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There's a bill with an effective public option? |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 11:22 AM |
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Not yet, but there's a chance that there will be. |
Frank Booth |
Jul-18-09 11:26 AM |
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Where the chance is certainly 0% if you don't bother to try to insist on it |
Raineyb |
Jul-18-09 12:46 PM |
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I haven't seen a plan with an effective public option. |
ipaint |
Jul-18-09 01:18 PM |
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Insurance pays for the care, but the care needs to be controlled too... |
Deja Q |
Jul-18-09 12:37 PM |
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But how much will it cost? |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-18-09 09:20 AM |
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well i'm glad to see insurance companies making out in an economy where the rest of us |
xchrom |
Jul-18-09 09:52 AM |
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I hate to tell you this, but I don't want health "insurance". I want a |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-18-09 10:22 AM |
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yes |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 10:24 AM |
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+2! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jul-18-09 10:31 AM |
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I have insurance, but I am underinsured |
niceypoo |
Jul-18-09 10:35 AM |
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The bill creates three tiers of service level. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 11:05 AM |
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I'm self employed and without work |
Lorien |
Jul-18-09 11:20 AM |
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If your income is below 133% of FPL, your coverage is free. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 12:11 PM |
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Obama & the Democratic Congress have already BLOWN it. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Jul-18-09 10:36 AM |
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That's right - pry off the parasites and kill 'em dead - it's way past time for them to go. |
kath |
Jul-18-09 11:06 AM |
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How about if you just haven't had a job for like five years |
shadowknows69 |
Jul-18-09 10:47 AM |
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The house bill forces large (over 20 employees) to provide good insurance... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 11:02 AM |
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Cool. Too cynical to be hopeful until I get an official letter lol. |
shadowknows69 |
Jul-18-09 11:04 AM |
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I don't want insurance. Insurance is what stands between the patient and |
Lorien |
Jul-18-09 11:18 AM |
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President Obama's statement indicating you or your employer can choose the public option is false |
Better Believe It |
Jul-18-09 11:22 AM |
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You're either here working |
Hutzpa |
Jul-18-09 11:32 AM |
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read the bills |
ibegurpard |
Jul-18-09 11:33 AM |
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Read the bill. Facts are facts. Do you want me to present the hard facts in this string? |
Better Believe It |
Jul-18-09 11:39 AM |
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It is the intent of the bill that employers be allowed to eventually participate in the exchange. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 12:34 PM |
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K&R |
Wednesdays |
Jul-18-09 09:56 PM |
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Fuck insurance. What about CARE? |
eridani |
Jul-19-09 02:31 AM |
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+1 |
strategery blunder |
Jul-19-09 03:05 AM |
#70 |
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