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25. Will "our own system" keep us alive ....Updated at 5:54 AM
Our current system isn't up to it. My husband's mother has a rare form of cancer that is wrapping around her esophagus and metastasizing throughout her lungs, neck and eventually her brain. She has difficulty swallowing and is in constant pain. She has to measure her life expectancy in days, weeks and months. She can't count on more time than that.

What is her HMO doing? Not much. They said surgery to remove the tumor when it was initially discovered months ago was not possible. They said they could not use radiation. Instead they gave her an old chemotherapy drug that is not effective on the type of cancer she has, because they have to "cut costs". (Read increase profits.) The chemo drug was toxic to her. She nearly died from taking it. Her blood values dropped across the board and it took two weeks in the hospital to get her white count up to the point where she had an immune system. Now the HMO is putting off any more treatment for her at all. She is desperate. She is dying and she knows it.

I just want to ask while you are expressing concerns about "our own system," if you have ever sat across the table from a loved one and held her hand while she told you, "I'm afraid to die. Please don't let me die alone." There is nothing like it except for watching your husband almost die because he has a rare illness and his insurance company does not want to pay for a full recovery. In that case I was lucky because the non profit hospital intervened and helped him. Now, right off his own illness he is watching his mother die because her for profit HMO decided at some point that her life was not worth saving. This is our own system. We need something much better. I don't care who we emulate. I want people like my mother in law to have a chance.

As I sat and tried to comfort her, seeing all the while how emaciated she is, covered with bruises which appear spontaneously and with no hair from her botched chemo, I realized that aside from love and my promises that she will not die alone I don't have anything else to offer that will help her live. How did we get here? We are in a place where corporate entities are deciding who is fit to live and die based on their profit margins. It is time for something new and different, and really, what does it matter where it comes from if it gets us out of the mare's nest that greed stuck us into?
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  This Is What Happens When You Get Cancer in America / And in France Better Believe It  Jul-09-09 02:35 PM   #0 
   France =/= America  anonymous171   Jul-09-09 02:37 PM   #1 
   "We need to create our own system that specifically tailors to Americans' needs."  KansDem   Jul-09-09 02:41 PM   #3 
   Does that mean letting the Insurance company  Hutzpa   Jul-10-09 11:48 AM   #83 
   Why can we not emulate a system that works?  rfranklin   Jul-09-09 02:41 PM   #5 
   I think he should have been a little more descriptive, but I still get it a bit.  mamaleah   Jul-10-09 05:13 AM   #50 
      Then that's an immigration issue not a health care issue.  Javaman   Jul-10-09 10:00 AM   #67 
      What has any of that has to do with  Hutzpa   Jul-10-09 11:49 AM   #84 
         If you want to emulate  mamaleah   Jul-10-09 12:47 PM   #88 
            Thats like saying Mexicans are  Hutzpa   Jul-10-09 01:09 PM   #90 
               I think it has as much to do with having a decent system as a more progressive system of taxation  mamaleah   Jul-10-09 01:13 PM   #92 
   Americans do not have the market cornered on intelligence  Horse with no Name   Jul-09-09 03:06 PM   #10 
   Yes! We pay more than France. We deserve a system that delivers BETTER service than this! n/t  FormerDittoHead   Jul-09-09 03:16 PM   #12 
   Do the French get sick differently than Americans?  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-09-09 03:22 PM   #14 
   It is possible that sickness in France is different because  abumbyanyothername   Jul-09-09 07:27 PM   #32 
