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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 07:42 PM
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60. National Insurance deductions in the UK.
Everyone who works pays something. Contributions are capped to an extent so the mega wealthy don't pay lots in... but National Insurance pays for it all. Plus the UK government pretty much owns and operates the health care system so they are in a position to wring every bit of efficiency out of it. Everyones' covered; the UK government pays 45% per head of population of what could be attributed to each individual in the USA, except of course 16%+ doesn't get any health benefits at all.
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  -I want to go to a hospital without being being handed a bill afterwards... MrScorpio  Jul-15-09 06:00 PM   #0 
  - I want to go to a hospital without having to prove I can afford it before admission  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:02 PM   #1 
  - Norway.  aquart   Jul-15-09 06:06 PM   #5 
  - I don't want to go to any hospital. nt  babylonsister   Jul-15-09 06:02 PM   #2 
  - From your lips to the ears of Congress....  Hepburn   Jul-15-09 06:02 PM   #3 
  - Well, in another 17 years, I'll be eligible for medicare  Merlot   Jul-15-09 06:06 PM   #4 
  - didn't need the disclaimer "another 17 years says it all".  unapatriciated   Jul-15-09 06:39 PM   #22 
  - You mean on top of the 62 years that have already gone by?  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-15-09 06:48 PM   #34 
  - I have Medicare, now. It ain't luxury, but at least I can get SOME care.  TahitiNut   Jul-15-09 06:51 PM   #35 
     - Like you said....better than nothing.  Hepburn   Jul-15-09 07:43 PM   #61 
     - The media(?) is reporting "they say" that there'll be spending cuts to Medicare ...  TahitiNut   Jul-15-09 08:31 PM   #69 
        - Thanks for the info...  Hepburn   Jul-15-09 09:21 PM   #79 
        - Yes, finish cutting off people like me. Thanks for your support,.  bobbolink   Jul-16-09 05:08 PM   #99 
     - Do you have just Medicare, no supplemental insurance?  CTyankee   Jul-16-09 03:45 PM   #90 
        - Yup, that's all. No supplemental and no Part D.  TahitiNut   Jul-16-09 04:15 PM   #92 
           - Do you pay more for drs. visits? What else is extra that would be covered w/a supplemental?  CTyankee   Jul-16-09 04:36 PM   #93 
              - I pay a co-pay, but my doctor keeps his fees low, knowing my financial situation.  TahitiNut   Jul-16-09 04:42 PM   #97 
                 - So you would go onto an expanded Medicaid program under the new health care reform?  CTyankee   Jul-16-09 05:05 PM   #98 
  - We'd have universal health care in 30 seconds if  Rick Myers   Jul-15-09 06:14 PM   #6 
  - But only if the top leadership can be in the 16% without the coverage.  mwooldri   Jul-15-09 07:30 PM   #55 
  - Me too, I just want to know who got the bill in those countries?  alice silas   Jul-15-09 06:19 PM   #7 
  - Everyone's taxes pay for it, along with for schools, fire departments, road maintanance, etc  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:24 PM   #8 
  - How wonderful. It's free.....  alice silas   Jul-15-09 06:34 PM   #14 
     - We are?  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 06:35 PM   #17 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-15-09 06:40 PM   #23 
     - So, are you working for the health insurers...  MrScorpio   Jul-15-09 06:36 PM   #18 
     - I suspect this person isn't educated enough to work in the health insurance field. n/t  Gwendolyn   Jul-15-09 06:44 PM   #29 
     - Just like schools are "free". nt  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:37 PM   #19 
     - They are?  Gwendolyn   Jul-15-09 06:40 PM   #24 
     - Gee, that's an outright misrepresentation but I think you know that already...  Spazito   Jul-15-09 06:41 PM   # 
     - Try peddling those right-wing falsehoods elsewhere, huh?  TahitiNut   Jul-15-09 06:53 PM   #39 
     - Surprise!.. Canada has conservative, greedy people too  SoCalDem   Jul-15-09 07:27 PM   #52 
     - It seems improbable that that person is Canadian.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-15-09 07:29 PM   #54 
     - Absurd nonsense  SOS   Jul-15-09 07:34 PM   #56 
     - Thought I'd note that alice doesn't live here anymore.  pinto   Jul-15-09 07:57 PM   #64 
     - Thanks! much appreciated!  Spazito   Jul-15-09 08:04 PM   #66 
     - Thanks for letting us play with it a little. It was... exhilarating.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-15-09 08:22 PM   #68 
     - BWAHAHAHAHAAHA! You'll have to do much better than that here....  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 09:13 PM   #78 
     - We are?  LeftistGorilla   Jul-16-09 04:42 PM   #96 
  - Everyone who works basically pays for their own healthcare.  Gwendolyn   Jul-15-09 06:34 PM   #11 
  - EXACTLY!!!  ibegurpard   Jul-15-09 09:05 PM   #75 
  - Gosh, let me, one of those 'poor son of a bitch' people who are...  Spazito   Jul-15-09 06:38 PM   #20 
  - Not as many tax loopholes for the rich in those countries.  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-15-09 06:51 PM   #36 
  - Welcome to DU.  Laelth   Jul-15-09 07:08 PM   #47 
  - National Insurance deductions in the UK.  mwooldri   Jul-15-09 07:42 PM   #60 
  - Couldn't you just go through the tunnel and throw yourself on their mercy?  KamaAina   Jul-15-09 06:28 PM   #9 
