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22. She concentrated on her own message -- which was the humanitarian crisis
that she sought to relieve -- at some risk to her own safety I might add

The interviewer did make derogatory comments about what he referred to as the "political ideology of Zionism" -- as I noted in the OP. And as I said, that could have been contrued as anti-Semitic. McKinney did not give that interview to argue about whether the interviewer's use of the term "Zionism" was meant as anti-Semitic. She did it to bring attention to a humanitarian crisis about which she was very concerned. It would not have served that purpose to get involved in an argument with the interviewer. As I said in the OP, she did note that she believed that the "vast majority" of the people of Israel were peace loving. I don't call that anti-Semitic.

Even so, she did contradict the interviewer at one point, when he alluded to his believe that Obama did not have a U.S. birth certificate. It had something to do with Obama having gone under the name of Barry Soetoro. McKinney asked him politely at that point something to the effect, "How is it that you saw that document if nobody else did?"
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  -The Vilification of Cynthia McKinney Time for change  Jul-09-09 06:53 PM   #0 
  - Increasingly, "progressive" voices on websites are being drowned out  Horse with no Name   Jul-09-09 06:56 PM   #1 
  - There could well be something to this. Maybe their detoxing from the koolaid? n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:55 PM   #130 
  - What would you think of a progressive politician who gave an extensive interview  cali   Jul-09-09 06:59 PM   #2 
  - I'd think she was doing what Obama asked us to do...and that's  KoKo   Jul-09-09 07:02 PM   #4 
  - bwahahahaha. Obama never ever did anything like that. Not even close.  cali   Jul-09-09 07:17 PM   #12 
  - "It's an infamous hate site. period."  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:29 PM   #115 
  - Let me know when Obama interviews with Stormfront. nt  hack89   Jul-09-09 10:20 PM   #113 
  - A lot of anti-Israel statements; no bigoted anti-Semitic statements.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:03 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-09 07:16 PM   #10 
  - I don't know how you do it  G_j   Jul-09-09 07:22 PM   #16 
  - It most certainly is an anti-Israel site - but thats not the same as being anti-Semitic.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:23 PM   #17 
  - the interview was not given by, or to the ppl at that site  G_j   Jul-09-09 07:25 PM   #19 
  - Actually, yes she gave them to the site owners  Lithos   Jul-10-09 01:01 AM   #144 
  - bullshit. it's an pure hate anti-semitic site extolling on the front page some  cali   Jul-09-09 07:38 PM   #26 
  - And where are McKinney's "bigoted anti-Semitic statements"?  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:51 PM   #39 
  - silence is the voice of complicity and she lent her name and whatever sway and legitimacy she  cali   Jul-09-09 08:09 PM   #53 
     - You make accusations, but can't provide any evidence  baldguy   Jul-09-09 08:26 PM   #65 
     - I'm accusing her of interviewing with bigots and not calling the interviewer on the hate and bigotry  cali   Jul-09-09 08:31 PM   #66 
     - Guilt by association.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 08:55 PM   #75 
        - which is also  G_j   Jul-09-09 09:05 PM   #83 
           - +1  baldguy   Jul-09-09 09:15 PM   #91 
     - I have to agree the other person has a very weak argument with why she's SUCH a bigot  Divine Discontent   Jul-09-09 10:38 PM   #120 
     - Do you mean like when Obama or Hillary, or Bill was on fox news?  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:12 PM   #89 
        - no. I don't. and as I recall there are plenty of DUers who argue against  cali   Jul-10-09 04:55 AM   #147 
  - And what did McKinney say on the program?  Canuckistanian   Jul-09-09 08:34 PM   #67 
     - Silence is the voice of complicity. She interviewed with one of the ugliest hate  cali   Jul-09-09 08:35 PM   #68 
  - You said it's not an anti-Semitic site  rpannier   Jul-09-09 10:31 PM   #117 
     - This thread is about Cynthia McKinney  baldguy   Jul-09-09 10:53 PM   #129 
  - Perhaps a gentle reminder that Palestinians and Arabs are also Semitic people is in order...  1monster   Jul-09-09 08:03 PM   #49 
     - oh for pity's sake. perhaps an education on the word anti-semitic is in order.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:07 PM   #51 
