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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #160
171. Believe what you want but I do NOT support Ron Paul
I wanted to get the DU perspective.

Google searches are okay but i RESPECT this community and the opinions here.

That is why I asked.

I just wanted some ammo to debate him with. Don't know much about him - hw was NEVER someone I took seriously (but I paid attention to him for a minute when he was a republican against the war - so I NOTICED him.

But then paid him little mind at all.

I was not trying to whip up any frenzy - I was just looking for some good ol' DU perspectives.

EOM
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  -Ron Paul - What is the DU consensus on him? Liberation Angel  Jul-15-09 09:14 AM   #0 
  - He's a racist wacko.  saltpoint   Jul-15-09 09:15 AM   #1 
  - +1 n/t  FSogol   Jul-15-09 09:16 AM   #5 
  - With a heaping side of homophobia  tridim   Jul-15-09 09:19 AM   #12 
  - He's a bleak bloke, that's for sure. Kind of barren of flourish, kind of  saltpoint   Jul-15-09 09:20 AM   #13 
  - details on his homophobia?  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:30 AM   #26 
     - Link  tridim   Jul-15-09 09:32 AM   #32 
        - Thanks - Brilliant link  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:16 AM   #57 
  - My thoughts, exactly. He has even written a few racist op-eds...  kjackson227   Jul-15-09 09:40 AM   #41 
  - Wadda ya mean vote for him for dog catcher??  icnorth   Jul-15-09 04:00 PM   #158 
  - Yup. Exactly! nt  JerseygirlCT   Jul-15-09 10:17 AM   #58 
  - And yet he's more of an honest conservative in some ways...  Orsino   Jul-15-09 11:02 AM   #87 
  - Small government, until it comes to a woman's right to control her own body or marriage equality.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-15-09 11:14 AM   #93 
  - He has his moments, or at least he seems to, but even in the televised  saltpoint   Jul-15-09 08:41 PM   #165 
  - I liked his cameo in BRUNO  musiclawyer   Jul-15-09 11:24 AM   #99 
     - No, he got trolled. Big time.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jul-15-09 10:31 PM   #175 
  - ...  MNDemNY   Jul-15-09 09:15 AM   #2 
  - A fair number of DUers like the bigot.  BlooInBloo   Jul-15-09 09:15 AM   #3 
  - To be fair, a lot of DUers appreciated his stance on the war  el_bryanto   Jul-15-09 09:20 AM   #15 
  - LOL! The same number were also crazy about lou dobbs...  Kahuna   Jul-15-09 10:22 AM   #63 
  - Ron Paul.  gorfle   Jul-15-09 09:16 AM   #4 
  - And then they should all march over a cliff  ProudDad   Jul-15-09 03:51 PM   #155 
  - fucktard  Oregone   Jul-15-09 09:16 AM   #6 
  - He's fine if you like crazy people  Warpy   Jul-15-09 09:17 AM   #7 
  - Racist crackpot.  Odin2005   Jul-15-09 09:17 AM   #8 
  - To get a feel for how DU feels use the Google function at the top right  maddezmom   Jul-15-09 09:18 AM   # 
  - Thanks Maddezmom  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:26 AM   #19 
  - I've never used that..thanks.  Cha   Jul-15-09 11:22 AM   #98 
  - Hmm  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 09:18 AM   #9 
  - And...  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 09:19 AM   #10 
  - GOP version of Kucinich..both too crazy (and truthful) to ever win a statewide or national office  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 09:19 AM   #11 
  - Uhm ... NO.  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 09:25 AM   #17 
  - didn't say their views were same... they are similar in that they're the "crazy uncle in the attic"  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 09:32 AM   #31 
  - Yeah...  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 09:46 AM   #43 
  - Ok... some clarification  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 10:30 AM   #73 
  - To simplify  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 12:19 PM   #121 
  - See post #78..... and then I expect an apology  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 11:29 AM   #105 
     - So do I.  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 12:27 PM   #122 
        - Kucinich wanted to have Paul as his running mate... case closed  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 12:37 PM   #128 
           - Yeah...screw the issues.  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 12:56 PM   #131 
  - No, you said Ron Paul was "too truthful" to win a national election.  Maru Kitteh   Jul-16-09 12:03 AM   #183 