  - I suggest you move then. It's not going to happen here any time soon. n/t  lindisfarne   Jul-15-09 06:30 PM   #10 
  - It will happen when we elect a president who supports it  jgraz   Jul-15-09 06:35 PM   #16 
  - Start working on that! I doubt you'll find someone in your lifetime that will make you happy. n/t  lindisfarne   Jul-15-09 06:41 PM   #26 
  - I may have to. That makes me very sad. n/t  Laelth   Jul-15-09 07:10 PM   #48 
  - About 15 years ago,  PassingTimeHere   Jul-15-09 06:34 PM   #12 
  - Yep  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 07:01 PM   #44 
  - Welcome to DU.  Laelth   Jul-15-09 07:11 PM   #49 
  - To be honest...  Lagomorph   Jul-15-09 06:34 PM   #13 
  - "I'd rather you die than me pay higher taxes." (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 06:35 PM   #15 
  - That pretty much sums up the post you're responding to  jgraz   Jul-15-09 06:39 PM   #21 
  - Yep. Randroids everywhere. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 06:44 PM   #31 
     - you can almost smell the trust fund.  jgraz   Jul-15-09 06:51 PM   #37 
        - Hardly...  Lagomorph   Jul-15-09 07:19 PM   #51 
           - Then I don't understand your reaction  jgraz   Jul-15-09 07:27 PM   #53 
           - I'm not against national health care.  Lagomorph   Jul-15-09 07:41 PM   #59 
              - So how much experience have you had with private healthcare?  jgraz   Jul-15-09 09:47 PM   #80 
           - A disabled vet with full benefits.  Jazzgirl   Jul-15-09 07:35 PM   #57 
              - Yup.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 07:48 PM   #62 
              - Well, same to you!  Lagomorph   Jul-15-09 08:04 PM   #67 
              - If you didn't figure it out from that experience, nothing we can say will help you.  jgraz   Jul-15-09 09:51 PM   #81 
              - My dad is a 100% disabled Vet.  proteus_lives   Jul-16-09 04:41 PM   #95 
  - You hit that nail on the head, I am sorry to say. n/t  Laelth   Jul-15-09 07:12 PM   #50 
  - LOL  Skittles   Jul-15-09 06:41 PM   #27 
  - Huggage time  MrScorpio   Jul-15-09 06:45 PM   #32 
  - I've been waiting seven years for a hip replacement...  Lagomorph   Jul-15-09 06:52 PM   #38 
     - I'm a retired vet too you know  MrScorpio   Jul-15-09 06:59 PM   #42 
     - I'd say it *requires* the VA to be underfunded  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 07:02 PM   #45 
     - Have you tried Tri-Care? A friend waited for three years for a knee operation  csziggy   Jul-15-09 07:41 PM   #58 
     - Some people learn through observation  Katya Mullethov   Jul-15-09 08:46 PM   #70 
     - Ahhh, the sweet chimes of the painfully ignorant  Posteritatis   Jul-15-09 08:56 PM   #71 
     - Just so I am clear, you are posting that as a lesson on what NOT to believe, right?  Spazito   Jul-15-09 09:05 PM   #74 
        - clearly a fabrication  Katya Mullethov   Jul-16-09 07:09 AM   #87 
     - Retired vet, and daughter of a retired vet, and member of the NRO -  haele   Jul-16-09 04:40 PM   #94 
  - They already are. At a higher cost than it would be if all had insurance. Welcome. n/t  lindisfarne   Jul-15-09 06:42 PM   #28 
  - Guess you better change your signature then  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-15-09 06:55 PM   #40 
  - edit. Wrong spot.  Robeson   Jul-15-09 09:51 PM   #82 
  - LOL.....sans glasses I read "I WENT to a hospital"  Skittles   Jul-15-09 06:41 PM   #25 
  - Did a wishing star just appear on the horizon?  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-15-09 06:44 PM   #30 
  - really?  ibegurpard   Jul-15-09 09:03 PM   #73 
  - What? You don't want to pony up $18,000 for 44 hours in the hospital?  TahitiNut   Jul-15-09 06:48 PM   #33 
  - When it comes to healthcare  ibegurpard   Jul-15-09 09:00 PM   #72 
  - I want a new car I won't get a bill for  stray cat   Jul-15-09 06:59 PM   #41 
  - An uninsured friend  SOS   Jul-15-09 07:48 PM   #63 
     - Who cares about you? Stray Cat is happy with his insurance  XOKCowboy   Jul-15-09 08:00 PM   #65 
     - My insured husband was transported via ambulance from Urgent Care  haele   Jul-16-09 05:09 PM   #100 
  - I've never been handed a bill. They always mail them a month or so later.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-15-09 07:01 PM   #43 
  - Yup. I don't need insurance. I need health care. n/t  Laelth   Jul-15-09 07:06 PM   #46 
  - Or the US, if you have medicare & tricare for life. We do have  tsuki   Jul-15-09 09:06 PM   #76 
  - Then you'll probably have to go to those countries, It won't happen here in our lifetimes.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 09:11 PM   #77 
  - Love your post. This and posts on Sacred Sarah...  Robeson   Jul-15-09 09:53 PM   #83 
  - Then I need to do some posts on Caribou Barbie  MrScorpio   Jul-15-09 09:57 PM   #84 
  - Inequality is promoted in American society, and as you have  harun   Jul-15-09 09:58 PM   #85 
  - You get to pay afterward? They often fucking make me pay BEFORE!!  HughMoran   Jul-15-09 09:59 PM   #86 
  - In Mexico it's even worse. You have to pay up front before they admit you.  mucifer   Jul-16-09 07:20 AM   #88 
  - I had to go to the (UK) ER with my girlfriend a few weeks ago  harmonicon   Jul-16-09 03:28 PM   #89 
  - It's infuriating. I have "health insurance" with a $4000 deductible for hospitalization.  Thegonagle   Jul-16-09 03:59 PM   #91 
 

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