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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-05-09 11:30 AM
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12. If a transformer fails on a windfarm. its now called a tornado

If a transformer fails on a geothermal plant, its a called a volcano event.

If a transformer fails on a solar farm, its called a super nova.

Clearly solar energy is the most dangerous of all.
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  -Germany has a nuke event ensho  Jul-05-09 10:47 AM   #0 
  - What does a transformer failure have to do with it being a 'nuke plant'?  ThomWV   Jul-05-09 10:50 AM   #1 
  - because they had to turn off the reactor to keep it from melting down  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 10:51 AM   #2 
     - lol  Statistical   Jul-05-09 10:56 AM   #3 
     - No, she's right, a transformer failure can lead to a nuclear meltdown.  bananas   Jul-09-09 08:32 AM   #158 
     - Vattenfall sacks head of defective nuclear plant - this was a serious fuck-up  bananas   Jul-09-09 08:45 AM   #159 
        - Fired for problems unrelated to the reactor...  SidDithers   Jul-09-09 09:04 AM   #162 
           - The transformer is a critical component of safe reactor operation.  bananas   Jul-09-09 09:19 AM   #166 
              - I'd be hugely surprised if the power supply servicing the reactor...  SidDithers   Jul-09-09 11:33 AM   #170 
              - Not only is it independent it is triple redundant.  Statistical   Jul-09-09 11:46 AM   #172 
                 - The transformer took out (a) and (c), and the guy was fired for not keeping the plant up to spec,  bananas   Jul-09-09 03:23 PM   #173 
              - And that is why reactors have both onsite backup generators and offsite backup generators.  Statistical   Jul-09-09 11:42 AM   #171 
                 - Here's what a new third-generation chinese nuclear plant looks like...  bananas   Jul-09-09 03:34 PM   #174 
                    - Thanks for that LOL  Liberation Angel   Jul-09-09 07:23 PM   #175 
     - Proving once again how safe it is.  nekkid   Jul-05-09 10:57 AM   #4 
     - LOL  JVS   Jul-05-09 10:58 AM   #6 
     - Don't they teach you how transformers work...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 11:02 AM   #7 
     - Actually I do know what they do and how they do it  ThomWV   Jul-05-09 11:06 AM   #8 
     - From here it looks like he was posting to somebody else.  nekkid   Jul-05-09 11:09 AM   #9 
     - I agree with you Thom...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 11:25 AM   #10 
        - Sorry, please accept my apology  ThomWV   Jul-05-09 01:54 PM   #54 
           - No apologies necessary...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 04:24 PM   #70 
           - Are there breakthroughs on a form of safer disposal of radioactive waste? nt  jbnow   Jul-07-09 05:10 AM   #132 
              - not that I know of but  Liberation Angel   Jul-09-09 07:26 PM   #176 
     - More than meets the eye, robots in disguise  AngryAmish   Jul-05-09 01:12 PM   #25 
     - they're trucks that turn into robots  rucky   Jul-06-09 12:00 AM   #82 
     - Huh?. I love how some people know nothing about nuclear power.  NutmegYankee   Jul-05-09 11:45 AM   #14 
     - or the dangers  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:00 PM   #18 
        - Not really NRC releases detailed events on incidents  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 01:21 PM   #35 
        - like I trust the nrc  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 02:05 PM   #57 
        - "If the transformer which went down was pumping cooling water"  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:29 PM   #43 
        - Now don't go getting all factsy, and sciencey...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 01:32 PM   #44 
           - LOL!  NutmegYankee   Jul-05-09 05:43 PM   #74 
        - Thanks for making my case.  NutmegYankee   Jul-05-09 05:33 PM   #72 
        - Oh, and they have generators for the internal equipment.  NutmegYankee   Jul-05-09 05:50 PM   #77 
           - which the fires and explosions in the plants could have knocked out  Liberation Angel   Jul-07-09 12:26 AM   #121 
              - LOL!  NutmegYankee   Jul-07-09 12:44 AM   #122 
              - A reactor is designed to be nearly impossible to have a "critical event"...  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 01:46 AM   #124 
                 - Yeah, because human error is impossible  Liberation Angel   Jul-09-09 07:28 PM   #177 
     - So is a brick wall is a vehicle event  spoony   Jul-05-09 05:35 PM   #73 
     - Another member joins the "I don't know anything about nuclear reactors but I have an opinion" club  NeedleCast   Jul-06-09 10:49 AM   #86 
     - Are you a founder?  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 09:55 PM   #114 
     - WTF? no.They shut it down to stop power from flowing into a damaged system/grid.  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 01:43 AM   #123 
     - Umm.. no  Recursion   Jul-08-09 12:49 PM   #141 
  - Another mislabled nuke event...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 10:57 AM   #5 
  - If a transformer fails on a windfarm. its now called a tornado  yodoobo   Jul-05-09 11:30 AM   #12 
