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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:03 AM
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20. Always the wrong argument
They should pay more because they benefit more from society and it's laws; it's merely a more accurate billing for services received.

This is a tidy and fair justification for the wealthy paying more into the system, and it frees one from the argument that it's socialistic thievery from the "good" to support the useless.

Forget arguments about the downtrodden, weak, infirm and all that, use the argument that so many functions of the government are to sustain and protect the prosperous, and taxation is simply proper billing. Why should a poor man pay to support the FDIC, SEC, military or any number of other line items? He gets nothing from them.

When arguing against a conservative, NEVER use "fairness" or "niceness" as an argument, and certainly don't use the ability to pay as a justification. Fashion arguments based on workability.
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  -Why should the wealthy pay more to support universal health care? twop  Jul-15-09 11:31 PM   #0 
  - Because if they don't, I'm going to cough on them!  hedgehog   Jul-15-09 11:32 PM   #1 
  - I like your style!  Javaman   Jul-16-09 11:30 AM   #34 
  - Yes. n/t  Tansy_Gold   Jul-15-09 11:32 PM   #2 
  - Exactly right.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-15-09 11:33 PM   #3 
  - Actually, Somolia is good...  sfwriter   Jul-15-09 11:34 PM   #4 
  - They should pay more because they can  goclark   Jul-15-09 11:40 PM   #5 
  - Hope that they don't start to hide their money in foreign banks  WillieW   Jul-16-09 12:37 PM   #41 
  - I don't care if its fair or not.  yodoobo   Jul-15-09 11:42 PM   #6 
  - So working people have disposable income  sandnsea   Jul-16-09 12:02 AM   #7 
  - This ^  ibegurpard   Jul-16-09 12:06 AM   #10 
  - Yep.  Political Heretic   Jul-16-09 11:14 AM   #30 
  - Because taxes are "revolution prevention insurance" for rich people  scheming daemons   Jul-16-09 12:04 AM   #8 
  - +1  mitchum   Jul-16-09 12:03 PM   #37 
  - I am not the religious type, but.....  Lisa0825   Jul-16-09 12:04 AM   #9 
  - I guess that in the part off the Bible that they don't read  Chisox08   Jul-16-09 09:37 AM   #26 
  - Because it is a free country.  hansberrym   Jul-16-09 12:06 AM   #11 
  - American millionaires and billionaires made their wealth from US!  Just-plain-Kathy   Jul-16-09 12:12 AM   #12 
  - Why should health insurance companies be protected  slipslidingaway   Jul-16-09 12:14 AM   #13 
  - If the f'n wealthy paid their workers enough  juno jones   Jul-16-09 12:15 AM   #14 
  - Everyone benefits from a healthy population  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-16-09 12:23 AM   #15 
  - Good point.  surrealAmerican   Jul-16-09 09:29 AM   #24 
  - Except in a few cases of Inherited wealth, the rich have become rich  OHdem10   Jul-16-09 12:33 AM   #16 
  - Rec  panader0   Jul-16-09 12:35 AM   #17 
  - It's a very small price to pay for the advantage  Dumak   Jul-16-09 01:02 AM   #18 
  - The benefits have to be seen in systemic terms  starroute   Jul-16-09 01:30 AM   #19 
  - Always the wrong argument  PurityOfEssence   Jul-16-09 03:03 AM   #20 
  - Because the wealthy have enjoyed ludicrous tax breaks in years past  Vinca   Jul-16-09 06:57 AM   #21 
  - Welcome to DU!  Strong Atheist   Jul-16-09 09:10 AM   #22 
  - Because all of MY money went to THEIR tax cuts? n/t  Horse with no Name   Jul-16-09 09:20 AM   #23 
  - That's An Immature, Losing Argument  NashVegas   Jul-16-09 09:35 AM   #25 
  - Welcome to DU  graywarrior   Jul-16-09 10:05 AM   #27 
  - !  Strong Atheist   Jul-16-09 11:08 AM   #29 
  - Sadly ...  Laelth   Jul-16-09 11:06 AM   #28 
  - Ha! What a great post from a disruptor. What did he do to be TSed?  Political Heretic   Jul-16-09 11:15 AM   #31 
  - Here:  Strong Atheist   Jul-16-09 11:57 AM   #36 
     - Wow.  Political Heretic   Jul-16-09 12:12 PM   #38 
  - Excellent arguments all around. It's an idea whose time has come.  timeforpeace   Jul-16-09 11:19 AM   #32 
  - "Why rob banks?" "Because that's where the money is."  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-16-09 11:21 AM   #33 
  - Not only can they afford more, their increased out sized consumption puts more wear and tear  Uncle Joe   Jul-16-09 11:50 AM   #35 
  - They Get The Money On The Backs of the Poor  we can do it   Jul-16-09 12:25 PM   #39 
  - These are people who don't even know how much money  EC   Jul-16-09 12:26 PM   #40 
  - IBTL?  FlyingSquirrel   Jul-16-09 03:14 PM   #42 
  - Locking  cbayer   Jul-16-09 03:21 PM   #43 

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