  - Um, Moonbeam McCrazypants wanted Ron Paul as his running mate.  BlooInBloo   Jul-15-09 11:29 AM   #106 
  - Who do people insist that r0N pAuL is anything like Kucinich?  ColbertWatcher   Jul-15-09 02:05 PM   #137 
     - No he isn't.  TheWatcher   Jul-16-09 02:02 AM   #186 
  - He is a libertarian-Randian nutjob.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jul-15-09 09:20 AM   #14 
  - Randian?  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:32 AM   #30 
     - Ayn Rand. Author of such tendentious, tiresome tomes as  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jul-15-09 09:40 AM   #40 
        - Horribly shitty writer.  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 10:14 AM   #54 
        - Almost unreadable, Rand is. I waded through her crap  MineralMan   Jul-15-09 10:28 AM   #71 
        - Oy thanks  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:14 AM   #55 
  - Strong against reproductive choice  get the red out   Jul-15-09 09:24 AM   #16 
  - Wack job! N/T  obliviously   Jul-15-09 09:25 AM   #18 
  - Well, I don't think he's a Sacha Baron Cohen fan...nt  SidDithers   Jul-15-09 09:27 AM   #20 
  - We're against him.  Starry Messenger   Jul-15-09 09:27 AM   #21 
  - Anybody got good links handy?  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:27 AM   #22 
  - Google is your friend.  MineralMan   Jul-15-09 09:30 AM   #25 
     - yeah but a DU snapshot is what i was hoping for plus I can ask questions  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:31 AM   #28 
        - And you see the results.  MineralMan   Jul-15-09 09:36 AM   #36 
        - +1  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 10:04 AM   #51 
        - I am contemplating working with someone who is a ron paul fan  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:12 AM   #53 
        - DU is much, much gnarlier than Google. Just wait.  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 10:20 AM   #60 
        - this is classic  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 02:47 PM   #145 
        - Yep. It seems clear now.  BlooInBloo   Jul-15-09 10:22 AM   #61 
        - Yeah, I think you are after a few DU snapshots.  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 10:03 AM   #49 
           - +1...nt  SidDithers   Jul-15-09 10:04 AM   #50 
           - whose a ron paul supporter and whose not?  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:25 AM   #67 
              - Really? You are liberating people from fascists and fascism??  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 10:31 AM   #74 
                 - Yeah, I'm an antifascist activist and People who "follow" me on threads  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:51 AM   #79 
                    - Yep, you got your Clinton dig in on another thread and now you say "Barack Blessed"--  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 10:59 AM   #83 
                       - Barak literally means "blessed" in arabic. In Hebrew it is "Baruch"  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 11:18 AM   #96 
  - Is there a "DU consensus" on anything? nt  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-15-09 09:28 AM   #23 
  - Ask the unwreckers. ; )  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 09:29 AM   #24 
  - Hmm...  MineralMan   Jul-15-09 09:31 AM   #27 
  - kittens  Blue_Tires   Jul-15-09 09:36 AM   #35 
     - OK.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-15-09 10:24 AM   #66 
  - I would encourage you to go to...  TCJ70   Jul-15-09 09:32 AM   #29 
  - Thanks I will  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:27 AM   #68 
     - He's in the video...  TCJ70   Jul-15-09 02:22 PM   #139 
  - He's an excellent way of splitting of even more voters from the Republican Party  Phoonzang   Jul-15-09 09:35 AM   #33 
  - good point  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:28 AM   #70 
  - nutbar whose politics are absurd more than left or right  Blue_Tires   Jul-15-09 09:35 AM   #34 
  - Wack job....  Hepburn   Jul-15-09 09:37 AM   # 
  - Links:  superduperfarleft   Jul-15-09 09:37 AM   #37 
  - Perfect summation with great links thrown in.  blondeatlast   Jul-15-09 03:19 PM   #147 
  - Right Wing whackjob.  Iggo   Jul-15-09 09:37 AM   #38 
  - He's a mixed bag. Sometimes he's lucid, sometimes he's quite nuts.  alfredo   Jul-15-09 09:38 AM   #39 
  - Racist , Homophobic SCUMBAG...  Earth Bound Misfit   Jul-15-09 09:45 AM   #42 
  - He horrifies me. Here's a mini-essay that I wrote about him about a year ago  LeftishBrit   Jul-15-09 09:50 AM   #44 