   Some may read you as sarcastic. However there's (inadvertant?) truth  troubledamerican   Jul-09-09 11:17 PM   #40 
   That was the point.  abumbyanyothername   Jul-10-09 01:20 AM   #41 
   Read you loud and clear. We need a system comparable to France, but France also eats healthier  DesertDiamond   Jul-10-09 09:25 AM   #63 
   They eat plenty of fat but  Enthusiast   Jul-10-09 02:34 PM   #99 
   Sorry, I'm braced for nothing but snark on DU, I sometimes misread.  troubledamerican   Jul-10-09 10:48 AM   #73 
   US chicken is surreal  Fedja   Jul-10-09 03:55 AM   #45 
   And everything is so damn sweet!  Prophet 451   Jul-10-09 06:20 AM   #53 
   Fascinating. Thanks.  troubledamerican   Jul-10-09 10:51 AM   #75 
   Chocolate...even Lindt here is flavored with articifical garbage  AllyCat   Jul-10-09 12:15 PM   #86 
   Yo are right, the US Processors refused to use Potable Water  Grinchie   Jul-10-09 06:43 AM   #55 
      OK, now you've scared me  troubledamerican   Jul-10-09 10:51 AM   #74 
         My Spelling was off, it is Pleomorphism  Grinchie   Jul-10-09 01:09 PM   #91 
   Hahaha!! I shouldn't be laughing, but that is so true.  AllyCat   Jul-10-09 12:12 PM   #85 
   See this article  lindisfarne   Jul-09-09 09:51 PM   #38 
   Cancer is different in France?  tinrobot   Jul-09-09 03:54 PM   #19 
   Will "our own system" keep us alive ....  gleaner   Jul-09-09 04:51 PM   #25 
   I am American by birth  reggie the dog   Jul-09-09 06:30 PM   #28 
   Really?  Fedja   Jul-10-09 03:52 AM   #44 
   Help me out here.  snake in the grass   Jul-10-09 04:32 AM   #48 
   You nailed it for me. I tried just last week to get a doctor's appointment  snappyturtle   Jul-10-09 11:45 AM   #82 
      It burns me up...  snake in the grass   Jul-10-09 01:31 PM   #93 
         I'm glad you're speaking out. Wish you were on national teevee.  snappyturtle   Jul-10-09 10:27 PM   #104 
   What needs do we have that the French do not?  TommyO   Jul-10-09 08:20 AM   #61 
   yeah, because, you know, those French people get sick differently from us...  Javaman   Jul-10-09 09:54 AM   #66 
   That's what we have now...  warren pease   Jul-10-09 11:00 AM   #77 
   ?  tavalon   Jul-10-09 11:25 AM   #79 
   We could emulate it to a T  Enthusiast   Jul-10-09 02:30 PM   #97 
   Is one of America's needs to keep a bloated insurance industry alive on our blood?  JVS   Jul-10-09 02:33 PM   #98 
   I was told this by someone who worked in the insurance industry  Horse with no Name   Jul-09-09 02:40 PM   #2 
   Reminds me of GEICO  Grinchie   Jul-10-09 07:01 AM   #57 
   sure - but what about the profits? Who made the profits?  DrDan   Jul-09-09 02:41 PM   #4 
   I had a cardiac scare 5 years ago, and my wife had cancer 8 years ago  DFW   Jul-09-09 02:56 PM   #6 
   I'm curious about the higher taxes - my brother is in Germany  BR_Parkway   Jul-09-09 03:25 PM   #15 
   All those "other" taxes are here too, except for state income  DFW   Jul-09-09 06:00 PM   #27 
   "German taxes are pretty high"  Doremus   Jul-09-09 06:42 PM   #29 
      If my paycheck were taxed in Germany:  DFW   Jul-10-09 10:16 AM   #69 
         if you would have paid 60% of your gross income  lakeguy   Jul-10-09 10:33 AM   #72 
            It doesn't take a fortune to reach that level in Germany  DFW   Jul-10-09 01:54 PM   #95 
   Questionable anecdote at best  sailor65   Jul-09-09 02:57 PM   #7 
   Questionable anecdote at best  supernova   Jul-09-09 03:18 PM   #13 
   Read the original story  tinrobot   Jul-09-09 03:59 PM   #20 
   I think that basic healthcare  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-09-09 02:58 PM   #8 
   +1  LuvNewcastle   Jul-09-09 03:11 PM   #11 
   +1 Although part of the bargain ought to be  abumbyanyothername   Jul-09-09 07:39 PM   #33 
   They always ask how we're going to pay for it.  lob1   Jul-09-09 03:02 PM   #9 
   Exactly - they always seem to posit that the expenses of the system will  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-09-09 03:28 PM   #16 
      .............congressional bribes to maintain the status quo  destes   Jul-10-09 04:18 AM   #47 
