TahitiNut
(1000+ posts)
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Fri Jul-17-09 12:05 PM
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| 16. In the Jim Crow south, the only thing lower than a "n_____" was ... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 12:17 PM by TahitiNut
... a "n_____-lover." That was ALL about race ... and the threat of violence or death (e.g. "Mississippi Burning") for the unforgivable social sin of being a "traitor to race." Such attitudes aren't in the soil or controlled by the calendar ... and were not limited to just the south or just THAT time.
We each live in a different world. We look out at our personal world and "see" a very unique and personal reality. From the glances of other people one passes on the street, to the body language of bureaucrats with whom we must interact, to the attitudes of business people, to the posture of the teachers in our schools, to the reaction of potential employers (or mates), we are inundated with impressions both overt and subliminal. Further, we are each equipped and trained to frame that daily, hourly, and minute-by-minute experience -- even when viewing visual media (magazines, TV, movies) and seeing other with whome we can relate to one degree or another. We react. We tell ourselves our "stories" ... almost without noticing. Continuously. While it's easy to oversimplify and pretend there are larger, shared worlds, the reality is they're each unique. When we buy in to the oversimplifications, we lose.
When I keep this in mind, I find that I'm more inclined to make those individual worlds better places as I travel through them by my glance or attitude or expression ... in that moment in time that I pass another human being. In so doing, I actually find myself improving my own world.
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Is it possible for a white male to be discriminated against |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 11:45 AM |
#0 |

It is possible for one white male to be discriminated against |
Cant trust em |
Jul-17-09 11:46 AM |
#1 |
 
Please explain: "in terms of systematic discrimination, no" |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 11:48 AM |
#3 |

I think he means that in America, Whites and White Males have most of the power. |
el_bryanto |
Jul-17-09 12:02 PM |
#14 |

Right. But does it follow that it's somehow OK to discriminate against certain persons |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 12:08 PM |
#17 |

No of course it's not ok; it's just not a societal problem |
el_bryanto |
Jul-17-09 12:11 PM |
#20 |

I don't think you acknowledge that discrimination is wrong on one hand, |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 12:22 PM |
#24 |

So you think that white males are the ones who have it rough in our society? |
el_bryanto |
Jul-17-09 12:38 PM |
#30 |
 
I think the lower classes are the ones who have it rough, full stop. |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 12:42 PM |
#32 |

I think it's a combination of the two |
el_bryanto |
Jul-17-09 12:57 PM |
#35 |
 
I largely agree with you. |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 01:04 PM |
#38 |

Of course, a poor white can educate himself out of being poor, |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-17-09 01:07 PM |
#39 |

Your argument is a variation of the "bootstraps" argument, no? |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 01:14 PM |
#42 |
 
Exceptional individuals can often overcome their backgrounds - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-17-09 01:42 PM |
#51 |
  
Both of the lower income men will be discriminated against on the basis of class all of their lives. |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 01:51 PM |
#56 |
 
As someone who lives in New Haven, home of Yale U., I agree with you completely. |
CTyankee |
Jul-17-09 08:08 PM |
#74 |

Exactly |
KatyMan |
Jul-17-09 01:16 PM |
#45 |

Exactly. |
kiva |
Jul-17-09 12:43 PM |
#33 |

Yes it is... |
BolivarianHero |
Jul-17-09 11:47 AM |
#2 |
 
You have never lived in Hawai'i |
arcadian |
Jul-17-09 12:13 PM |
#22 |

Of course |
plcdude |
Jul-17-09 11:48 AM |
#4 |
 
I know I have |
guitar man |
Jul-17-09 12:23 PM |
#25 |

Yes, because the percentage of white males who are incarcerated against those not... |
valerief |
Jul-17-09 11:50 AM |
#5 |

It's acceptable to discriminate against white males in our society, especially if blue collar |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 11:51 AM |
#6 |
 
I don't care how poor you are. Being white gives you higher social status. |
dolphindance |
Jul-17-09 12:38 PM |
#31 |
  
I don't care what color you are. Being rich trumps all else in the USA. |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 12:45 PM |
#34 |
 
:-) |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 04:55 PM |
#63 |

Yes, at my last place of employment we preferred to hire women. n/t |
Gwendolyn |
Jul-17-09 11:52 AM |
#7 |

*looks at calendar* Is today "national ask a stupid question day"? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-17-09 11:56 AM |
#8 |
 
No. That day is election day. |
Cant trust em |
Jul-17-09 12:00 PM |
#13 |
 
Considering the "yes" and "no" answers are about equally divided, |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 10:43 PM |
#76 |

Anyone who believes that it is impossible to discriminate against white men |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-18-09 11:48 AM |
#82 |

and now you know that, indeed, *many* "liberals" believe exactly that |
leftofthedial |
Jul-19-09 12:45 AM |
#83 |

Yes but it depends on the situation. |
Avalux |
Jul-17-09 11:56 AM |
#9 |

It is if you believe that there is a serious problem |
kiva |
Jul-17-09 11:56 AM |
#10 |

In politics Perception is reality. Large groups of Americans would |
OHdem10 |
Jul-17-09 11:56 AM |
#11 |

