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The Vilification of Cynthia McKinney
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It makes me sad and angry to hear Cynthia McKinney accused of bigotry. Its bad enough to hear right wingers do that thats to be expected. But to hear charges like that spread on progressive web sites is depressing.

During her 12 year Congressional career, Cynthia McKinney was one of our most progressive members of Congress. In these times when so many Democratic members of Congress have disappointed us so much by their failure to stand up for liberal/progressive causes, I am especially appreciative of a congresswoman who has been consistently unafraid to stand up for what she (and we) believes in.

Because of her outspokenness on some key issues, there are few if any members of Congress who have been as feared and hated by the powerful as much as Cynthia McKinney. This article sums up many of the reasons for that:

First elected to Congress in 1992, McKinney was an outspoken opponent of the Bush administrations policies on issues ranging from the war on Iraq to cutbacks in social programs.

She took on the blatant disenfranchisement of Black voters in the Florida election in 2000. She held a hearing that determined that Florida state officials knowingly used faulty data to remove tens of thousands of registered voters from the precinct lists for being convicted felons.

McKinney helped expose the horrific conditions of Katrina evacuees. She castigated the Patriot Act and compared it to the FBIs Cointel program that targeted Dr. Martin Luther King, the Black Panther Party and other freedom fighters during the 1960s. She stood up for African nations to get favorable trade agreements and loans to improve their economies.

The right-wing focused on a lengthy radio interview she did in 2001, where she commented on the Bush administrations objections to there being an official investigation into 9/11. She stated that the public had the right to know what the administration and the various governmental agencies knew about any impending threats and when they knew. In this period prior to the onset of the war on Iraq, any and all criticism of the Bush administration was treated as heresy. McKinney was pilloried in the press, called a wacko and worse...

As a result of McKinneys many high profile words and actions, her primary opponent in her 2002 bid for re-election to Georgias 4th District House seat was massively assisted by a national media campaign of slander against McKinney. She won her seat back in 2004, but in 2006 her seat was targeted again, thus ending her Congressional career (apparently), as she was the only Congressional Democrat to lose her seat that year. Its a shame that some on the left have bought into the right wing slander against her.

A few words about anti-Semitism

As I noted in my last post, I know something about anti-Semitism because of my Jewish family history. Much or all of my family from my parents and grandparents generations were subjected to a great deal of anti-Semitism, and some were Holocaust victims. So I learned a lot about anti-Semitism from my family, though fortunately for me I was never subjected to much of it myself. Anyhow, in making charges of anti-Semitism against people, we should get some terminology straight.

Derogatory comments about Jews as a people are anti-Semitic. Derogatory comments about specific Jews, however, do not necessarily constitute anti-Semitism unless the derogatory comments are based on the fact that the person is Jewish, rather than something else. For example, Ive criticized Joe Lieberman many times. That is not anti-Semitism unless I specifically targeted him for criticism because he is a Jew.

Derogatory comments against Israel are NOT anti-Semitic any more than the criticism of any government is an indication of bigotry. For example, I have posted numerous criticisms of my own government, and yet I dont believe that that makes me anti-American or unpatriotic. By the same token, voicing concerns about or criticizing those who lobby on behalf of Israel in the United States is not anti-Semitic.

Then there is a gray area with respect to Zionism. Zionism was originally defined, beginning in 1897, as a political movement aimed at establishing a unique homeland for the Jewish people. Zionism was motivated by the fact that Jews throughout many parts of the world had suffered through many centuries of severe discrimination. Following the Nazi Holocaust, Zionism became much more popular, for obvious reasons. Being against Zionism was not necessarily a sign of anti-Semitism. There were many Jews at the time who were not Zionists or who were against Zionism for many different reasons. Nor was it necessarily considered an insult to be called a Zionist.

Today however, there are many people who use the word Zionist to denote something akin to Jewish imperialism. Is that anti-Semitic? The way some people use that word, it seems like a back-door means of expressing their anti-Semitism. But in order to know whether use of that term is an indication of anti-Semitism, one would have to consider the context in which it is used, and/or make assumptions about a persons motives in using it. Thats why I say its a gray area. It may be that most people who use that word today use it with anti-Semitic intentions. I dont want to argue about that here. It is usually best not to use that word unless one makes it clear how it is being used and that it is not meant as a slur against Jews.

On the claim that Cynthia McKinney is anti-Semitic or bigoted

Ive heard the claim that Cynthia McKinney is anti-Semitic many times, yet Ive never heard her make an anti-Semitic statement. When Ive looked into those and other allegations against her Ive never found anything substantive. Articles that accuse her of anti-Semitism make wide use of guilt by association, or cite criticism of Israel by McKinney herself as proof of her anti-Semitism. Youd think that if she was really anti-Semitic her accusers would be able to find a single anti-Semitic statement that she spoke or wrote herself.

For example, I recently listened to a radio interview in which McKinney was accused of exhibiting anti-Semitic views. Though the interviewer made several statements that could have been construed as anti-Semitic, McKinney did nothing to facilitate that. She never used the word Jew or Zionist. She did harshly criticize the Israeli government, primarily for its obstruction of a humanitarian mission to Gaza in which she was involved in December 2008. She said that the boat she was on was surrounded by Israeli warships that purposely and with violent intentions rammed her boat (the Dignity), threatened her and her fellow passengers, and prevented the boat from completing its humanitarian mission. She accused the Israeli government of lying about the episode in several respects.

Only once during the interview did McKinney mention the Jewish people (actually she said the people of Israel), as opposed to the Israeli government. That was when she said something to the effect that she believes or hopes to believe that the vast majority of the people of Israel are peace loving people who want to live in peace with their neighbors. She made it clear that her complaints were with the Israeli government, not its people.

And what about the complaint that McKinney shouldnt give interviews with interviewers like that, or that she should have argued with him when he made statements that could have been construed as anti-Semitic?

First of all, progressives are often interviewed by FOX News or other bigoted or corporate news organizations. Wesley Clark was even a commentator for FOX News. How many liberals have appeared on news shows with Pat Buchanan or other like-minded talking heads, for example? Do we accuse them of being bigots because of that?
Is there not a double standard operating here?

Secondly, McKinney granted this particular interview because she wanted to register a public complaint against the actions of the Israeli government an ally of her own country and draw attention to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Would respectable news organizations in the United States have granted her such an interview? Not likely. She had a point to make, and she used that particular forum to make it. She didnt wish to dilute her message by getting involved in a discussion about whether or not her interviewer had anti-Semitic intentions with regard to his remarks about Zionists. But she did not publicly agree with any remotely anti-Semitic sentiments that may have been implied during the interview.

The most important reason for right wing hatred of Cynthia McKinney

McKinneys questioning of the Bush administrations role in the 9/11 attacks on our country, and her opposition to the Iraq War were probably the biggest reasons why she became a right wing target. Indeed, it is fair to say that her words about George Bush in this 2002 speech crossed a line that many Americans consider sacred, especially with regard to Bushs role in the 9/11 attacks on our country, and also with regard to McKinneys adamant opposition to the Iraq War.

I'm most proud of my work to hold this Administration accountable to the American people. And after I've asked the tough questions, here's what we now know:

That President Bush was warned that terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft and crash them into buildings in the US. (She then lists much more evidence of pre-knowledge of the event).

All of this has become public knowledge since I asked the simple question: What did the Bush Administration know and when did it know it? Now against this backdrop of so many unanswered questions, President Bush wants us to pledge our blind support to him. First, for his war on terrorism and now for his war in Iraq. How can we, in good conscience, prepare to send our young men and women back to Iraq to fight yet another war

Lets Not Help the Far Right in their Efforts to Destroy Cynthia McKinneys Reputation

The far right and corporate interests in the United States have developed a powerful, insidious and effective echo chamber for destroying those who pose a threat to them. Lets not forget the way that they repeatedly lied about Al Gore during the 2000 election campaign; how the zillions of repetitions of the Dean Scream destroyed Howard Deans Presidential candidacy in 2004; the swiftboating of John Kerry in 2004; or the Harry and Louise adds that derailed a national health care plan during the Clinton administration. In large part, these efforts and many more were successful because they were able to convince some moderates and even progressives to buy into their pile of lies and exaggerations.

Cynthia McKinney has some issues with the nation of Israel, in particular with their alliance with militant Neoconservatives in the United States. She has not hesitated to voice her opinions on these issues. Her enemies, especially those with an interest in propagating war in the Middle East, have used this to paint her as anti-Semitic or bigoted, and too many people have bought into that myth. As a matter of fact, the same people did the same thing to former President Jimmy Carter, with respect to his book, Peace, Not Apartheid. But this is NOT a Jewish issue. American Jews in general are far to the left of the state of Israel and those Jews who lobby on behalf of Israel in the United States. In 2008, Jews voted Democratic for President in overwhelming numbers (78%), more than any other religious group, including none and other. I feel certain that if my parents were alive today that they would have similar criticisms of Israel to those that McKinney has.

McKinneys courageous stands have gotten her into great trouble with the far right and the powers that be on many occasions: Her steadfast anti-war stance; her efforts on behalf of the victims of Hurricane Katrina; her questioning of our governments account of the events of 9-11; her introduction of impeachment resolutions against George W. Bush on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives; her participation with the Free Gaza movement in helping to provide humanitarian relief to the people of Gaza; and most recently, her refusal to sign an Israeli document that would have allowed her to be released from an Israeli jail in return for admitting guilt for violating an Israeli blockade in connection with her humanitarian mission.

Our country desperately needs politicians like Cynthia McKinney politicians who will not shrink from protecting the vulnerable or criticizing the powerful. Her words and actions mean a great deal to us in an era when so few public officials are willing to speak the truth about grave abuses of power by high government officials. Those same words and actions mark her out as a prime target for those whose main interest is in maintaining the status quo. Consequently, her words and actions are constantly twisted, exaggerated, and misinterpreted with the intent of marginalizing, vilifying and demonizing her. Lets hope that those who do that dont continue to get away with it.
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  -The Vilification of Cynthia McKinney Time for change  Jul-09-09 06:53 PM   #0 
  - Increasingly, "progressive" voices on websites are being drowned out  Horse with no Name   Jul-09-09 06:56 PM   #1 
  - There could well be something to this. Maybe their detoxing from the koolaid? n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:55 PM   #130 
  - What would you think of a progressive politician who gave an extensive interview  cali   Jul-09-09 06:59 PM   #2 
  - I'd think she was doing what Obama asked us to do...and that's  KoKo   Jul-09-09 07:02 PM   #4 
  - bwahahahaha. Obama never ever did anything like that. Not even close.  cali   Jul-09-09 07:17 PM   #12 
  - "It's an infamous hate site. period."  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:29 PM   #115 
  - Let me know when Obama interviews with Stormfront. nt  hack89   Jul-09-09 10:20 PM   #113 
  - A lot of anti-Israel statements; no bigoted anti-Semitic statements.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:03 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-09 07:16 PM   #10 
  - I don't know how you do it  G_j   Jul-09-09 07:22 PM   #16 
  - It most certainly is an anti-Israel site - but thats not the same as being anti-Semitic.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:23 PM   #17 
  - the interview was not given by, or to the ppl at that site  G_j   Jul-09-09 07:25 PM   #19 
  - Actually, yes she gave them to the site owners  Lithos   Jul-10-09 01:01 AM   #144 
  - bullshit. it's an pure hate anti-semitic site extolling on the front page some  cali   Jul-09-09 07:38 PM   #26 
  - And where are McKinney's "bigoted anti-Semitic statements"?  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:51 PM   #39 
  - silence is the voice of complicity and she lent her name and whatever sway and legitimacy she  cali   Jul-09-09 08:09 PM   #53 
     - You make accusations, but can't provide any evidence  baldguy   Jul-09-09 08:26 PM   #65 
     - I'm accusing her of interviewing with bigots and not calling the interviewer on the hate and bigotry  cali   Jul-09-09 08:31 PM   #66 
     - Guilt by association.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 08:55 PM   #75 
        - which is also  G_j   Jul-09-09 09:05 PM   #83 
           - +1  baldguy   Jul-09-09 09:15 PM   #91 
     - I have to agree the other person has a very weak argument with why she's SUCH a bigot  Divine Discontent   Jul-09-09 10:38 PM   #120 
     - Do you mean like when Obama or Hillary, or Bill was on fox news?  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:12 PM   #89 
        - no. I don't. and as I recall there are plenty of DUers who argue against  cali   Jul-10-09 04:55 AM   #147 
  - And what did McKinney say on the program?  Canuckistanian   Jul-09-09 08:34 PM   #67 
     - Silence is the voice of complicity. She interviewed with one of the ugliest hate  cali   Jul-09-09 08:35 PM   #68 
  - You said it's not an anti-Semitic site  rpannier   Jul-09-09 10:31 PM   #117 
     - This thread is about Cynthia McKinney  baldguy   Jul-09-09 10:53 PM   #129 
  - Perhaps a gentle reminder that Palestinians and Arabs are also Semitic people is in order...  1monster   Jul-09-09 08:03 PM   #49 
     - oh for pity's sake. perhaps an education on the word anti-semitic is in order.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:07 PM   #51 
     - The term Semite means a member of any of various ancient and modern people originating in  1monster   Jul-09-09 08:57 PM   #78 
        - And yet, in all those definitions, not one for "anti-Semitism."  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 09:01 PM   #80 
           - To defind anti-semitism, one must first define semitism...  1monster   Jul-09-09 09:12 PM   #90 
              -  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 09:16 PM   #93 
              - no. that's not how language works. do consider learning something about  cali   Jul-10-09 05:05 AM   #150 
     - Another gentle reminder: park in driveways and drive on parkways. That is all.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #59 
  - I suggest that you visit that sight before defending it, click in its search box  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #32 
  - +1  emilyg   Jul-09-09 07:03 PM   #6 
  - That's the interview I discussed in this OP  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:04 PM   #7 
  - I didn't characterize it as anti-Muslim hate site. I drew an analogy.  cali   Jul-09-09 07:19 PM   #14 
     - She concentrated on her own message -- which was the humanitarian crisis  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:33 PM   #22 
     - Some people see the mention of the word Israel and see Anti-Semitic...  KoKo   Jul-09-09 07:39 PM   #27 
        - that site is as bloody hateful as stormfront. every bit as much  cali   Jul-09-09 07:50 PM   #38 
  - -1  druidity33   Jul-09-09 07:16 PM   #11 
  - You Attack Anyone  The River   Jul-09-09 07:18 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-09 07:42 PM   #34 
  - There are Jews that support McKinney  Luminous Animal   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #33 
  - K&R  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:00 PM   #3 
  - Sing it. K&R and thank you.  EFerrari   Jul-09-09 07:12 PM   #8 
  - Interestingly, Zionism was once embraced by European antisemites.  TahitiNut   Jul-09-09 07:14 PM   #9 
  - She's More Than Just A Bigot. She's A Dumb As Dirt Delusional Attention Whore As Well.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 07:20 PM   #15 
  - You seem to be projecting a little here! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 07:45 PM   #36 
  - Quite a loud projection...  KoKo   Jul-09-09 08:01 PM   #48 
  - Stadium jumbo screen like! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 08:07 PM   #52 
  - And, as Dr. Evil would say....  RufusTFirefly   Jul-09-09 10:34 PM   #118 
  - Projecting The Truth.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 10:44 PM   #124 
     - So you equate truth to effluent? n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:49 PM   #127 
        - So You Cook Babies For Pleasure And Eat Them With Mashed Potatoes???  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-10-09 08:06 AM   #164 
  - +1. She was an embarrassment to the party and I was elated when she got voted out.  Zavulon   Jul-09-09 08:25 PM   #64 
  - Agree, she's an insane liability  DissedByBush   Jul-09-09 10:30 PM   #116 
  - I'm going to guess that's a no vote. n/t  Mugu   Jul-09-09 11:02 PM   #132 
  - Outstanding post. Thank you.  LWolf   Jul-09-09 07:24 PM   #18 
  - Man, that was such a well-written piece.  kayakjohnny   Jul-09-09 07:27 PM   #20 
  - Reason rocks! You are true blue my forum friend. K & R nt  glitch   Jul-09-09 07:28 PM   #21 
  - K&R and thanks for another well written piece on an uncomfortable (for some) subject.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-09 07:35 PM   #23 
  - Thank you.  JackRiddler   Jul-09-09 07:36 PM   #24 
  - I'm not convinced the batshit insane loon from the Green Party isn't an anti-semitic bigot  WeDidIt   Jul-09-09 07:38 PM   #25 
  - "anti-semitic bigot"...piss off..nt  and-justice-for-all   Jul-09-09 07:41 PM   #31 
  - Your sig...  MellowDem   Jul-09-09 09:03 PM   #81 
  - It's More Dramatic When You Capitalize The First Letter In Each Word Of A Flamebait Post Like That  omega minimo   Jul-09-09 07:57 PM   #44 
  - I do that  WeDidIt   Jul-09-09 09:08 PM   #85 
  - +1  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-09 10:44 PM   #125 
  - Oops! There we go with the tell-tale  timtom   Jul-10-09 06:15 AM   #156 
     - Whats wrong with saying "batshit insane loon"? n/t  Kurska   Jul-10-09 06:28 AM   #158 
        - It demonstrates shallowness and stupidity.  timtom   Jul-10-09 09:23 AM   #166 
  - Cynthia got up and did something, what did you do?  and-justice-for-all   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #28 
  - I hope this is directed at someone else  Time for change   Jul-10-09 09:19 AM   #165 
  - Correction.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #29 
  - Ok -- It is possible that derogatory comments against Israel can be made with anti-Semitic intention  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:58 PM   #46 
     - Which is what I said, and you did not.  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 08:00 PM   #47 
        - Certainly Israel has been deserving  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:37 PM   #119 
           - You have a point?  Behind the Aegis   Jul-09-09 10:41 PM   #123 
           - Thank you..  and-justice-for-all   Jul-10-09 03:37 PM   #197 
  - K&R  FLAprogressive   Jul-09-09 07:40 PM   #30 
  - Lets not forget she also abandoned the Democratic Party  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 07:45 PM   #35 
  - She didn't abandon it. She got voted out of office  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:51 PM   #40 
  - And then went over to the Greens  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 10:00 PM   #107 
  - +1, she had no alternative. nt  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:38 PM   #121 
  - Lets not forget that TPTB in the Democratic party abandoned her.  baldguy   Jul-09-09 07:54 PM   #41 
     - True, and Georgia is all electronic voting state...with much controversy..  KoKo   Jul-09-09 08:20 PM   #57 
     - See post #62  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-09-09 10:00 PM   #106 
  - You mentioned Katrina...  SidDithers   Jul-09-09 07:48 PM   #37 
  - That claim about her is bogus  Time for change   Jul-09-09 07:54 PM   #42 
     - Where you admit you haven't seen the video? That discussion?  cali   Jul-09-09 08:14 PM   #56 
     - Did you read the Green Party response to the allegations against McKinney?  Time for change   Jul-09-09 08:50 PM   #72 
        - She claimed that she had "verification" from "insiders" at the Red Cross that the allegations  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:09 PM   #87 
        - Where is the video?  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:41 PM   #99 
        - See the link Sid Dithers left for you in post #37. It's been there for hours.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:48 PM   #102 