  - ROFL...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 11:39 AM   #13 
  - DUzy.  kenny blankenship   Jul-05-09 01:53 PM   #53 
  - Second. n/t  Subdivisions   Jul-05-09 03:14 PM   #66 
     - Thirded!  comrade snarky   Jul-05-09 04:12 PM   #67 
        - Fourth-ded. LOLZ  Maru Kitteh   Jul-05-09 06:04 PM   #78 
           - FIFTH'd  slackmaster   Jul-06-09 03:17 PM   #103 
              - A transformer failure can lead to a nuclear meltdown.  bananas   Jul-09-09 08:31 AM   #157 
  - Haha, Classic. THis should sweep the DUzy awards.  NeedleCast   Jul-06-09 10:53 AM   #87 
  - The real DUzy is that some DU members think these reactors can't melt down.  bananas   Jul-09-09 09:11 AM   #163 
  - if a transformer fails at the LHC?  Occulus   Jul-08-09 03:25 PM   #144 
  - Tell that to Merkel, she's pissed at these nuke operators  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 09:58 PM   #115 
  - transformers are not nuclear devices  yodoobo   Jul-05-09 11:27 AM   #11 
  - Be very scared  Duckhunter935   Jul-05-09 12:01 PM   #15 
  - Time to wrap the house in plastic. Its next to my Y2K survival guide  miyazaki   Jul-05-09 12:58 PM   #17 
  - If its not related to the reactor then why did they shut it down?  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 12:55 PM   #16 
  - No they shut it down the same reason your electrician shuts off the power  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:01 PM   #19 
     - The damage was INSIDE the power plant  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:08 PM   #22 
     - The NRC releases information on all events like the ntsb does for air accidents.  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 01:15 PM   #29 
     - Pavulon, I'm neutral until I find out more about what happened in this German plant,  bertman   Jul-07-09 01:46 AM   #125 
     - Why would you waste nuclear fuel by running reactor when power can't be used?  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:19 PM   #33 
        - Actually, the plant had been shut down for years due to fire  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:44 PM   #49 
           - Likely new transformer defective....  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:48 PM   #51 
              - Meltdown is only one of my concerns,radioactive emissions are the problem  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 02:02 PM   #55 
                 - Any plant that routinely leaks radioactive material should be shut down.  Statistical   Jul-05-09 02:26 PM   #59 
                 - Agreed _ But all nuke plants leak or emit radiation.  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 11:39 PM   #80 
                    - And what are those radiation levels?  PVnRT   Jul-06-09 03:19 PM   #105 
                    - There are NO SAFE LIMITS for exposure to these radioisotopes  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 12:29 AM   #136 
                       - I hope you don't live in a brick house  Recursion   Jul-08-09 12:53 PM   #142 
                          - Brick houses don't emit radioiodine and strontium 90, both killers  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 03:19 PM   #143 
                             - Strontium 90 isn't radiation  Recursion   Jul-08-09 05:59 PM   #146 
                                - Radioactive isotopes emit radiation  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 08:50 PM   #149 
                                   - But neither iodine nor strontium are radiation  Recursion   Jul-08-09 09:06 PM   #154 
                                      - Strontium 90 and radio-iodine are what is leaked and they are radioactive killers  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 11:22 PM   #155 
                    - Oooga Boooga You do realize the Earth emits radiation right?  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 01:57 AM   #126 
                       - Ummm. Huh?  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 12:41 AM   #137 
                 - So is modern aviation..  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 02:29 PM   #60 
                 - That guy is wrong, US reactors can melt down, even the new "Gen 3" ones.  bananas   Jul-06-09 10:46 AM   #84 
     - "They" did not shut it down. It shut down itself.  Liberation Angel   Jul-07-09 12:24 AM   #120 
        - So what you are saying is that the safety systems worked...  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 01:59 AM   #127 
           - I posted the links, but the "safety system" only went so far  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 08:57 PM   #151 
  - I see why people are afraid to post in these threads  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:01 PM   #20 
  - When you post ridiculous assertions...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 01:04 PM   #21 
  - Calling me names doesn't change the fact that nukes are dangerous  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:10 PM   #23 
     - Cars and swimming pools kill, so do tired medical students  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 01:13 PM   #26 
