| 41. The thing that really gets me is the hypocrisy.....you know, |
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the people who say nasty things about "those illegal aliens," yet have no trouble at all hiring them to do cheap labor.  |
| -the difference between illegal and legal immigration: there is none |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:30 AM |
#0 |
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Of course they're human. |
BlueStateModerate |
Apr-07-07 03:33 AM |
#1 |
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they aren't criminals, if we stop calling them criminals, did you read the post? |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:36 AM |
#3 |
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They aren't paying taxes, which means they are, by definition, criminals. |
merwin |
Apr-07-07 04:06 AM |
#20 |
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Which taxes are they not paying? |
DIKB |
Apr-07-07 05:50 AM |
#36 |
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ah, but then they have broken the law again by obtaining |
Maine-ah |
Apr-07-07 06:37 AM |
#39 |
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Where does the real guilt lie? |
DIKB |
Apr-07-07 07:20 AM |
#42 |
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The way I see it, they are both guilty and deserve to be punished. |
merwin |
Apr-07-07 05:49 PM |
#156 |
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Please list Jeffy's exact physical address and amount earned last calendar year |
Toots |
Apr-07-07 09:25 AM |
#51 |
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unless he earned more than $5,000 (the standard deduction) |
hfojvt |
Apr-07-07 12:07 PM |
#89 |
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So, because legal citizens also break the law, that means it's ok for |
merwin |
Apr-07-07 05:47 PM |
#154 |
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There is nuance. |
DIKB |
Apr-08-07 04:18 AM |
#177 |
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I'm not saying i don't agree with you. If i was in that position, I would do it. |
merwin |
Apr-08-07 06:30 AM |
#179 |
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I know republicans that do everything within their power not to pay |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-07-07 09:18 AM |
#49 |
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I don't recall saying that they were the only ones who did it. |
merwin |
Apr-07-07 05:50 PM |
#157 |
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No you did not say that... |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-07-07 08:17 PM |
#167 |
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I'd join you on that wager- .....eom |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 08:23 PM |
#168 |
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By your definition |
loyalsister |
Apr-07-07 12:33 PM |
#99 |
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By Definition, |
Possumpoint |
Apr-07-07 06:24 AM |
#37 |
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but if we gave them our permission, post-hoc, ergo, they are not illegal |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:40 PM |
#116 |
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But that is not the way our system works currently, so they are illegal. |
merwin |
Apr-07-07 05:51 PM |
#158 |
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I can if I get busted, and then been pardoned or given amnesty |
aein |
Apr-08-07 01:05 PM |
#180 |
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Criminals? |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 04:13 AM |
#22 |
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Ain't that the truth... |
lefador |
Apr-07-07 04:29 AM |
#23 |
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Here, here.. |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 04:33 AM |
#25 |
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Amen to that. "Give me your tired, your poor...." I can't turn my back on the huddled masses. |
tblue |
Apr-07-07 04:37 AM |
#26 |
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Welcome to DU lefador, nicely said. I grew up in New Mexico and find all this |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Apr-07-07 07:32 AM |
#43 |
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Where did the Mexicans get their land? |
Lasher |
Apr-07-07 08:37 AM |
#46 |
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Substitute Irish for Mexican and you've described my family. Amazing to see DUers |
blondeatlast |
Apr-07-07 12:04 PM |
#86 |
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I'll Fight You! |
Possumpoint |
Apr-07-07 06:53 AM |
#40 |
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They have come to re-extend the borders of Mexico? Is this some kind of |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Apr-07-07 07:35 AM |
#44 |
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Well, life just got easier. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-07-07 10:21 AM |
#59 |
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We're a nation of criminals. |
personman |
Apr-07-07 10:29 AM |
#64 |
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Hello... Do you know what "tautological" means? |
StefanX |
Apr-07-07 08:55 PM |
#169 |
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They aren't criminals. Criminals hurt and kill people. They lie and cheat. |
Cleita |
Apr-08-07 12:16 AM |
#176 |
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They cheat, eh? |
BlueStateModerate |
Apr-08-07 04:34 PM |
#185 |
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How are the immigrants cheating? I have never been cheated on |
Cleita |
Apr-08-07 06:50 PM |
#194 |
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Maybe, perhaps, the problem is with Mexico and other such countries? |
quantessd |
Apr-07-07 03:34 AM |
#2 |
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why are they not "our people" too? |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:37 AM |
