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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:41 PM
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23. It seems there are no depths their lobbysists won't stoop too, but we know their
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 05:53 PM by Joe Chi Minh
nature: without shame or the least spark of humanity.

Of course, there are imperfections (I believe it is just one particular drug), but health-insurance is also available for those who want to buy it. Prescriptions for drugs for cancers, generally, as well as long-term illnesses, have however been made free of charge. And of course, in any case, such imperfections would ensue precisely from the Government's underfunding of the NHS - to pander to the wealthier tax-payers. Creeping privatisation, notably, here, of the cleaning services, has also led to poor hygiene and the spread of superbugs.

When you get a proper free health-service, make sure that, for instance it covers dental care, eye care and prescriptions - and not cosmetic and services not directly related to physical sickness, such as in vitro fertilisation. Do the job properly.

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  -"England lets people die because the cancer drugs are too expensive" proud2BlibKansan  Jul-12-09 03:55 PM   #0 
  - And insurance companies don't?  backscatter712   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #1 
  - Life expectancy?  izquierdista   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #2 
  - Well, it oughta be pretty damn easy for said wingnut to back up his claims, right?  ret5hd   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #3 
  - ...something he heard on the radio... I'M SURE. n/t  FormerDittoHead   Jul-12-09 05:07 PM   #19 
  - Consider the source.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-12-09 03:57 PM   #4 
  - I got a hellova link to debunk that one...  rucky   Jul-12-09 03:58 PM   #5 
  - thank you. nt  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jul-12-09 04:01 PM   #8 
  - Thanks muchly  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 04:02 PM   #10 
  - Some people are going to die in any system  abumbyanyothername   Jul-12-09 03:58 PM   #6 
  - of course they do - they don't value life  DrDan   Jul-12-09 04:00 PM   #7 
  - "Some wingnut just posted this" - 'nuff said.  BlooInBloo   Jul-12-09 04:02 PM   #9 
  - They are losing this debate and they know it.  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 04:03 PM   #11 
     - And it helps THEM! (Gah - it's so maddening sometimes.)  BlooInBloo   Jul-12-09 04:04 PM   #13 
  - Thatcher-era policies did enormous damage...  Kutjara   Jul-12-09 04:04 PM   #12 
  - Even the point with Thatcher is pretty much b/s  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 05:41 PM   # 
  - "No politician can remain in power in the UK (or even obtain it) without protecting the NHS.  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 06:12 PM   #28 
     - He promised to abolish NHS Targets  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 06:51 PM   #30 
        - Even the concept of "child poverty" is a weasely "con", imo. It's a Mom and apple-pie ploy.  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-13-09 07:18 AM   #43 
  - Yes. One of the many cuts the Regent was responsible for has led to an  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 06:00 PM   #25 
  - Drugs are evaluated for effectiveness, with cost taken into account  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-12-09 04:06 PM   #14 
  - I'd rather ration based on waiting lists than ration based on abillity to pay.  Odin2005   Jul-12-09 04:26 PM   #15 
  - NO, that's the United States. n/t  eShirl   Jul-12-09 04:41 PM   #16 
  - I doubt it.  LostInAnomie   Jul-12-09 04:43 PM   #17 
  - Why don't you ask him for a citation? It's his claim, his job to provide evidence  anigbrowl   Jul-12-09 04:55 PM   #18 
  - His link:  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 08:15 PM   #33 
     - (bangs head on desk) why did 't you put this in OP?  anigbrowl   Jul-12-09 10:01 PM   #38 
        - Because he hadn't posted it yet  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 10:32 PM   #40 
  - England has an (expensive) cure for cancer?  SOS   Jul-12-09 05:09 PM   #20 
  - Tell this joker, America is letting people die daily . No Health  OHdem10   Jul-12-09 05:29 PM   #21 
  - The United States lets people die because the cancer drugs are too expensive  spotbird   Jul-12-09 05:35 PM   #22 
  - It seems there are no depths their lobbysists won't stoop too, but we know their  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 05:41 PM   #23 
  - Do you have a link! N/T  obliviously   Jul-12-09 05:58 PM   #24 
  - It's not their health care system doing this, it's the watchdog group NICE  magellan   Jul-12-09 06:01 PM   #26 
  - Whatever the budget  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 06:16 PM   #29 
     - No argument from me  magellan   Jul-12-09 06:53 PM   #31 
  - Anybody who uses "England" like this is a twit.  hunter   Jul-12-09 06:02 PM   #27 
  - The flipside of course being the people who talk about a "british accent" -nt-  ContinentalOp   Jul-12-09 09:19 PM   #36 
  - There's a drug that cures cancer?  Tan Gent   Jul-12-09 06:55 PM   #32 
  - Crap. It's all crap. The opponents to government paid health care keep coming  Cleita   Jul-12-09 08:21 PM   #34 
  - Sadly there *is* truth to this statement.  mwooldri   Jul-12-09 09:14 PM   #35 
  - Why Is This Excellent Information  The River   Jul-12-09 09:49 PM   #37 
  - There's more lies than truth. That's how the Repubs win many fights.  alfredo   Jul-12-09 10:29 PM   #39 
  - Yes, and DU is full of them these days. n/t  Cleita   Jul-13-09 12:10 AM   #42 
     - This is a messy place. I don't mind that very much. I ignore the trolls  alfredo   Jul-13-09 09:47 AM   #44 
  - Fuck our own insurance companies  taught_me_patience   Jul-12-09 10:34 PM   #41 
 

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