     - The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern people originating in  1monster   Jul-09-09 08:57 PM   #78 
        - And yet, in all those definitions, not one for "anti-Semitism."  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 09:01 PM   #80 
           - To defind anti-semitism, one must first define semitism...  1monster   Jul-09-09 09:12 PM   #90 
              - Um...no  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 09:16 PM   #93 
              - no. that's not how language works. do consider learning something about  cali   Jul-10-09 05:05 AM   #150 
     - Another gentle reminder: park in driveways and drive on parkways. That is all.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #59 
  - I suggest that you visit that sight before defending it, click in its search box  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #32 
  - +1  emilyg   Jul-09-09 07:03 PM   #6 
  - That's the interview I discussed in this OP  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:04 PM   #7 
  - I didn't characterize it as anti-Muslim hate site. I drew an analogy.  cali   Jul-09-09 07:19 PM   #14 
     - She concentrated on her own message -- which was the humanitarian crisis  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:33 PM   #22 
     - Some people see the mention of the word Israel and see Anti-Semitic...  KoKo   Jul-09-09 07:39 PM   #27 
        - that site is as bloody hateful as stormfront. every bit as much  cali   Jul-09-09 07:50 PM   #38 
  - -1  druidity33   Jul-09-09 07:16 PM   #11 
  - You Attack Anyone  The River   Jul-09-09 07:18 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-09 07:42 PM   #34 
  - There are Jews that support McKinney  Luminous Animal   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #33 
  - K&R  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:00 PM   #3 
  - Sing it. K&R and thank you.  EFerrari   Jul-09-09 07:12 PM   #8 
  - Interestingly, Zionism was once embraced by European antisemites.  TahitiNut   Jul-09-09 07:14 PM   #9 
  - She's More Than Just A Bigot. She's A Dumb As Dirt Delusional Attention Whore As Well.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 07:20 PM   #15 
  - You seem to be projecting a little here! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 07:45 PM   #36 
  - Quite a loud projection...  KoKo   Jul-09-09 08:01 PM   #48 
  - Stadium jumbo screen like! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 08:07 PM   #52 
  - And, as Dr. Evil would say....  RufusTFirefly   Jul-09-09 10:34 PM   #118 
  - Projecting The Truth.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 10:44 PM   #124 
     - So you equate truth to effluent? n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:49 PM   #127 
        - So You Cook Babies For Pleasure And Eat Them With Mashed Potatoes???  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-10-09 08:06 AM   #164 
  - +1. She was an embarrassment to the party and I was elated when she got voted out.  Zavulon   Jul-09-09 08:25 PM   #64 
  - Agree, she's an insane liability  DissedByBush   Jul-09-09 10:30 PM   #116 
  - I'm going to guess that's a no vote. n/t  Mugu   Jul-09-09 11:02 PM   #132 
  - Outstanding post. Thank you.  LWolf   Jul-09-09 07:24 PM   #18 
  - Man, that was such a well-written piece.  kayakjohnny   Jul-09-09 07:27 PM   #20 
  - Reason rocks! You are true blue my forum friend. K & R nt  glitch   Jul-09-09 07:28 PM   #21 
  - K&R and thanks for another well written piece on an uncomfortable (for some) subject.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-09 07:35 PM   #23 
  - Thank you.  JackRiddler   Jul-09-09 07:36 PM   #24 
  - I'm not convinced the batshit insane loon from the Green Party isn't an anti-semitic bigot  WeDidIt   Jul-09-09 07:38 PM   #25 
  - "anti-semitic bigot"...piss off..nt  and-justice-for-all   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #31 
  - Your sig...  MellowDem   Jul-09-09 09:03 PM   #81 
  - It's More Dramatic When You Capitalize The First Letter In Each Word Of A Flamebait Post Like That  omega minimo   Jul-09-09 07:57 PM   #44 
  - I do that  WeDidIt   Jul-09-09 09:08 PM   #85 
  - +1  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 10:44 PM   #125 
  - Oops! There we go with the tell-tale  timtom   Jul-10-09 06:15 AM   #156 
     - Whats wrong with saying "batshit insane loon"? n/t  Kurska   Jul-10-09 06:28 AM   #158 
        - It demonstrates shallowness and stupidity.  timtom   Jul-10-09 09:23 AM   #166 
