You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #23: It seems there are no depths their lobbysists won't stoop too, but we know their [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
23. It seems there are no depths their lobbysists won't stoop too, but we know their
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 05:53 PM by Joe Chi Minh
nature: without shame or the least spark of humanity.

Of course, there are imperfections (I believe it is just one particular drug), but health-insurance is also available for those who want to buy it. Prescriptions for drugs for cancers, generally, as well as long-term illnesses, have however been made free of charge. And of course, in any case, such imperfections would ensue precisely from the Government's underfunding of the NHS - to pander to the wealthier tax-payers. Creeping privatisation, notably, here, of the cleaning services, has also led to poor hygiene and the spread of superbugs.

When you get a proper free health-service, make sure that, for instance it covers dental care, eye care and prescriptions - and not cosmetic and services not directly related to physical sickness, such as in vitro fertilisation. Do the job properly.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -"England lets people die because the cancer drugs are too expensive" proud2BlibKansan  Jul-12-09 03:55 PM   #0 
  - And insurance companies don't?  backscatter712   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #1 
  - Life expectancy?  izquierdista   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #2 
  - Well, it oughta be pretty damn easy for said wingnut to back up his claims, right?  ret5hd   Jul-12-09 03:56 PM   #3 
  - ...something he heard on the radio... I'M SURE. n/t  FormerDittoHead   Jul-12-09 05:07 PM   #19 
  - Consider the source.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-12-09 03:57 PM   #4 
  - I got a hellova link to debunk that one...  rucky   Jul-12-09 03:58 PM   #5 
  - thank you. nt  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jul-12-09 04:01 PM   #8 
  - Thanks muchly  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 04:02 PM   #10 
  - Some people are going to die in any system  abumbyanyothername   Jul-12-09 03:58 PM   #6 
  - of course they do - they don't value life  DrDan   Jul-12-09 04:00 PM   #7 
  - "Some wingnut just posted this" - 'nuff said.  BlooInBloo   Jul-12-09 04:02 PM   #9 
  - They are losing this debate and they know it.  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 04:03 PM   #11 
     - And it helps THEM! (Gah - it's so maddening sometimes.)  BlooInBloo   Jul-12-09 04:04 PM   #13 
  - Thatcher-era policies did enormous damage...  Kutjara   Jul-12-09 04:04 PM   #12 
  - Even the point with Thatcher is pretty much b/s  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 05:41 PM   # 
  - "No politician can remain in power in the UK (or even obtain it) without protecting the NHS.  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 06:12 PM   #28 
     - He promised to abolish NHS Targets  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 06:51 PM   #30 
        - Even the concept of "child poverty" is a weasely "con", imo. It's a Mom and apple-pie ploy.  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-13-09 07:18 AM   #43 
  - Yes. One of the many cuts the Regent was responsible for has led to an  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 06:00 PM   #25 
  - Drugs are evaluated for effectiveness, with cost taken into account  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-12-09 04:06 PM   #14 
  - I'd rather ration based on waiting lists than ration based on abillity to pay.  Odin2005   Jul-12-09 04:26 PM   #15 
  - NO, that's the United States. n/t  eShirl   Jul-12-09 04:41 PM   #16 
  - I doubt it.  LostInAnomie   Jul-12-09 04:43 PM   #17 
  - Why don't you ask him for a citation? It's his claim, his job to provide evidence  anigbrowl   Jul-12-09 04:55 PM   #18 
  - His link:  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 08:15 PM   #33 
     - (bangs head on desk) why did 't you put this in OP?  anigbrowl   Jul-12-09 10:01 PM   #38 
        - Because he hadn't posted it yet  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-12-09 10:32 PM   #40 
  - England has an (expensive) cure for cancer?  SOS   Jul-12-09 05:09 PM   #20 
  - Tell this joker, America is letting people die daily . No Health  OHdem10   Jul-12-09 05:29 PM   #21 
  - The United States lets people die because the cancer drugs are too expensive  spotbird   Jul-12-09 05:35 PM   #22 
  - It seems there are no depths their lobbysists won't stoop too, but we know their  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-12-09 05:41 PM   #23 
  - Do you have a link! N/T  obliviously   Jul-12-09 05:58 PM   #24 
  - It's not their health care system doing this, it's the watchdog group NICE  magellan   Jul-12-09 06:01 PM   #26 
  - Whatever the budget  TheBigotBasher   Jul-12-09 06:16 PM   #29 
     - No argument from me  magellan   Jul-12-09 06:53 PM   #31 
  - Anybody who uses "England" like this is a twit.  hunter   Jul-12-09 06:02 PM   #27 
  - The flipside of course being the people who talk about a "british accent" -nt-  ContinentalOp   Jul-12-09 09:19 PM   #36 
  - There's a drug that cures cancer?  Tan Gent   Jul-12-09 06:55 PM   #32 
  - Crap. It's all crap. The opponents to government paid health care keep coming  Cleita   Jul-12-09 08:21 PM   #34 
  - Sadly there *is* truth to this statement.  mwooldri   Jul-12-09 09:14 PM   #35 
  - Why Is This Excellent Information  The River   Jul-12-09 09:49 PM   #37 
  - There's more lies than truth. That's how the Repubs win many fights.  alfredo   Jul-12-09 10:29 PM   #39 
  - Yes, and DU is full of them these days. n/t  Cleita   Jul-13-09 12:10 AM   #42 
     - This is a messy place. I don't mind that very much. I ignore the trolls  alfredo   Jul-13-09 09:47 AM   #44 
  - Fuck our own insurance companies  taught_me_patience   Jul-12-09 10:34 PM   #41 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC