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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:01 PM
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16. Good point. n/t
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  -What obligations do cities have for homeless people? ColbertWatcher  Jul-15-09 02:10 PM   #0 
  - Write more citations for loitering and vagrancy?  OneTenthofOnePercent   Jul-15-09 02:15 PM   #1 
  - Heh, heh, from what I've seen in other threads, it seems that's ALL cities are doing. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 02:38 PM   #9 
  - A great way to provide free toliet paper. n/t  Dr Fate   Jul-15-09 03:23 PM   #27 
  - Cities?  Hepburn   Jul-15-09 02:15 PM   #2 
  - Yes, cities.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 02:41 PM   #10 
  - The "liberal" bastion of Santa Monica, California doesn't think it has any  slackmaster   Jul-15-09 02:17 PM   #3 
  - That's too bad. Twenty five years ago when I lived in Santa Monica,  Cleita   Jul-15-09 02:25 PM   #5 
  - Santa Monica has changed so much and all to the ugly. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 03:09 PM   #19 
  - That's not the Santa Monica I remember.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 02:43 PM   #12 
  - They were making it illegal to feed people about the time I left there.  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 03:07 PM   #18 
  - You are so charming  CBGLuthier   Jul-15-09 02:18 PM   #4 
  - Shelter and feed them..put them to work...  cdsilv   Jul-15-09 02:33 PM   #7 
  - Can't do that  michreject   Jul-16-09 09:53 AM   #100 
  - Why thank you.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 02:36 PM   #8 
  - My city has a homeless shelter  City of Mills   Jul-15-09 02:32 PM   #6 
  - Yes, there are many more homeless living in camp grounds, rest stops and  Cleita   Jul-15-09 02:43 PM   #11 
  - The faces of the homeless  City of Mills   Jul-15-09 02:50 PM   #13 
     - Thank you for posting these links. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 03:05 PM   #17 
  - You consider that "housing"? Would you want your mother living the rest of her life, bouncing from  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:16 PM   #23 
     - Yes it's housing, and yes we can do better  City of Mills   Jul-15-09 03:59 PM   #42 
        - Housing is NOT where you're kicked out during the day.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:03 PM   #44 
           - Your attempts to make people feel guilty aren't helping  City of Mills   Jul-15-09 04:17 PM   #52 
              - I don't respond to accusations.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:26 PM   #59 
              - Thank you for your efforts and your report!  JNelson6563   Jul-16-09 07:58 AM   #92 
  - Food and Shelter  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 02:53 PM   #14 
  - Good point. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 03:01 PM   #16 
  - yes, like HOBO in Austin  Skittles   Jul-15-09 03:14 PM   #22 
  - Oh, yes, some deodorant and used clothes will solve the problem.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:17 PM   #24 
  - Not the entire problem.  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 03:21 PM   #25 
  - Why are you "progressives" so unwilling to work for low-income housing?  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:28 PM   #30 
     - I'm a proponent of low-income housing.  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 03:34 PM   #31 
        - Thank you. NOW, work to get something done about it. This focusing on SHeLTERs  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:38 PM   #33 
        - I do see where you're getting at.  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 03:41 PM   #34 
           - So, what are we going to do about it?  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:49 PM   #37 
              - I don't call into shows.  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 03:52 PM   #38 
                 - Thanks for the two things you have done. Maybe you can think of others.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:53 PM   #40 
                    - It's certainly an issue  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 04:01 PM   #43 
                       - I know that these discussions always come back to charity, and that makes it very difficult to deal  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:05 PM   #46 
                          - No it won't solve every problem  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 04:13 PM   #50 
                             - Actually, it's not better than nothing. When people are demeaned and made helpless  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:17 PM   #51 
                                - As I said  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 04:20 PM   #53 
                                - You may think that now. I guarantee you, when you find yourself losing your very being,  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:23 PM   #55 
                                - Hmmm...Charity bad, ok, gotcha.  JNelson6563   Jul-16-09 08:10 AM   #94 
                                - You are absolutely right  ipaint   Jul-16-09 08:44 AM   #97 
        - he likes misconstruing things. very deliberately too.  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-16-09 09:07 AM   #98 
  - Well it helped me at one time.  JNelson6563   Jul-16-09 08:02 AM   #93 
     - Do not undervalue or belittle the efforts of others Bobbie.  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-16-09 09:18 AM   #99 
  - what about people who aren't homeless but need/want jobs?  dysfunctional press   Jul-15-09 03:43 PM   #36 
     - We should help them as well (nt)  bigwillq   Jul-15-09 03:52 PM   #39 
  - I guess the same as you do for homeless people in your community  stray cat   Jul-15-09 03:01 PM   #15 
  - A stake, EQUITY in the society in which they live.  Karenina   Jul-15-09 03:10 PM   #20 
  - Legally? None.  timtom   Jul-15-09 03:11 PM   #21 
  - Human beings eating and having a roof should not depend on "largesse"  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 03:22 PM   #26 