  - Cynthia got up and did something, what did you do?  and-justice-for-all   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #28 
  - I hope this is directed at someone else  Time for change   Jul-10-09 09:19 AM   #165 
  - Correction.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #29 
  - Ok -- It is possible that derogatory comments against Israel can be made with anti-Semitic intention  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:58 PM   #46 
     - Which is what I said, and you did not.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 08:00 PM   #47 
        - Certainly Israel has been deserving  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:37 PM   #119 
           - You have a point?  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 10:41 PM   #123 
           - Thank you..  and-justice-for-all   Jul-10-09 03:37 PM   #197 
  - K&R  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #30 
  - Lets not forget she also abandoned the Democratic Party  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 07:45 PM   #35 
  - She didn't abandon it. She got voted out of office  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:51 PM   #40 
  - And then went over to the Greens  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 10:00 PM   #107 
  - +1, she had no alternative. nt  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:38 PM   #121 
  - Lets not forget that TPTB in the Democratic party abandoned her.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:54 PM   #41 
     - True, and Georgia is all electronic voting state...with much controversy..  KoKo   Jul-09-09 08:20 PM   #57 
     - See post #62  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 10:00 PM   #106 
  - You mentioned Katrina...  SidDithers   Jul-09-09 07:48 PM   #37 
  - That claim about her is bogus  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:54 PM   #42 
     - Where you admit you haven't seen the video? That discussion?  cali   Jul-09-09 08:14 PM   #56 
     - Did you read the Green Party response to the allegations against McKinney?  Time for change   Jul-09-09 08:50 PM   #72 
        - She claimed that she had "verification" from "insiders" at the Red Cross that the allegations  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:09 PM   #87 
        - Where is the video?  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:41 PM   #99 
        - See the link Sid Dithers left for you in post #37. It's been there for hours.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:48 PM   #102 
           - It sounds like she's saying that she has NO verification  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:57 PM   #104 
              - "I have uh verification from insiders uh who who wish to remain anonymous at the red cross"  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 11:03 PM   #134 
              - Tell me her words don't sound a lot more like NO than uh  Time for change   Jul-10-09 06:11 AM   #155 
              - Sounds to me like she says she has verification from multiple sources...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:46 AM   #161 
        - I wouldn't put it past Bush & Co....  asksam   Jul-10-09 11:43 AM   #173 
        - "McKinney was investigating it"...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:52 AM   #162 
           - She never even claimed it was true. She said that she was told that.  Time for change   Jul-10-09 10:01 AM   #167 
              - Your blind defense of her is laughable...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 11:48 AM   #174 
                 - Did you read the report that she wrote on the subject?  Time for change   Jul-10-09 12:42 PM   #179 
                    - You're defending the indefensible...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 02:05 PM   #182 
                       - In other words, no, you didn't read it and you don't care what it says  Time for change   Jul-10-09 02:57 PM   #185 
                          - In other words, she didn't mention the 5000 people shot in the head...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:02 PM   #186 
                             - She did NOT claim that 5000 people were shot in the head.  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:11 PM   #188 
                                - She claimed she was told of the incident...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:21 PM   #190 
                                   - Oh she did not say she knew it was true. That's pure crap  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:34 PM   #194 