           - It sounds like she's saying that she has NO verification  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:57 PM   #104 
              - "I have uh verification from insiders uh who who wish to remain anonymous at the red cross"  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 11:03 PM   #134 
              - Tell me her words don't sound a lot more like NO than uh  Time for change   Jul-10-09 06:11 AM   #155 
              - Sounds to me like she says she has verification from multiple sources...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:46 AM   #161 
        - I wouldn't put it past Bush & Co....  asksam   Jul-10-09 11:43 AM   #173 
        - "McKinney was investigating it"...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:52 AM   #162 
           - She never even claimed it was true. She said that she was told that.  Time for change   Jul-10-09 10:01 AM   #167 
              - Your blind defense of her is laughable...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 11:48 AM   #174 
                 - Did you read the report that she wrote on the subject?  Time for change   Jul-10-09 12:42 PM   #179 
                    - You're defending the indefensible...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 02:05 PM   #182 
                       - In other words, no, you didn't read it and you don't care what it says  Time for change   Jul-10-09 02:57 PM   #185 
                          - In other words, she didn't mention the 5000 people shot in the head...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:02 PM   #186 
                             - She did NOT claim that 5000 people were shot in the head.  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:11 PM   #188 
                                - She claimed she was told of the incident...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:21 PM   #190 
                                   - Oh she did not say she knew it was true. That's pure crap  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:34 PM   #194 
                                      - Have you go so much pride invested in McKinney...  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 03:42 PM   #198 
     - Bogus My Ass. I've transcribed VERBATIM, just for YOU, her words during the press conference  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 08:42 PM   #70 
        - I"m so sick of people making shit up- like that McKinney didn't say something  cali   Jul-09-09 08:45 PM   #71 
           - I didn't claim that she didn't say it.  Time for change   Jul-09-09 08:52 PM   #73 
           - that's just ridiculous. utterly silly.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:57 PM   #77 
              - The claim was bogus  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:35 PM   #98 
                 - It's bigoted, not bigotted and I suggest you read Lithos' post in this thread  cali   Jul-10-09 05:09 AM   #152 
                    - Your arguing that I claimed she didn't say it is pathetic  Time for change   Jul-10-09 07:43 AM   #160 
           - I totally agree cali, but there are her words, transcribed verbatim from her press conference.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:06 PM   #84 
              - Good job on the transcript...nt  SidDithers   Jul-10-09 07:54 AM   #163 
  - K/R ya damn Leftist  omega minimo   Jul-09-09 07:55 PM   #43 
  - Cynthia McKinney for the Nobel Peace Prize.  Bushknew   Jul-09-09 07:57 PM   #45 
  - +1. She's a wonderful and courageous lady. n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 09:59 PM   #105 
  - I have to think less of anyone who refers to McKinney as "batshit insane"  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 08:04 PM   #50 
  - "batshit" seems to be very popular.  glitch   Jul-09-09 08:14 PM   #55 
  - I have to think less of anyone who defends her doing an interview on one of the  cali   Jul-09-09 08:54 PM   #74 
  - OK, you're entitled to your opinion  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 08:56 PM   #76 
  - And I have to think less of anyone who uses the same old intellectually lazy method of  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-09-09 09:04 PM   #82 
  - I really don't care what you think of me  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-09-09 09:30 PM   #95 
  - +1  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:21 PM   #94 
  - Agree 100%! Two hundred or so McKinneys in the federal government would fix a lot of things. n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:02 PM   #109 
  - Excellent post , Time for a change...  Desertrose   Jul-09-09 08:12 PM   #54 
  - K&R  Vidar   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #58 
  - It takes a Villiage  HughMoran   Jul-09-09 08:22 PM   #60 
  - The vilification began shortly after she dared to question Bush  ecstatic   Jul-09-09 08:23 PM   #61 
  - baloney.  cali   Jul-09-09 08:24 PM   #63 
     - forgot the n/t  G_j   Jul-09-09 09:00 PM   #79 
  - Hi. I live in her district. She was ousted by our Very Liberal Local Democratic Party.  onehandle   Jul-09-09 08:23 PM   #62 
  - What was it that she said or did  Time for change   Jul-09-09 09:43 PM   #100 
  - Thank you so much for your post. nt  jasi2006   Jul-09-09 08:36 PM   #69 
  - Please  Boddingham   Jul-09-09 09:09 PM   #86 
  - America didn't supply Israel with nuclear Technology you twit, france did, learn the history, THEN  Kurska   Jul-10-09 06:04 AM   #154 