     - But generally they don't mutate my children's genes  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:18 PM   #32 
     - Sure they do, petroleum is a carcinogen.  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 01:23 PM   #37 
     - BACK AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER!! THERE ARE TRANSFORMERS INSIDE IT!! n/t  greguganus   Jul-05-09 01:23 PM   #38 
     - An inanimate object has no intelligence. So it cannot have "intentions"...  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 02:09 AM   #128 
     - swimming pools & cars don't render entire neighborhoods unfit to live in after an accident.  KittyWampus   Jul-05-09 01:42 PM   #47 
        - Neither do western nuclear reactors (PWR). n/t  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:44 PM   #50 
           - Yes they do.  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 03:26 PM   #106 
              - So where are the unihabitable neighborhood? n/t  Statistical   Jul-06-09 04:35 PM   #109 
                 - My hometown and birthplace, but like love canal was, its not evacuated yet  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 09:52 PM   #113 
                    - Love Canal was a chemical disaster. Nice try though.  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 02:11 AM   #129 
                    - Name the town or you have nothing. n/t  Realityhack   Jul-07-09 06:13 AM   #133 
                       - Yeah right. I will say only this  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 12:51 AM   #138 
     - So you incorrectly keep posting but that doesn't make it true.  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:13 PM   #27 
     - i would add  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:16 PM   #31 
     - Dihydrogen monoxide is a dangerous chemical, also  AngryAmish   Jul-05-09 01:14 PM   #28 
     - LOL n/t  Realityhack   Jul-08-09 12:13 PM   #140 
     - Don't go outside or live above ground!  NutmegYankee   Jul-05-09 05:48 PM   #75 
        - Nuke plants add more than 100 millerems increasing our exposure by an added 1/3 of background  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 08:59 PM   #152 
  - Being opposed is one thing but beindownright stupid and calling a blown transformer a NUCLEAR EVENT  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:11 PM   #24 
  - Criticize the organization but at least argue the facts, not speculation  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:16 PM   #30 
  - Keep backtracking...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 01:20 PM   #34 
  - I am doing my research - you do yours - the plant shut down automatically  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:34 PM   #45 
     - Incorrect  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 02:35 PM   #62 
     - No, she's correct, most shut-down incidents are to reduce the risk of melt down  bananas   Jul-06-09 11:23 AM   #93 
        - Of course that assumes the only bad scenario would be melt down.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 11:43 AM   #97 
     - There are many reasons that power plants, nuclear, or other shut down automatically  TommyO   Jul-05-09 04:13 PM   #68 
  - PWR are NEVER in danger of melting down. Never have and never will.  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:38 PM   #46 
     - That's incorrect, existing US reactors can melt down, as can the new "Gen 3" reactors.  bananas   Jul-06-09 10:28 AM   #83 
        - PWR have a negative void coefficient.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 10:57 AM   #88 
           - TMI was a PWR and had a partial meltdown  bananas   Jul-06-09 11:11 AM   #92 
           - TMI didn't melt down despite the hysteria.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 11:27 AM   #95 
              - TMI was a PWR and it did melt down.  bananas   Jul-06-09 11:44 AM   #98 
                 - The fuel melted it didn't melt through anything.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 11:53 AM   #99 
                    - Yes.  bananas   Jul-06-09 12:10 PM   #100 
                       - It melted down though  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 09:37 PM   #110 
                          - Chernobyl happened because humans repeatedly shutdown and ignored safety systems.  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 02:20 AM   #130 
                             - Also even despite the lack of maintenance, safety equipment turned off, and poor training...  Statistical   Jul-07-09 07:28 AM   #134 
           - US reactors can melt down, and much more seriously than TMI  bananas   Jul-09-09 08:56 AM   #160 
  - Transformers ARE Nuclear!  comrade snarky   Jul-05-09 04:21 PM   #69 
  - As they should be, if they don't have their facts together  anigbrowl   Jul-05-09 05:50 PM   #76 
  - More facts : ALL nuke plants in Germany had to be inspected  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:22 PM   #36 
  - So they checked all the transformers in the other plants. Jeesh. n/t  greguganus   Jul-05-09 01:25 PM   #39 
  - And the results found no problem?  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 01:26 PM   #40 
  - I haven't heard the results except Germany is shutting them all down eventually  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 12:56 AM   #139 