                                      - Have you go so much pride invested in McKinney...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:42 PM   #198 
     - Bogus My Ass. I've transcribed VERBATIM, just for YOU, her words during the press conference  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 08:42 PM   #70 
        - I"m so sick of people making shit up- like that McKinney didn't say something  cali   Jul-09-09 08:45 PM   #71 
           - I didn't claim that she didn't say it.  Time for change   Jul-09-09 08:52 PM   #73 
           - that's just ridiculous. utterly silly.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:57 PM   #77 
              - The claim was bogus  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:35 PM   #98 
                 - It's bigoted, not bigotted and I suggest you read Lithos' post in this thread  cali   Jul-10-09 05:09 AM   #152 
                    - Your arguing that I claimed she didn't say it is pathetic  Time for change   Jul-10-09 07:43 AM   #160 
           - I totally agree cali, but there are her words, transcribed verbatim from her press conference.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:06 PM   #84 
              - Good job on the transcript...nt  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:54 AM   #163 
  - K/R ya damn Leftist  omega minimo   Jul-09-09 07:55 PM   #43 
  - Cynthia McKinney for the Nobel Peace Prize.  Bushknew   Jul-09-09 07:57 PM   #45 
  - +1. She's a wonderful and courageous lady. n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 09:59 PM   #105 
  - I have to think less of anyone who refers to McKinney as "batshit insane"  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 08:04 PM   #50 
  - "batshit" seems to be very popular.  glitch   Jul-09-09 08:14 PM   #55 
  - I have to think less of anyone who defends her doing an interview on one of the  cali   Jul-09-09 08:54 PM   #74 
  - OK, you're entitled to your opinion  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 08:56 PM   #76 
  - And I have to think less of anyone who uses the same old intellectually lazy method of  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:04 PM   #82 
  - I really don't care what you think of me  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 09:30 PM   #95 
  - +1  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:21 PM   #94 
  - Agree 100%! Two hundred or so McKinneys in the federal government would fix a lot of things. n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:02 PM   #109 
  - Excellent post , Time for a change...  Desertrose   Jul-09-09 08:12 PM   #54 
  - K&R  Vidar   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #58 
  - It takes a Villiage  HughMoran   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #60 
  - The vilification began shortly after she dared to question Bush  ecstatic   Jul-09-09 08:23 PM   #61 
  - baloney.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:24 PM   #63 
     - forgot the n/t  G_j   Jul-09-09 09:00 PM   #79 
  - Hi. I live in her district. She was ousted by our Very Liberal Local Democratic Party.  onehandle   Jul-09-09 08:23 PM   #62 
  - What was it that she said or did  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:43 PM   #100 
  - Thank you so much for your post. nt  jasi2006   Jul-09-09 08:36 PM   #69 
  - Please  Boddingham   Jul-09-09 09:09 PM   #86 
  - America didn't supply Israel with nuclear Technology you twit, france did, learn the history, THEN  Kurska   Jul-10-09 06:04 AM   #154 
  - Kicked, rec'd & bookmarked  varelse   Jul-09-09 09:11 PM   #88 
  - Wish I could recommend a hundred times  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:15 PM   #92 
  - Thank you for so clearly and thoroughly summarizing the facts about that smear.  ConsAreLiars   Jul-09-09 09:31 PM   #96 
  - saved for later n/t  snake in the grass   Jul-09-09 09:33 PM   #97 
  - Cynthia McKinney doesn't need help being villified  northzax   Jul-09-09 09:44 PM   #101 
  - I am so glad you endorse that there was indeed a grassy knoll shooter! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:04 PM   #110 
  - Well, there's this scuffle with the law in DC. Appears that rules for  Obamanaut   Jul-09-09 09:49 PM   #103 
  - It reminds me of the Dean Scream  Time for change   Jul-09-09 10:01 PM   #108 
     - ... and for eight loonnnggg years the MSM ignored Bush's stupefying stupidity! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:07 PM   #111 
     - Indeed. And the stats for the "Dean Scream" are sobering  RufusTFirefly   Jul-09-09 10:40 PM   #122 