#4 |
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Wouldn't that be nice. |
quantessd |
Apr-07-07 03:40 AM |
#5 |
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why not? am I not i suggesting a political question and a political solution? |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:42 AM |
#6 |
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I agree with you, but I think it's unrealistic. |
quantessd |
Apr-07-07 04:03 AM |
#18 |
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"They do it too" ranks up there with "God says so" |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 04:00 AM |
#16 |
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Yes, I agree! |
quantessd |
Apr-07-07 04:11 AM |
#21 |
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I meant "action" broadly. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 04:45 AM |
#27 |
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Be realistic |
BlueStateModerate |
Apr-07-07 03:44 AM |
#7 |
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Of course, the proposition in the abstract is very idealistic. But there is a middleground between t |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:45 AM |
#8 |
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"Racial Equality is a very unrealistic ideal: |
Karenina |
Apr-07-07 05:46 PM |
#153 |
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This is a touchy point...I'll tread carefully |
aein |
Apr-08-07 02:39 PM |
#183 |
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I'm not gonna touch your response |
Karenina |
Apr-08-07 07:05 PM |
#197 |
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Maybe because its the U.S. trade |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 03:58 AM |
#15 |
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You want justice, work for peace. You want nothing but 'legal' immigration, work for justice. |
tblue |
Apr-07-07 04:49 AM |
#28 |
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Some of us are more informed than others |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 04:56 AM |
#29 |
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I'll check those out. Thanks. It's almost like I don't wanna o know what the US has done. |
tblue |
Apr-07-07 05:00 AM |
#30 |
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There are better |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 05:20 AM |
#33 |
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If we stopped subverting their elections, then maybe you |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-07-07 12:11 PM |
#91 |
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the Mexican government is blameless? |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 07:35 PM |
#204 |
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Sneak |
Big Pappa |
Apr-07-07 03:48 AM |
#9 |
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yeah, lets try to do that |
aein |
Apr-07-07 03:52 AM |
#10 |
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Well help me out then |
Big Pappa |
Apr-07-07 03:53 AM |
#11 |
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Well for starters |
SoCalifer |
Apr-07-07 04:30 AM |
#24 |
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Generally speaking, stop implementing a global economic system |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:15 AM |
#32 |
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Best.Post. In. The. Thead. |
Morgana LaFey |
Apr-07-07 02:29 PM |
#106 |
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Excellent post. Thank you for a moment of sanity. |
blondeatlast |
Apr-07-07 04:28 PM |
#120 |
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The border is open |
Jcrowley |
Apr-07-07 08:52 AM |
#48 |
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Yes. If we get rid of the other restrictions that currently exist. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 03:56 AM |
#13 |
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I can see how |
Big Pappa |
Apr-07-07 04:01 AM |
#17 |
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And whose fault is that? |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 04:03 AM |
#19 |
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Or sneak into Canada and see what happens. Why are other Countries allowed their immigration laws |
Blue State Native |
Apr-08-07 06:48 PM |
#193 |
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Well said. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 03:54 AM |
#12 |
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In other words, Iran had no right to hold UK sailors as captives. e.o.m. |
Boojatta |
Apr-07-07 12:20 PM |
#95 |
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"Solidarity with ALL immigrant workers!"? |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 01:09 AM |
#206 |
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the transportation of Labor across the world and societies |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 03:57 AM |
#14 |
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Think of them as economic refugees. They live under an economically oppressive |
tblue |
Apr-07-07 05:11 AM |
#31 |
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That's how I think of them--and the US subverted Mexico's free elections last year. |
blondeatlast |
Apr-07-07 04:31 PM |
#121 |
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If I was a young person that could make 9 or 10 times what I was making |
B Calm |
Apr-07-07 05:29 AM |
#34 |
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Right and the Mexican Government would deport you for being there illegally. As would any other |
Blue State Native |
Apr-08-07 07:05 PM |
#198 |
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I refuse to believe that |
DIKB |
Apr-07-07 05:38 AM |
#35 |
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Well said |
YankeyMCC |
Apr-07-07 06:36 AM |
#38 |
