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Wed Jul-15-09 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 22. yes, like HOBO in Austin |
| -What obligations do cities have for homeless people? |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 02:10 PM |
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Write more citations for loitering and vagrancy? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jul-15-09 02:15 PM |
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Heh, heh, from what I've seen in other threads, it seems that's ALL cities are doing. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 02:38 PM |
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A great way to provide free toliet paper. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Jul-15-09 03:23 PM |
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Cities? |
Hepburn |
Jul-15-09 02:15 PM |
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Yes, cities. |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 02:41 PM |
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The "liberal" bastion of Santa Monica, California doesn't think it has any |
slackmaster |
Jul-15-09 02:17 PM |
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That's too bad. Twenty five years ago when I lived in Santa Monica, |
Cleita |
Jul-15-09 02:25 PM |
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Santa Monica has changed so much and all to the ugly. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 03:09 PM |
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That's not the Santa Monica I remember. |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 02:43 PM |
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They were making it illegal to feed people about the time I left there. |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 03:07 PM |
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You are so charming |
CBGLuthier |
Jul-15-09 02:18 PM |
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Shelter and feed them..put them to work... |
cdsilv |
Jul-15-09 02:33 PM |
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Can't do that |
michreject |
Jul-16-09 09:53 AM |
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Why thank you. |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 02:36 PM |
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My city has a homeless shelter |
City of Mills |
Jul-15-09 02:32 PM |
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Yes, there are many more homeless living in camp grounds, rest stops and |
Cleita |
Jul-15-09 02:43 PM |
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The faces of the homeless |
City of Mills |
Jul-15-09 02:50 PM |
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Thank you for posting these links. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 03:05 PM |
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You consider that "housing"? Would you want your mother living the rest of her life, bouncing from |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:16 PM |
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Yes it's housing, and yes we can do better |
City of Mills |
Jul-15-09 03:59 PM |
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Housing is NOT where you're kicked out during the day. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:03 PM |
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Your attempts to make people feel guilty aren't helping |
City of Mills |
Jul-15-09 04:17 PM |
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I don't respond to accusations. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:26 PM |
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Thank you for your efforts and your report! |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-16-09 07:58 AM |
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Food and Shelter |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 02:53 PM |
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Good point. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 03:01 PM |
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yes, like HOBO in Austin |
Skittles |
Jul-15-09 03:14 PM |
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Oh, yes, some deodorant and used clothes will solve the problem. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:17 PM |
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Not the entire problem. |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 03:21 PM |
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Why are you "progressives" so unwilling to work for low-income housing? |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:28 PM |
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I'm a proponent of low-income housing. |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 03:34 PM |
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Thank you. NOW, work to get something done about it. This focusing on SHeLTERs |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:38 PM |
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I do see where you're getting at. |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 03:41 PM |
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So, what are we going to do about it? |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:49 PM |
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I don't call into shows. |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 03:52 PM |
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Thanks for the two things you have done. Maybe you can think of others. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 03:53 PM |
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It's certainly an issue |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 04:01 PM |
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I know that these discussions always come back to charity, and that makes it very difficult to deal |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:05 PM |
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No it won't solve every problem |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 04:13 PM |
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Actually, it's not better than nothing. When people are demeaned and made helpless |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:17 PM |
#51 |
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As I said |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 04:20 PM |
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You may think that now. I guarantee you, when you find yourself losing your very being, |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:23 PM |
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Hmmm...Charity bad, ok, gotcha. |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-16-09 08:10 AM |
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You are absolutely right |
ipaint |
Jul-16-09 08:44 AM |
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he likes misconstruing things. very deliberately too. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-16-09 09:07 AM |
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Well it helped me at one time. |
JNelson6563 |
Jul-16-09 08:02 AM |
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Do not undervalue or belittle the efforts of others Bobbie. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-16-09 09:18 AM |
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what about people who aren't homeless but need/want jobs? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-15-09 03:43 PM |
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We should help them as well (nt) |
bigwillq |
Jul-15-09 03:52 PM |
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I guess the same as you do for homeless people in your community |
stray cat |
Jul-15-09 03:01 PM |
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A stake, EQUITY in the society in which they live. |
Karenina |
Jul-15-09 03:10 PM |
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Legally? None. |
timtom |
Jul-15-09 03:11 PM |