     - And germany will contribute more to global warming.  Statistical   Jul-09-09 09:13 AM   #164 
        - I beg to differ  Liberation Angel   Jul-09-09 10:54 AM   #168 
           - Regardless of the report they will use coal.  Statistical   Jul-09-09 11:29 AM   #169 
  - So they're going to check the transformers...  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 01:28 PM   #41 
  - more facts about this plant  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:28 PM   #42 
  - I changed my mind (on this reactor only)  Statistical   Jul-05-09 01:44 PM   #48 
     - congrats  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 02:03 PM   #56 
        - I have always been against BWR. I wasn't aware Germany still operated any.  Statistical   Jul-05-09 02:21 PM   #58 
           - Like I trust the Chinese government to operate nukes safely  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 02:30 PM   #61 
              - Where do you get the release information?  Pavulon   Jul-05-09 02:36 PM   #63 
                 - That is my big question.  Statistical   Jul-05-09 03:02 PM   #64 
                    - That is the bg lie  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 11:42 PM   #81 
                       - Right radiation levels are set by regulators to be well below the level that would be significant.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 11:01 AM   #89 
                          - Not really since there is no dose too small to harm you  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 03:13 PM   #102 
                             - Since 1977 the NRC has required onsite inspectors to live within 5 miles of the plant.  Statistical   Jul-06-09 03:46 PM   #108 
                                - You just need to read  SidDithers   Jul-06-09 09:59 PM   #116 
                                - yup  Liberation Angel   Jul-07-09 12:14 AM   #118 
                                - I dare you to site a cfr reg for this  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 10:05 PM   #117 
                                   - "MOST POWERFUL Industry in the world"  Realityhack   Jul-08-09 07:06 PM   #147 
                                      - Corporations which produce weapons grade PLUTONIUM  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 08:54 PM   #150 
  - More info on this plant and dangers there and corporate lies; Merkel furious  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 01:52 PM   #52 
  - nuke means nuclear weapon not nuclear power. your title sucks nt  conspirator   Jul-05-09 03:10 PM   #65 
  - It hit-and-run sucked too...nt  SidDithers   Jul-05-09 04:29 PM   #71 
  - Huh? No nukes means no nuclear power plants = where ya been?  Liberation Angel   Jul-05-09 11:37 PM   #79 
     - LA, there's another option being developed right now  Occulus   Jul-08-09 03:41 PM   #145 
        - I honestly have no idea BUT  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 11:25 PM   #156 
  - Is your goal with these threads to drum up anti-nuke sentiment?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-06-09 10:47 AM   #85 
  - eh, a cause is right or wrong regardless of the face on it.  Forkboy   Jul-06-09 11:04 AM   #90 
  - They do serve a purpse  NeedleCast   Jul-06-09 11:04 AM   #91 
     - Yeah, the ones who think a PWR can't melt down.  bananas   Jul-06-09 11:26 AM   #94 
  - China Syndrome?!  zorahopkins   Jul-06-09 11:29 AM   #96 
  - Did you know that large transformers can have THOUSANDS OF COILS????  PVnRT   Jul-06-09 12:21 PM   #101 
  - Sounds more like a nuke NON-event  slackmaster   Jul-06-09 03:17 PM   #104 
  - An event at a nuke plant which caused a shutdown  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 03:29 PM   #107 
  - Just to be clear: Merkel said: "The reactor itself had been affected by a fire...gasmasks"  Liberation Angel   Jul-06-09 09:49 PM   #111 
  - They wore gas masks because of fire...Not radiation suits because of exposure.  armyowalgreens   Jul-07-09 02:34 AM   #131 
     - I never said they wore radiation suits - I said gas masks due to a reactor fire  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 12:18 AM   #135 
  - It's the attack of the 50% educated.... n/t  galileoreloaded   Jul-06-09 09:49 PM   #112 
  - Well, at least 50% of us have been educated about cancer causing and mutating nuke emissions  Liberation Angel   Jul-07-09 12:20 AM   #119 
     - And that reactors can melt down  bananas   Jul-09-09 08:59 AM   #161 
  - You're like the PETA of "nuke events"  NeedleCast   Jul-08-09 07:11 PM   #148 
  - More like People for the Ethical Treatment of Humans  Liberation Angel   Jul-08-09 09:02 PM   #153 
     - And you little anti-nuke kiddes sure like you Straw Men and Ad Hominems  NeedleCast   Jul-09-09 09:19 AM   #165 
        - I have posted the facts and the links and calling people "anti-nuke kiddes" (sic) is ad hominem  Liberation Angel   Jul-09-09 10:49 AM   #167 
  - Nuke power plants require natural water nearby to keep them cool  KakistocracyHater   Jul-09-09 07:34 PM   #178 
  - nuke plants too dangerous  HOLOS   Jul-11-09 12:45 PM   #179 

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