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The thing that really gets me is the hypocrisy.....you know, |
cboy4 |
Apr-07-07 07:03 AM |
#41 |
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Industrial-strength DLC, cheap labor hogwash! |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 08:09 AM |
#45 |
| -
If the immigrant workers didn't compete with workers in the US |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 01:28 PM |
#103 |
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They still want to destroy one of the few remaining bastions of relatively high wages. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 03:21 PM |
#111 |
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Then let's get rid of them. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 03:23 PM |
#112 |
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Dupe - self-delete. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 05:04 PM |
# |
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If they're here illegally, let's send them back as well. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 05:04 PM |
#130 |
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Why? |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:18 PM |
#138 |
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Good luck with that. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 05:20 PM |
#141 |
| -
Hmm, somehow I doubt that the millions of illegal immigrants here |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:24 PM |
#145 |
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Actually we need a crackdown on employers. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 05:35 PM |
#149 |
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Won't happen either. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:38 PM |
#150 |
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That HAS to change. And not just on illegal immigration. |
Jim Sagle |
Apr-07-07 09:42 PM |
#171 |
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Now there we agree! n/t |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 11:06 PM |
#175 |
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This is a very authoritarian country |
Jcrowley |
Apr-07-07 08:42 AM |
#47 |
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What a heartbreaking image. Damn. nt |
blondeatlast |
Apr-07-07 04:32 PM |
#122 |
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Freedom of movement is a human right. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-07-07 09:23 AM |
#50 |
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Suppose a homeless person migrates into your back yard |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 10:31 AM |
#65 |
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I'll deal that when it happens. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-07-07 10:38 AM |
#68 |
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They've been known to set up housekeeping in the woods around here |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 10:42 AM |
#70 |
| -
Every being is our own. |
roody |
Apr-07-07 10:05 PM |
#173 |
| -
Yes there is a difference |
Lost-in-FL |
Apr-07-07 09:57 AM |
#52 |
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I guess your problem is that you disagree with the law--of this country, and every other country |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-07-07 10:01 AM |
#53 |
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And with the rule of law generally, it would seem. Oh well....n/t |
Dutch |
Apr-07-07 10:17 AM |
#57 |
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And every other country... |
bling bling |
Apr-07-07 10:22 AM |
#61 |
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I respect the laws, I want them to be changed. |
aein |
Apr-07-07 12:06 PM |
#87 |
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We are members of humanity and citizens of the world before we are American |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Apr-07-07 10:01 AM |
#54 |
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Humanity is currrently 7 Billion strong and rising |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 10:28 AM |
#63 |
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Are you feeling cramped? |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Apr-07-07 10:58 AM |
#71 |
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I am feeling cramped. |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 11:19 AM |
#73 |
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I think that is the duh part, the problem isn't immigration |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Apr-07-07 01:39 PM |
#104 |
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This country would be near zero population growth |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 04:36 PM |
#123 |
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A country can only assimilate so many people at one time. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-07-07 10:11 AM |
#55 |
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what's wrong with that? |
aein |
Apr-07-07 12:07 PM |
#88 |
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Because it weakens the coheasion of the nation-state, thus letting the corporatists run things. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-07-07 12:15 PM |
#94 |
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An assay from another forum I post at. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-07-07 12:55 PM |
#101 |
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Interesting. Care to share with us what forum it is? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Apr-07-07 03:39 PM |
#115 |
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Here's the forum: |
Odin2005 |
Apr-08-07 05:28 PM |
#186 |
| -
Unfortunately, we don't have room for everyone who wants to come |
Nikia |
Apr-07-07 10:16 AM |
#56 |