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Human beings eating and having a roof should not depend on "largesse" |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 03:22 PM |
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You have excoriated me for a poor choice of words. |
timtom |
Jul-15-09 04:39 PM |
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I didn't mean to excoriate you. But providing the very basic things |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 04:47 PM |
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But, why don't cities have any LEGAL obligations for the homeless? n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 03:28 PM |
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why should they? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-15-09 03:41 PM |
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Apart from the human rights aspect, it's a public health issue. |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 03:54 PM |
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Yes, that is an aspect that people forget about --- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-15-09 04:04 PM |
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and who picks up the tab? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-15-09 04:22 PM |
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Tax payers pick up the tab just as they're doing now |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 04:25 PM |
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well if they're already doing it,- what's the problem? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-15-09 04:28 PM |
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Let me put that another way: it costs tax payers a lot to allow homelessness |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 04:31 PM |
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HEY! That was MY question in the OP! n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 04:12 PM |
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no it wasn't. |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-15-09 04:25 PM |
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Because they've historically lacked the |
timtom |
Jul-15-09 05:04 PM |
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mental health institutions, food, shelter & training for work |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 03:24 PM |
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Health care. A major reason why families go under in the first place. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 04:10 PM |
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yes, but thats a-priori to homelessness, i was talkign about the question |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 05:21 PM |
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I wonder if it really is, though. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-15-09 05:39 PM |
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ah, yes... if you're homeless, you obviously are "mentally ill" I'm glad you didn't |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:28 PM |
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deliberately misconstruing what i said doesnt make you a better human being |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 04:33 PM |
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That was first on your list, so clearly it is your main thought. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:34 PM |
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you mean, besides the fact that i also clearly typed food and shelter? |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 04:37 PM |
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I'm sick to death of the stereotypes, It causes much misery. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:44 PM |
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did i say i organized it in the order of importance? no one mentioned |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 04:51 PM |
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It's inconsequential to you because you haven't had to deal with being on the receiving end. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:56 PM |
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if it dismantling stereotypes you mean not addressing problems thats exist |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 05:05 PM |
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You've gone so far off the rails you don't even make any sense. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 10:45 PM |
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grow a brain. nt |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-16-09 07:06 AM |
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The Churches have it all covered. Haven't you heard? |
elehhhhna |
Jul-15-09 03:36 PM |
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I pray everyday that my Faith-Based stock doesn't tank. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 04:13 PM |
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it's kind of tough to look at the issue in a vacuum like that |
hiphopnation |
Jul-15-09 04:26 PM |
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Would you like to guess how much it costs to have people who are homeless? |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 04:59 PM |
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I think cities would actually frame the homeless issue in "budget" terms. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 05:22 PM |
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Only if there is still a modicum of logic involved. Empathy is a dirtyy word, donchaknow. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 08:48 PM |
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I heard the other day on NPR that it costs 25K/yr to house 1 homeless person so .... |
cdsilv |
Jul-15-09 06:45 PM |
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That's only the very beginning. Consider the cost of police harrassment, incarceration, etc. |
bobbolink |
Jul-15-09 08:46 PM |
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So, helping the homeless is within the obligation of a city, but ... |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 05:19 PM |
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i missed a word in my post |
hiphopnation |
Jul-16-09 11:08 AM |
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Huh |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jul-15-09 04:30 PM |
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But how does a city translate "compassion"? |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 04:58 PM |
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That's A Good Question |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jul-16-09 08:14 AM |
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What obligations do liberals think cities have for homeless people? |
readmoreoften |
Jul-15-09 05:28 PM |
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Ouch. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-15-09 05:38 PM |
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well stated. nt |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jul-15-09 05:46 PM |
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Obligations - nearly none |
quaker bill |
Jul-15-09 07:05 PM |
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Oligations? The same they have to any other resident. Very, very few. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jul-15-09 08:13 PM |
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People need to get over their fear that someone somewhere will get something for free. |
hedgehog |
Jul-15-09 10:59 PM |
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What's this, a thread started by a sane person? Which is not about Obama's progress so far, unrec, |
BlueIris |
Jul-16-09 07:33 AM |
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Fix wealthy neighboorhood's streets and sewers....and provide more police protection.... |
LeftHander |
Jul-16-09 08:38 AM |
#96 |
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