  - You have excoriated me for a poor choice of words.  timtom   Jul-15-09 04:39 PM   #67 
     - I didn't mean to excoriate you. But providing the very basic things  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 04:47 PM   #69 
  - But, why don't cities have any LEGAL obligations for the homeless? n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 03:28 PM   #29 
     - why should they?  dysfunctional press   Jul-15-09 03:41 PM   #35 
     - Apart from the human rights aspect, it's a public health issue.  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 03:54 PM   #41 
     - Yes, that is an aspect that people forget about ---  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-15-09 04:04 PM   #45 
     - and who picks up the tab?  dysfunctional press   Jul-15-09 04:22 PM   #54 
        - Tax payers pick up the tab just as they're doing now  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 04:25 PM   #57 
           - well if they're already doing it,- what's the problem?  dysfunctional press   Jul-15-09 04:28 PM   #61 
              - Let me put that another way: it costs tax payers a lot to allow homelessness  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 04:31 PM   #63 
     - HEY! That was MY question in the OP! n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 04:12 PM   #48 
        - no it wasn't.  dysfunctional press   Jul-15-09 04:25 PM   #56 
     - Because they've historically lacked the  timtom   Jul-15-09 05:04 PM   #74 
  - mental health institutions, food, shelter & training for work  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 03:24 PM   #28 
  - Health care. A major reason why families go under in the first place. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 04:10 PM   #47 
  - yes, but thats a-priori to homelessness, i was talkign about the question  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 05:21 PM   #77 
     - I wonder if it really is, though. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 05:39 PM   #81 
  - ah, yes... if you're homeless, you obviously are "mentally ill" I'm glad you didn't  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:28 PM   #60 
     - deliberately misconstruing what i said doesnt make you a better human being  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 04:33 PM   #64 
        - That was first on your list, so clearly it is your main thought.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:34 PM   #65 
           - you mean, besides the fact that i also clearly typed food and shelter?  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 04:37 PM   #66 
              - I'm sick to death of the stereotypes, It causes much misery.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:44 PM   #68 
                 - did i say i organized it in the order of importance? no one mentioned  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 04:51 PM   #70 
                    - It's inconsequential to you because you haven't had to deal with being on the receiving end.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:56 PM   #71 
                       - if it dismantling stereotypes you mean not addressing problems thats exist  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 05:05 PM   #75 
                          - You've gone so far off the rails you don't even make any sense.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 10:45 PM   #88 
                             - grow a brain. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-16-09 07:06 AM   #90 
  - The Churches have it all covered. Haven't you heard?  elehhhhna   Jul-15-09 03:36 PM   #32 
  - I pray everyday that my Faith-Based stock doesn't tank. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 04:13 PM   #49 
  - it's kind of tough to look at the issue in a vacuum like that  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 04:26 PM   #58 
  - Would you like to guess how much it costs to have people who are homeless?  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 04:59 PM   #73 
  - I think cities would actually frame the homeless issue in "budget" terms. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 05:22 PM   #78 
  - Only if there is still a modicum of logic involved. Empathy is a dirtyy word, donchaknow.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 08:48 PM   #87 
  - I heard the other day on NPR that it costs 25K/yr to house 1 homeless person so ....  cdsilv   Jul-15-09 06:45 PM   #83 
     - That's only the very beginning. Consider the cost of police harrassment, incarceration, etc.  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 08:46 PM   #86 
  - So, helping the homeless is within the obligation of a city, but ...  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 05:19 PM   #76 
     - i missed a word in my post  hiphopnation   Jul-16-09 11:08 AM   #101 
  - Huh  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-15-09 04:30 PM   #62 
  - But how does a city translate "compassion"?  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 04:58 PM   #72 
     - That's A Good Question  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-16-09 08:14 AM   #95 
  - What obligations do liberals think cities have for homeless people?  readmoreoften   Jul-15-09 05:28 PM   #79 
  - Ouch. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 05:38 PM   #80 
  - well stated. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Jul-15-09 05:46 PM   #82 
  - Obligations - nearly none  quaker bill   Jul-15-09 07:05 PM   #84 
  - Oligations? The same they have to any other resident. Very, very few.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-15-09 08:13 PM   #85 
  - People need to get over their fear that someone somewhere will get something for free.  hedgehog   Jul-15-09 10:59 PM   #89 
  - What's this, a thread started by a sane person? Which is not about Obama's progress so far, unrec,  BlueIris   Jul-16-09 07:33 AM   #91 
  - Fix wealthy neighboorhood's streets and sewers....and provide more police protection....  LeftHander   Jul-16-09 08:38 AM   #96 
 

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