  - Great essay - thanks  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:55 AM   #82 
  - Probably no consensus  zipplewrath   Jul-15-09 09:54 AM   #45 
  - The only thing that Paul has in common with Jefferson...  LeftishBrit   Jul-15-09 10:00 AM   #48 
     - Ha!  zipplewrath   Jul-15-09 10:48 AM   #77 
  - Bat shit insane.  Deep13   Jul-15-09 09:56 AM   #46 
  - Anti-Federal Reserve, pro-Gold standard, anti-government, anti-corporate, anti-war  Recursion   Jul-15-09 09:58 AM   #47 
  - You left out anti-women, anti-gay, and anti-minority.  laconicsax   Jul-15-09 11:10 AM   #91 
  - How is trashing OSHA and environmental protections anti-corporate?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-15-09 11:26 AM   #100 
     - That's not what's anti-corporate about him  Recursion   Jul-15-09 12:58 PM   #132 
        - Well you should add "anti-worker" to his list of accomplishments then.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-15-09 03:35 PM   #150 
           - Yeah, he's anti-labor  Recursion   Jul-15-09 03:40 PM   #151 
  - He's no Arlen Specter (D!) or Evan Bayh (D?), that's for sure!  Romulox   Jul-15-09 10:07 AM   #52 
  - He's against the war  Mz Pip   Jul-15-09 10:14 AM   #56 
  - Correct on legalizing drugs. Correct about being against the Iraq War and correct about the Federal  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jul-15-09 10:18 AM   #59 
  - stopped clock pretty much covers it. That and batshit crazy  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:52 AM   #80 
  - Here's a good link.  immoderate   Jul-15-09 10:22 AM   #62 
  - THX  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:27 AM   #69 
     - Y' welcome.  immoderate   Jul-15-09 11:02 AM   #86 
  - Nut job  Stop Cornyn   Jul-15-09 10:23 AM   #64 
  - Batshit crazy  dropkickpa   Jul-15-09 10:23 AM   #65 
  - ...and that's dissing the bats!  Terry in Austin   Jul-15-09 11:08 AM   #90 
  - Batshit crazy with a few good ideas  slackmaster   Jul-15-09 10:29 AM   #72 
  - Nuttier than a fruitcake.  graywarrior   Jul-15-09 10:32 AM   #75 
  - He's the only Repuke I like. Is against Imperialism and the War.  harun   Jul-15-09 10:37 AM   #76 
  - Kucinich wanted him to be his running mate...  ecstatic   Jul-15-09 10:49 AM   #78 
  - yikes really?  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 11:00 AM   #84 
  - They've been personal friends for a while  Recursion   Jul-15-09 01:00 PM   #133 
  - Wow, I didn't know this!  kjackson227   Jul-15-09 11:00 AM   #85 
  - Oh my god. I couldn't believe it until I found him actually saying this himself.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-15-09 11:11 AM   #92 
  - Wonderful. Says a lot about DK's supporters  BlooInBloo   Jul-15-09 11:16 AM   #95 
  - I WAS a DK supporter but this makes me kind of regret it  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 11:27 AM   #102 
  - See post #11 and followups.... and the dude said *I* was slamming Kucinich  scheming daemons   Jul-15-09 11:27 AM   #101 
  - :)  BlooInBloo   Jul-15-09 11:30 AM   #107 
  - Really?  kenfrequed   Jul-15-09 12:50 PM   #130 
  - One of Ayn Rand's dingleberries  Stevenmarc   Jul-15-09 10:54 AM   #81 
  - Nuttier than a squirrel turd  Botany   Jul-15-09 11:02 AM   #88 
  - I don't know about DU but I think he's a bag of hot gas.  devilgrrl   Jul-15-09 11:04 AM   #89 
  - Here's a snapshot for you: a snapshot of ME  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 11:14 AM   #94 
  - hmmm. so you say you're "pro-choice".  musette_sf   Jul-15-09 11:53 AM   #116 
     - Please see post #96 above.  Mrs. Overall   Jul-15-09 12:01 PM   #119 
     - I believe it is a constitutional right (federal)  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 12:29 PM   #123 
        - i just wanted to make sure you weren't a Paulbot  musette_sf   Jul-15-09 12:39 PM   #129 
           - cool -- not at all  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 01:50 PM   #135 
  - Ron Paul is a nut and a hypocrite.  Lasher   Jul-15-09 11:21 AM   #97 
  - LOL @ your picture there.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-15-09 11:27 AM   #103 
  - Paulards didn't like it when I used it during 2008 primaries.  Lasher   Jul-15-09 11:34 AM   #110 
  - "credible libertarians"  musette_sf   Jul-15-09 11:28 AM   #104 
     - OK, got me there.  Lasher   Jul-15-09 11:32 AM   #109 
        - they have no solutions  musette_sf   Jul-15-09 11:41 AM   #112 
           - Ha ha! OK I just changed it to 'other libertarians'.  Lasher   Jul-15-09 11:51 AM   #115 