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Open borders is a huge mistake. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-07-07 10:19 AM |
#58 |
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while I believe in human rights, the people that enter |
bbgrunt |
Apr-07-07 10:22 AM |
#60 |
| -
sigh.... |
Fountain79 |
Apr-07-07 10:28 AM |
#62 |
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I support your position |
aein |
Apr-07-07 12:12 PM |
#93 |
| -
Well, laws would seem to define a difference. You are being disingenuous in seeking |
WinkyDink |
Apr-07-07 10:31 AM |
#66 |
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Because it's an argument for being tolerant of intolerance. nt |
personman |
Apr-08-07 04:23 AM |
#178 |
| -
You're right. There is none because |
Skidmore |
Apr-07-07 10:34 AM |
#67 |
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translation: concept of sovereign nation-state is obsolete |
kineneb |
Apr-07-07 10:40 AM |
#69 |
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The people who complain about "illegals" are those who feel they're being slighted by them. |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 11:06 AM |
#72 |
| -
Utter Hogwash |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 11:21 AM |
#74 |
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Oh? Care to explain your rude dismissal, or would you just like to be an ass? - n/t |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 11:23 AM |
#75 |
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heh...like I just said...that'll touch a nerve. |
Forkboy |
Apr-07-07 11:44 AM |
#79 |
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You called it, your point. |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 11:52 AM |
#80 |
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What touches a nerve |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 05:20 PM |
#142 |
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Utter Hogwash - n/t |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 05:24 PM |
#144 |
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Oh Golly, that was clever |
pscot |
Apr-07-07 09:47 PM |
#172 |
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Sucks to be dismissed out of hand, doesn't it? |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 10:08 PM |
#174 |
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That'll touch a nerve |
Forkboy |
Apr-07-07 11:43 AM |
#78 |
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Incorrect. I, for one, simply believe a nation is obliged to manage its resources. |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 05:14 PM |
#134 |
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I didn't realize you were complaining about the "illegal problem." |
porphyrian |
Apr-07-07 05:19 PM |
#140 |
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Illegal immigrants bypass processes that protect public health and safety |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-07 11:30 AM |
#76 |
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so do wealthy, influential LEGAL immigrants- |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 12:02 PM |
#84 |
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Not relevant, but can you substantiate that? |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-07 12:53 PM |
#100 |
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no, not the way I should |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 05:27 PM |
#147 |
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What gets me is the hypocrisy. My husband's great-grandfather |
Coventina |
Apr-07-07 11:35 AM |
#77 |
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And according to the Native Americans that lived here before current ones, |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-07 11:54 AM |
#81 |
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I agree with you mostly, but a few differences |
ComerPerro |
Apr-07-07 11:56 AM |
#82 |
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we're all criminals if you want to come right down to it- how |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 11:57 AM |
#83 |
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I think your position is insulting to every immigrant who waited their turn, played by the rules, |
aikoaiko |
Apr-07-07 12:03 PM |
#85 |
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I'm one of those legal immigrants, I'm not insulted by my own argument |
aein |
Apr-07-07 12:10 PM |
#90 |
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You're not exactly being honest. you didn't wait you're turn -- you just tagged along. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-07-07 12:24 PM |
#96 |
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Your argument is that of a five year old |
omega minimo |
Apr-07-07 06:27 PM |
#161 |
| -
Was that suppose to be satire? |
aein |
Apr-08-07 01:12 PM |
#182 |
| -
It's an illustration of how simplistic and immature your argument is |
omega minimo |
Apr-08-07 02:47 PM |
#184 |
| -
Do you have any other criticism other than the fact that it "sounded" immature...like facts or... |
aein |
Apr-08-07 05:52 PM |
#188 |
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The onus is on you to make your case, if you have "like facts" or logic, not just emotional |
omega minimo |
Apr-08-07 06:19 PM |
#192 |
| -
maybe you didn't understand the gist of my argument |
aein |
Apr-08-07 06:55 PM |
#195 |
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The fact that some people have endured needless hardship |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 01:24 PM |
#102 |
| -
I guess this where I disagree with you, control over borders is a worthy pursuit. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-07-07 01:55 PM |
#105 |
| -
Borders are just lines on a map. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 02:52 PM |
#108 |
| -
what right to live and work where one pleases are you talking about |
aikoaiko |
Apr-07-07 03:16 PM |
#109 |
| -