     - I don't recall ever seeing Bush say, "Is our children learning." Go figure! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:52 PM   #128 
     - And it is this point that we should  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:48 PM   #126 
  - Good solid case and Excellent writing. Bravo! and Thank You! nt  patrice   Jul-09-09 10:15 PM   #112 
  - Anyone who claimed that Al Gore had a "low negro tolerance level" deserves vilification  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-09-09 10:24 PM   #114 
  - Here  Boddingham   Jul-09-09 11:02 PM   #133 
  - Fantastic post. Thank you. K&R -nt  crickets   Jul-09-09 10:57 PM   #131 
  - McKinney is a joke and im glad she left the party.  NYC Democrat   Jul-09-09 11:08 PM   #135 
  - Yes, yes, yes, Cynthia McKinney is not a bigot  Lithos   Jul-09-09 11:32 PM   #136 
  - Well said.  proteus_lives   Jul-10-09 12:13 AM   #139 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-09 01:04 AM   #145 
  - Thanks for putting it so clearly.  cali   Jul-10-09 05:02 AM   #149 
  - This reminds me of the smearing of Obama with his association with Bill Ayers and Jeramiah Wright  Time for change   Jul-10-09 06:25 AM   #157 
  - Cynthia McKinney  Lithos   Jul-10-09 10:07 AM   #168 
     - You make a lot of claims, but show nothing concrete  Time for change   Jul-10-09 11:29 AM   #171 
     - Guilt by association, apparently.  Ignis   Jul-10-09 12:05 PM   #176 
        - That's exactly right  Time for change   Jul-10-09 12:43 PM   #180 
        - What if we held Obama to the same twisted standards?  Ignis   Jul-10-09 03:07 PM   #187 
           - Touché  Bushknew   Jul-10-09 03:27 PM   #192 
        - silence is the voice of c omplicity. and Cynthia says that herself.  cali   Jul-10-09 05:15 PM   #203 
     - This isn't about McKinney's dad or her security detail.  EOTE   Jul-10-09 12:30 PM   #177 
        - thank you  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 03:23 PM   #191 
  - Ok, Jewish people have no influence on US affairs or in the world at all & people  Bushknew   Jul-10-09 10:47 AM   #170 
  - Well done article. Thank you  arikara   Jul-09-09 11:37 PM   #137 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-09-09 11:45 PM   #138 
  - Thanks, TforC, for helping set the record straight....  mojowork_n   Jul-10-09 12:21 AM   #140 
  - as with the majority of politicians  ibegurpard   Jul-10-09 12:24 AM   #141 
  - K&R, highly recommended....  AntiFascist   Jul-10-09 12:43 AM   #142 
  - I am not a fan of Cynthia McKinney but I am a fan of Cynthia McKinney's  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 12:57 AM   #143 
  - A very old adage says that if you stab the King, you better kill him.  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 01:23 AM   #146 
  - I am very hesitant to criticize people for "losing"  Time for change   Jul-10-09 04:27 PM   #200 
     - Agree that there is nobility in running on principles, even against  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 09:55 PM   #204 
  - Auto K&R  Greyhound   Jul-10-09 04:58 AM   #148 
  - An excellent and...  snake in the grass   Jul-10-09 05:06 AM   #151 
  - Why was this pulled from the Greatest page?  cali   Jul-10-09 05:14 AM   #153 
  - good question  G_j   Jul-10-09 06:45 AM   #159 
  - I'd like to know this too.  EOTE   Jul-10-09 12:34 PM   #178 
  - thank you  ensho   Jul-10-09 10:34 AM   #169 
  - I do like Cynthia McKinney for many things, but I do have questions at times on this subject...  cascadiance   Jul-10-09 11:41 AM   #172 
  - thank you time for change  barbtries   Jul-10-09 11:55 AM   #175 
  - Cynthia is a truth-teller.  Karenina   Jul-10-09 01:55 PM   #181 
  - that's it  G_j   Jul-10-09 02:33 PM   #183 
  - OMG, you sound like Cynthia McKinney!  Time for change   Jul-10-09 04:57 PM   #201 
     - BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Karenina   Jul-10-09 05:07 PM   #202 
  - kicking an outstanding post  me b zola   Jul-10-09 02:52 PM   #184 
  - great post  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 03:20 PM   #189 
  - "McKinney helped expose the horrific conditions of Katrina evacuees"  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-09 03:30 PM   #193 
  - Read her report  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:36 PM   #195 
     - Do you deny that she made that claim? nt  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-09 03:37 PM   #196 
  - Among the third-party candidates running in 2008, McKinney finished  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 03:47 PM   #199 
 

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