  - He doesn't believe in evolution  taught_me_patience   Jul-15-09 11:31 AM   #108 
  - Pros and Cons  noamnety   Jul-15-09 11:39 AM   #111 
  - A boil on the ass of politics  Stinky The Clown   Jul-15-09 11:43 AM   #113 
  - Well idiot comes to mind...  Fearless   Jul-15-09 11:46 AM   #114 
  - He made such absolute perfect sense regarding the Iraq war.  OnionPatch   Jul-15-09 11:54 AM   #117 
  - You expect to find consensus at DU?  LWolf   Jul-15-09 11:59 AM   #118 
  - So, reading the OP, I did a Google News search on Ron Paul...  Junkdrawer   Jul-15-09 12:10 PM   #120 
  - Good catch. nt  LWolf   Jul-15-09 12:29 PM   #124 
  - I wanted pros and cons, not just trashing Ron Paul  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 12:32 PM   #125 
  - He's being trashed because there ARE NO PROs...  ProudDad   Jul-15-09 03:56 PM   #157 
  - good catch, indeed  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 02:26 PM   #141 
  - karl rove and barney frank agree! LOL  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 02:39 PM   #144 
  - Kinda like they did here with Sarah Palin. Very good catch, thanks. nt  blondeatlast   Jul-15-09 03:24 PM   #148 
  - Sort of - a well reasoned response like yours helps  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 12:33 PM   #126 
     - Any time. nt  LWolf   Jul-15-09 04:12 PM   #159 
  - PRON HAUL is the political equivalent of a stopped clock.  Arkana   Jul-15-09 12:34 PM   #127 
  - adorable loonytunes?  librechik   Jul-15-09 01:00 PM   #134 
  - tool. n/t  Iris   Jul-15-09 01:53 PM   #136 
  - He Claims to be a Libertarian  LAGC   Jul-15-09 02:19 PM   #138 
  - Way anti-choice. Not quite Stormfront but pretty damn racist nonetheless.  KamaAina   Jul-15-09 02:24 PM   #140 
  - An absolute bald-faced liar.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jul-15-09 02:28 PM   #142 
  - would you be so kind as to share some of YOUR research  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 02:32 PM   #143 
  - +1. nt  blondeatlast   Jul-15-09 03:26 PM   #149 
  - okay hip hop nation  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 03:41 PM   #152 
     - you crack me up  hiphopnation   Jul-15-09 04:16 PM   #160 
        - Well put!  blondeatlast   Jul-15-09 07:48 PM   #162 
        - Believe what you want but I do NOT support Ron Paul  Liberation Angel   Jul-15-09 10:05 PM   #171 
  - Racist, nationalistic, sexist, homophobic, scary asshole. nt  blondeatlast   Jul-15-09 03:12 PM   #146 
  - Ron Paul is GREAT... for those who hate us poor people  bobbolink   Jul-15-09 03:43 PM   #153 
  - The ONLY thing he's been "right" about...  ProudDad   Jul-15-09 03:50 PM   #154 
  - I think  SleeplessInAlabama   Jul-15-09 03:54 PM   #156 
  - He's right on Foreign Policy and the Federal Reserve  Sebastian Doyle   Jul-15-09 04:22 PM   #161 
  - "Pretend other countries don't exist" is not a reasonable foreign policy.  Occam Bandage   Jul-15-09 09:16 PM   #169 
  - Fucking looney  NoPasaran   Jul-15-09 07:56 PM   #163 
  - Nutter nt  realisticphish   Jul-15-09 08:21 PM   #164 
  - He was unintentionally funny in Brno  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-09 09:08 PM   #166 
  - 18th-century throwback turd. nt  Occam Bandage   Jul-15-09 09:10 PM   #167 
  - Belfry Loads  ThoughtCriminal   Jul-15-09 09:14 PM   #168 
  - What If Ron Paul Is Correct?  Boddingham   Jul-15-09 09:58 PM   #170 
  - Very good points! And welcome to DU!  CRF450   Jul-15-09 10:16 PM   #172 
  - Generally speaking, the State Governments are more corrupt (cheaper to buy).  Laelth   Jul-15-09 10:28 PM   #174 
     - Isn't that the fault of the people?  Boddingham   Jul-15-09 10:38 PM   #176 
        - It is the people's fault.  Laelth   Jul-15-09 10:56 PM   #177 
           - Yes.  Boddingham   Jul-15-09 11:04 PM   #179 
              - At least we can vote the party in power out from time to time.  Laelth   Jul-15-09 11:18 PM   #181 
              - That's not an inheirent problem with the federal government, though  krispos42   Jul-16-09 01:40 AM   #185 
  - and UPI402 shrugged  upi402   Jul-15-09 10:22 PM   #173 
  - A very ignoble person, but an ignorer of History and Reality.  johnaries   Jul-15-09 11:01 PM   #178 
  - I don't know where you got this.  Boddingham   Jul-15-09 11:13 PM   #180 
  - Racist homophobic bigot.  Clintonista2   Jul-15-09 11:18 PM   #182 
  - Ron Paul = KKK  Kievan Rus   Jul-16-09 12:08 AM   #184 
  - One of the better right-wingers  mp9200   Jul-16-09 04:55 AM   #187 
 

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