Possible, sure. |
SidneyCarton |
Jul-17-09 11:59 AM |
#12 |

Only in extremely limited, fringe situations. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-17-09 12:02 PM |
#15 |

In the Jim Crow south, the only thing lower than a "n_____" was ... |
TahitiNut |
Jul-17-09 12:05 PM |
#16 |
 
CORE...just to vote, just to vote. |
Peacetrain |
Jul-17-09 12:19 PM |
#23 |

Yup. It happened the same week I left the "Heart of Dixie" to move back north. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-17-09 12:30 PM |
#28 |

If I sit and look back, and stay too long in that memory. |
Peacetrain |
Jul-17-09 01:44 PM |
#54 |

Absolutely. It's possible for anyone to be discriminated against |
MADem |
Jul-17-09 12:08 PM |
#18 |

Any human can be discriminated against for a myriad of reasons (excuses). |
Palin delenda est |
Jul-17-09 12:11 PM |
#19 |

Sure, but it's not institutionalized. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Jul-17-09 12:13 PM |
#21 |

Yes. |
Iggo |
Jul-17-09 12:26 PM |
#26 |

Of course it is. It's possible for anyone to be discriminated against. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-17-09 12:28 PM |
#27 |

Of Course |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jul-17-09 12:32 PM |
#29 |

Individuals can discriminate against individuals |
noamnety |
Jul-17-09 12:59 PM |
#36 |

In my opinion, yes. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Jul-17-09 12:59 PM |
#37 |

Of course it is. |
Deja Q |
Jul-17-09 01:09 PM |
#40 |

Sure. |
Orsino |
Jul-17-09 01:11 PM |
#41 |

Assuming the ACTUAL history of the ACTUAL country? Or some fantasy history? |
BlooInBloo |
Jul-17-09 01:14 PM |
#43 |
 
We live in the present day, not in history. The question is phrased in the present tense. nt |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 02:16 PM |
#57 |

Ah - so the fantasy history of NO history. Genius... Then sure... |
BlooInBloo |
Jul-17-09 02:27 PM |
#60 |

History must NEVER be disregarded, but it is not an excuse. |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 02:33 PM |
#61 |

They're working on that fantasy history right now: |
noamnety |
Jul-18-09 12:19 AM |
#81 |

Not a legitimate question. |
moondust |
Jul-17-09 01:16 PM |
#44 |
 
It is a hit and run posting. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-17-09 01:34 PM |
#48 |

The OP has over 1000 posts. I highly doubt he's going to now run away from the forum. |
Bonn1997 |
Jul-17-09 01:40 PM |
#50 |

A "hit and run posting" is starting a flamebait stink bomb, then leaving the scene. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-17-09 01:48 PM |
#55 |

interruptions happen in life. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 05:01 PM |
#66 |

Okey Dokey, if that's your story. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-17-09 07:59 PM |
#71 |

That's magnanimous of you! |
leftofthedial |
Jul-18-09 12:14 AM |
#78 |

You're welcome. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-18-09 12:17 AM |
#80 |

Yes, |
proteus_lives |
Jul-17-09 01:28 PM |
#46 |

I suppose it's possible in very specific situations... |
LeftishBrit |
Jul-17-09 01:33 PM |
#47 |

Anyone can be discriminated against. What's the topic? Athletics? A job where empathy is important? |
Bonn1997 |
Jul-17-09 01:38 PM |
#49 |

Theoretically, yes. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jul-17-09 01:43 PM |
#52 |

Sure, but being discriminated against for age is a much bigger problem |
slackmaster |
Jul-17-09 01:44 PM |
#53 |
 
The number one basis for discriminating against a person in the US is $$$ |
Romulox |
Jul-17-09 02:18 PM |
#58 |
  
ABSOLUTELY true. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 05:05 PM |
#68 |
 
that's certainly been my experience. |
leftofthedial |
Jul-17-09 05:13 PM |
#70 |

White male non-veterans have no legal preferences |
FarCenter |
Jul-17-09 02:19 PM |
#59 |
 
ooof. |
noamnety |
Jul-17-09 08:03 PM |
#73 |

No. |
Xenotime |
Jul-17-09 02:35 PM |
#62 |

Not in our country. |
undeterred |
Jul-17-09 04:59 PM |
#64 |

YES! If you want an example, go to any family court-room in America. NT |
aaaaaa5a |
Jul-17-09 05:01 PM |
#65 |

IMO, it is possible for ANYONE to be discriminated against. n/t |
Hepburn |
Jul-17-09 05:03 PM |
#67 |

Duh! |
lunatica |
Jul-17-09 05:06 PM |
#69 |

Yes anyone can be. |
heppcatt |
Jul-17-09 08:02 PM |
#72 |

its possible for discrimination to happen to anyone |
lexanman |
Jul-17-09 08:10 PM |
#75 |

I think a guy won a lawsuit against Hooters awhile back. |
rucky |
Jul-17-09 10:44 PM |
#77 |

Yes on both accounts. nt |
Liquorice |
Jul-18-09 12:17 AM |
#79 |