  - Kicked, rec'd & bookmarked  varelse   Jul-09-09 09:11 PM   #88 
  - Wish I could recommend a hundred times  me b zola   Jul-09-09 09:15 PM   #92 
  - Thank you for so clearly and thoroughly summarizing the facts about that smear.  ConsAreLiars   Jul-09-09 09:31 PM   #96 
  - saved for later n/t  snake in the grass   Jul-09-09 09:33 PM   #97 
  - Cynthia McKinney doesn't need help being villified  northzax   Jul-09-09 09:44 PM   #101 
  - I am so glad you endorse that there was indeed a grassy knoll shooter! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:04 PM   #110 
  - Well, there's this scuffle with the law in DC. Appears that rules for  Obamanaut   Jul-09-09 09:49 PM   #103 
  - It reminds me of the Dean Scream  Time for change   Jul-09-09 10:01 PM   #108 
     - ... and for eight loonnnggg years the MSM ignored Bush's stupefying stupidity! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:07 PM   #111 
     - Indeed. And the stats for the "Dean Scream" are sobering  RufusTFirefly   Jul-09-09 10:40 PM   #122 
     - I don't recall ever seeing Bush say, "Is our children learning." Go figure! n/t  ControlledDemolition   Jul-09-09 10:52 PM   #128 
     - And it is this point that we should  Enthusiast   Jul-09-09 10:48 PM   #126 
  - Good solid case and Excellent writing. Bravo! and Thank You! nt  patrice   Jul-09-09 10:15 PM   #112 
  - Anyone who claimed that Al Gore had a "low negro tolerance level" deserves vilification  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-09-09 10:24 PM   #114 
  - Here  Boddingham   Jul-09-09 11:02 PM   #133 
  - Fantastic post. Thank you. K&R -nt  crickets   Jul-09-09 10:57 PM   #131 
  - McKinney is a joke and im glad she left the party.  NYC Democrat   Jul-09-09 11:08 PM   #135 
  - Yes, yes, yes, Cynthia McKinney is not a bigot  Lithos   Jul-09-09 11:32 PM   #136 
  - Well said.  proteus_lives   Jul-10-09 12:13 AM   #139 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-09 01:04 AM   #145 
  - Thanks for putting it so clearly.  cali   Jul-10-09 05:02 AM   #149 
  - This reminds me of the smearing of Obama with his association with Bill Ayers and Jeramiah Wright  Time for change   Jul-10-09 06:25 AM   #157 
  - Cynthia McKinney  Lithos   Jul-10-09 10:07 AM   #168 
     - You make a lot of claims, but show nothing concrete  Time for change   Jul-10-09 11:29 AM   #171 
     - Guilt by association, apparently.  Ignis   Jul-10-09 12:05 PM   #176 
        - That's exactly right  Time for change   Jul-10-09 12:43 PM   #180 
        - What if we held Obama to the same twisted standards?  Ignis   Jul-10-09 03:07 PM   #187 
           - Touch  Bushknew   Jul-10-09 03:27 PM   #192 
        - silence is the voice of c omplicity. and Cynthia says that herself.  cali   Jul-10-09 05:15 PM   #203 
     - This isn't about McKinney's dad or her security detail.  EOTE   Jul-10-09 12:30 PM   #177 
        - thank you  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 03:23 PM   #191 
  - Ok, Jewish people have no influence on US affairs or in the world at all & people  Bushknew   Jul-10-09 10:47 AM   #170 
  - Well done article. Thank you  arikara   Jul-09-09 11:37 PM   #137 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-09-09 11:45 PM   #138 
  - Thanks, TforC, for helping set the record straight....  mojowork_n   Jul-10-09 12:21 AM   #140 
  - as with the majority of politicians  ibegurpard   Jul-10-09 12:24 AM   #141 
  - K&R, highly recommended....  AntiFascist   Jul-10-09 12:43 AM   #142 
  - I am not a fan of Cynthia McKinney but I am a fan of Cynthia McKinney's  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 12:57 AM   #143 
  - A very old adage says that if you stab the King, you better kill him.  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 01:23 AM   #146 
  - I am very hesitant to criticize people for "losing"  Time for change   Jul-10-09 04:27 PM   #200 
     - Agree that there is nobility in running on principles, even against  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 09:55 PM   #204 
  - Auto K&R  Greyhound   Jul-10-09 04:58 AM   #148 
  - An excellent and...  snake in the grass   Jul-10-09 05:06 AM   #151 
  - Why was this pulled from the Greatest page?  cali   Jul-10-09 05:14 AM   #153 
  - good question  G_j   Jul-10-09 06:45 AM   #159 
  - I'd like to know this too.  EOTE   Jul-10-09 12:34 PM   #178 
  - thank you  ensho   Jul-10-09 10:34 AM   #169 
  - I do like Cynthia McKinney for many things, but I do have questions at times on this subject...  cascadiance   Jul-10-09 11:41 AM   #172 
  - thank you time for change  barbtries   Jul-10-09 11:55 AM   #175 
  - Cynthia is a truth-teller.  Karenina   Jul-10-09 01:55 PM   #181 
  - that's it  G_j   Jul-10-09 02:33 PM   #183 
  - OMG, you sound like Cynthia McKinney!  Time for change   Jul-10-09 04:57 PM   #201 
     - BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Karenina   Jul-10-09 05:07 PM   #202 
  - kicking an outstanding post  me b zola   Jul-10-09 02:52 PM   #184 
  - great post  fascisthunter   Jul-10-09 03:20 PM   #189 
  - "McKinney helped expose the horrific conditions of Katrina evacuees"  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-09 03:30 PM   #193 
  - Read her report  Time for change   Jul-10-09 03:36 PM   #195 
     - Do you deny that she made that claim? nt  Occam Bandage   Jul-10-09 03:37 PM   #196 
  - Among the third-party candidates running in 2008, McKinney finished  saltpoint   Jul-10-09 03:47 PM   #199 

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