      And no $1.5 million a DAY to bribe our congressmen  mudplanet   Jul-10-09 10:28 AM   #71 
   I am disabled and have medicare + United Healthcare/AARP Secure Horizons coverage...  Gogi   Jul-09-09 03:30 PM   #17 
   Not to be nosy, just curious, my husband is nearing retirement  Holly_Hobby   Jul-09-09 04:06 PM   #21 
      If you're on Medicare...  Gogi   Jul-09-09 04:34 PM   #23 
         Thank you! n/t  Holly_Hobby   Jul-09-09 08:54 PM   #36 
   Here's how it worked for my BIL who worked for the "happiest place on the earth"  csziggy   Jul-09-09 03:47 PM   #18 
   I wish I could recommend.  juno jones   Jul-09-09 07:05 PM   #30 
   This is so wrong.............  bluethruandthru   Jul-09-09 09:59 PM   #39 
   I'm sorry to hear this but that is very typical of Disney, one of the worst places to work.  Greyhound   Jul-10-09 05:50 AM   #51 
   Had two friends work in their animation dept. They called their bosses:  Javaman   Jul-10-09 10:16 AM   #68 
   My very simple reason for national health care as always been...  Javaman   Jul-10-09 10:20 AM   #70 
   Freedom Fries indeed.......  N.Y. to Paris   Jul-09-09 04:10 PM   #22 
   France is a civilized country. Regrettably, the US is not.  Vidar   Jul-09-09 04:49 PM   #24 
   France has the best health care in the world as rated by the WHO, it's also not "single payer"  Hippo_Tron   Jul-09-09 04:52 PM   #26 
   Actually, the government pays most of the expenditures  eridani   Jul-10-09 03:33 AM   #43 
   True, but it is still not technically "single-payer"  Hippo_Tron   Jul-10-09 02:11 PM   #96 
      So what? All countries with single payer, or even socialized medicine, have private insurance  eridani   Jul-10-09 05:51 PM   #103 
   'Single payer' is a mantra a lot of people parrot without really understanding, it seems to me.  Spider Jerusalem   Jul-10-09 05:01 AM   #49 
   And yet it is also not a for-profit system. n/t  Greyhound   Jul-10-09 05:51 AM   #52 
   Yes, but we don't have waiting lists!  Crunchy Frog   Jul-09-09 07:22 PM   #31 
   and this is what happens when you get cancer in Canada  iverglas   Jul-09-09 08:18 PM   #34 
   That's what you can get when all your tax dollars aren't spent....  theHandpuppet   Jul-09-09 08:20 PM   #35 
   You said it! nt  Enthusiast   Jul-10-09 02:46 PM   #100 
   I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.  mwooldri   Jul-09-09 09:43 PM   #37 
   K & R  Quantess   Jul-10-09 01:57 AM   #42 
   Viva la Difference!  yoyossarian   Jul-10-09 04:16 AM   #46 
   It's much the same here  Prophet 451   Jul-10-09 06:25 AM   #54 
   i don't live in America anymore ... but is it really this bad?  InfiniteThoughts   Jul-10-09 06:45 AM   #56 
   US politicians are owned by the insurance industry. They don't want to bite the hand that feeds them  valerief   Jul-10-09 09:28 AM   #64 
   Campaign against the current system?  Enthusiast   Jul-10-09 02:49 PM   #101 
   Jeez. An MRI in the same day?!?  a la izquierda   Jul-10-09 07:47 AM   #58 
   Free Health Care for We The People is in our Constitution.  fasttense   Jul-10-09 07:48 AM   #59 
   same same Australia, and Canada, Germany, Italy, Finland, Sweden, New Zealand  Swagman   Jul-10-09 08:19 AM   #60 
   true story: colon cancer and high tech...  scentopine   Jul-10-09 09:21 AM   #62 
   Also of note, the stipend was "just under minimum" wage, but in France that means a LIVING wage,  DesertDiamond   Jul-10-09 09:28 AM   #65 
   Single Payer Rally in DC July 30th  maryf   Jul-10-09 10:58 AM   #76 
   I predict a mass exodus from this country in the  Fire1   Jul-10-09 11:20 AM   #78 
   The French system is very good but is also facing a strain as  kegler14   Jul-10-09 11:38 AM   #80 
   Cancer treatment in the U.S. can be terrific, IF...  Tracer   Jul-10-09 11:44 AM   #81 
   But France isn't free! It's run by a bunch of Socialists!  Wapsie B   Jul-10-09 12:16 PM   #87 
   Remember in Sicko, when Michael Moore was in France?  redqueen   Jul-10-09 12:50 PM   #89 
   Great Video alongside the article also.  Juan_de_la_Dem   Jul-10-09 01:42 PM   #94 
   kick  azmouse   Jul-10-09 05:18 PM   #102 
 

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