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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:50 PM
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3. Just so you know, if you don't already -- Federal employee health plan does NOT cover abortion
It has not since July 20, 2001. Bill Clinton restored it after the Reagan/Bush I years. Bush II unrestored it and as far as I know, Obama has yet to restore it again.

So I would not be one bit surprised if any public option does not cover abortion. It certainly does not for federally employed women.
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  -Possible problems with private insurance if abortion is forbidden in health care reform. madfloridian  Jul-13-09 08:29 PM   #0 
  - K&R  musette_sf   Jul-13-09 08:30 PM   #1 
  - Heh heh  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 08:33 PM   #2 
  - Just so you know, if you don't already -- Federal employee health plan does NOT cover abortion  katandmoon   Jul-13-09 08:50 PM   #3 
  - Well, I am too old to have an abortion, so it doesn't affect me.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:10 PM   #4 
  - I am too old now -- but I'm a retired Fed, and I *wasn't* too old once.  katandmoon   Jul-13-09 11:02 PM   #26 
     - I don't think he will either.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 11:05 PM   #27 
  - Dupe deleted  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:10 PM   #5 
  - I support the right, but see no need to fund it with public money  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:14 PM   #6 
  - What if it isn't voluntary?  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:21 PM   #7 
  - Covered.  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:23 PM   #9 
     - No. They demand that it "explicitly exclude abortion"  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:28 PM   #10 
        - Elective abortion or all abortion? All is not ethical  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:32 PM   #11 
           - Your view shows me the religious right has won.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:33 PM   #12 
              - I am basically agnostic..  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:38 PM   #13 
                 - Not really.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:41 PM   #14 
                 - Maybe you misunderstand..  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:47 PM   #16 
                    - I did not misunderstand.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:50 PM   #17 
                    - Yeah, personal responsibility, choice comes with responsibility...  Pavulon   Jul-13-09 09:55 PM   #18 
                       - So you think women who have abortions are not responsible.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 10:01 PM   #19 
                       - Not responsible would be a state making a choice for them  Pavulon   Jul-14-09 05:14 PM   #35 
                       - You are acting like you are superior to me.  madfloridian   Jul-14-09 05:16 PM   #36 
                          - Again, "right wing"  Pavulon   Jul-14-09 05:22 PM   #38 
                       - except that is not what he said  hfojvt   Jul-14-09 11:44 PM   #49 
                       - You would LOVE the new AZ governor....taking anti-abortion to new levels  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 10:37 PM   #25 
                       - I find equating abortions with cosmetic surgery more than a little disturbing.  LooseWilly   Jul-13-09 11:36 PM   #28 
                       - Yep, I an agnostic. Not a religious thing  Pavulon   Jul-14-09 05:20 PM   #37 
                          - Most private insurance covers any abortion  REP   Jul-14-09 11:19 PM   #47 
                             - States regulate this, not feds..  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:25 PM   #55 
                       - "Abortion is not birth control (which is covered)"? Um, yes, it is.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:31 PM   #57 
                    - Would proving contraceptive failure fit in your view?  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:30 PM   #56 
                       - Yep, If i back my car into a post  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:38 PM   #58 
                          - Contraceptive failure = backing your car into a post.  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:49 PM   #59 
                             - Killing A bill for this issue, wilder  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:56 PM   #61 
                                - Having this even be an issue, wilder yet  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 05:59 PM   #62 
                                   - That would be a choice..  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 06:08 PM   #63 
                                      - What is the alternative to "elective abortion"? "that would be a choice"?  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:13 PM   #64 
                                         - No court cost?  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 06:40 PM   #66 
                                            - That included court cost. I have a good record, begged, did some  uppityperson   Jul-15-09 06:45 PM   #67 
                                               - My concern IS the state  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 06:55 PM   #68 
                 - Rape and incest are psychological wellbeing issues -  haele   Jul-14-09 11:29 AM   #32 
                    - Crime non crime  Pavulon   Jul-14-09 05:29 PM   #41 
                       - Crime or not, abortion is about ending an unwanted pregnancy -  haele   Jul-15-09 03:49 AM   #50 
                          - Not a "community" call. Strictly personal  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:23 PM   #53 
  - Federal employee insurance covered it during BIll Clinton's administration  katandmoon   Jul-14-09 05:24 PM   #39 
  - So a voluntary procedure shouldn't be covered? Then pregnancy/childbirth shouldn't.  katandmoon   Jul-14-09 05:27 PM   #40 
  - It is not under medical..  Pavulon   Jul-14-09 05:40 PM   #42 
     - The FEDERAL employee BCBS plan covers all pregnancy costs  katandmoon   Jul-14-09 11:07 PM   #44 
        - Insurance is regulated by states  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:13 PM   #52 
           - The states do not regulate Federally mandated coverage.  katandmoon   Jul-16-09 12:54 PM   #69 
  - I have never had private insurance that excluded any abortion  REP   Jul-14-09 11:16 PM   #45 
     - Again, based on your state..  Pavulon   Jul-15-09 05:24 PM   #54 
  - Federal employees - whose health insurance is supposed to be so great (but isn't) - can't pay for  solstice   Jul-13-09 09:22 PM   #8 
  - The battle is over, we just don't know it yet.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 09:44 PM   #15 
     - They also have the backing of most of the MSM behind them...  PinkyisBlue   Jul-14-09 12:39 PM   #33 
        - Excellent post.  madfloridian   Jul-14-09 01:27 PM   #34 
  - Do we have a full list of these 19 Dems?  theHandpuppet   Jul-13-09 10:02 PM   #20 
  - Here they are, but they are not the only ones..  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 10:04 PM   #21 
     - Remember these names, people  theHandpuppet   Jul-13-09 10:07 PM   #23 
  - Durbin today on TV said he thought Hyde to be set law.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 10:05 PM   #22 
  - From Street Prophets: a pastor's post about religious bullies and health care.  madfloridian   Jul-13-09 10:22 PM   #24 
  - 86% of counties across the United States currently without a provider??  LooseWilly   Jul-13-09 11:48 PM   #29 
     - Here are some examples of various states and % of counties with no access  madfloridian   Jul-14-09 09:25 AM   #30 
  - problem with - "71% favor including reproductive services such as...  cbdo2007   Jul-14-09 09:42 AM   #31 
  - Those who wish to create separate but unequal health care for woman  me b zola   Jul-14-09 06:11 PM   #43 
     - Yes, many on the religious right equate the two.  madfloridian   Jul-14-09 11:19 PM   #46 
  - It would be in the government's best interest to pay for abortions considering the health care  RB TexLa   Jul-14-09 11:20 PM   #48 
  - Poor children are disposable.  haele   Jul-15-09 04:53 AM   #51 
  - If it won't pay for abortions  shimmergal   Jul-15-09 05:52 PM   #60 
  - I agree. Throwing women's health care under the bus  JerseygirlCT   Jul-15-09 06:17 PM   #65 

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