But you do have the right to live here. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 03:18 PM |
#110 |
| -
I can see from your question that you don't recognize the right of sovereign nations to have |
aikoaiko |
Apr-07-07 03:29 PM |
#113 |
| -
Indeed I do not. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 03:31 PM |
#114 |
| -
Funny thing about moral law - it varies from person to person. |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 04:59 PM |
#128 |
| -
A difference of opinion does not imply a difference in truth. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:07 PM |
#132 |
| -
Spoken like those who justify assassinating abortion providers. |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 05:08 PM |
#133 |
| -
Indeed, they say the same about the need for laws to be morally justified. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:17 PM |
#136 |
| -
Breathing and sleeping are not choices, but principles are. |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 05:18 PM |
#139 |
| -
Hmm, principles. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:26 PM |
#146 |
| -
Was the European Conquest of the Americas illegal? |
genie_weenie |
Apr-07-07 12:11 PM |
#92 |
| -
not entirely true- while |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 12:33 PM |
#98 |
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Stop illegals from getting any benefits from the govt while citizens can't, and I'll agree with you. |
AZBlue |
Apr-07-07 12:26 PM |
#97 |
| -
and which ones are those? |
Morgana LaFey |
Apr-07-07 02:31 PM |
#107 |
| -
Which "ones" are you referring to? |
AZBlue |
Apr-07-07 07:37 PM |
#165 |
| -
I'm asking you what BENEFITS |
Morgana LaFey |
Apr-08-07 06:14 PM |
#191 |
| -
Everyone's for sale |
Jcrowley |
Apr-07-07 03:41 PM |
#117 |
| -
Disagree. Every nation has the right, and responsibility, to manage its resources. |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 04:17 PM |
#118 |
| -
Sure. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 04:19 PM |
#119 |
| -
It does not have the right to privilege some citizens over others, generally. But it does |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 04:50 PM |
#124 |
| -
Why? n/t |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 04:51 PM |
#125 |
| -
Because that is part of how a nation manages its resources, and for the same reason |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 04:57 PM |
#127 |
| -
"Managing" is different from "privileging." |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:01 PM |
#129 |
| -
Access is a resource. A nation has the right, and resonsibility, to manage its resources |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 05:05 PM |
#131 |
| -
Human beings are human beings. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:14 PM |
#135 |
| -
I shouldn't expect someone with an anarchy avatar to have any regard for |
mondo joe |
Apr-07-07 05:17 PM |
#137 |
| -
Indeed, you are correct that we anarchists generally wonder why |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:22 PM |
#143 |
| -
Texan Here |
Madspirit |
Apr-07-07 04:56 PM |
#126 |
| -
I see lots of emotional ideology... |
Nabeshin |
Apr-07-07 05:31 PM |
#148 |
| -
At some point we would expect that it would no longer be profitable to come. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:39 PM |
#151 |
| -
The point when it's no longer profitable to come... |
Nabeshin |
Apr-07-07 05:43 PM |
#152 |
| -
Unlikely. |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 05:47 PM |
#155 |
| -
The conditions for Third World immigrants in the US... |
Nabeshin |
Apr-07-07 06:07 PM |
#160 |
| -
I believe you are angry at the wrong group- Also, you are off with |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 06:28 PM |
#162 |
| -
Plenty of white-collar immigrants... |
Nabeshin |
Apr-07-07 07:36 PM |
#164 |
| -
the gluttony of this country- |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-07-07 06:00 PM |
#159 |
| -
I'm also disgusted... |
Nabeshin |
Apr-07-07 08:03 PM |
#166 |
| -
Strange, I thought I made a very logical argument... |
aein |
Apr-08-07 01:11 PM |
#181 |
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In my opinion the real criminals are their employers |
alarimer |
Apr-07-07 07:34 PM |
#163 |
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I agree with you one hundred percent, but I can tell you on |
Cleita |
Apr-07-07 09:06 PM |
#170 |
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nationalism may suck |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 05:50 PM |
#187 |
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Gladly, if they pay me rent. Or Build my highways, or cook my food. Or mow my lawn for $2 |
aein |
Apr-08-07 05:54 PM |
#189 |
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really? you have a cook and gardener? |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 06:04 PM |
#190 |
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I thought we were talking in metaphors. Unless you really have do have an illegal immigrant living.. |
aein |
Apr-08-07 07:09 PM |
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aein, what do you do for a living? |
B Calm |
Apr-08-07 07:01 PM |
#196 |
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but they will mow your lawn for two dollars! |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 07:06 PM |
#199 |
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I'm a graduate student. |
aein |
Apr-08-07 07:08 PM |
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graduate student huh? So you don't compete with illegal immigrants |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 07:31 PM |
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I see I won't win this by argument. I rather not win it by exhaustion either... |
aein |
Apr-08-07 07:11 PM |
#202 |
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Sorry, WRONG. As a LEGAL immigrant nothing pisses me off more than illegal immigrants... |
truebrit71 |
Apr-08-07 07:44 PM |
#205 |
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