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Sat Apr-07-07 08:34 PM
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| 76. If you ignore the era, its issues, and its personalities, you can't understand LBJ |
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It's true that many of the Texas Democrats in Johnson's time were rightwingers, and with Nixon's southern strategy many fled into the Republican party, because (being racists) they were irate about the Democratic Party stand on integration.
Johnson was not one of those racist wackos. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is, in a real sense, one of Johnson's achievements. Congress had repeatedly defeated efforts to pass such legislation in the 1950s, and the conservatives tirelessly labeled civil rights proponents communists. Johnson, fresh from Senate, was able to push the bill through. His commitment to civil rights and civil liberties was real -- and it was exhibited, for example, in his appointment of Thurgood Marshall to SCOTUS.
I don't see any reason to hold your view that Johnson would belong to the Republican Party today. Although the current Republican Party is far to the right of Goldwater, Goldwater was in many ways a rightwing extremist, and Johnson clearly distinguished himself from Goldwater.
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| -Let's settle this. Who Killed JFK? |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 12:52 AM |
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In fact, it was you and me. |
otherlander |
Apr-07-07 01:00 AM |
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Please, introduce yourself. you're a man of wealth and taste, no? |
MnFats |
Apr-07-07 01:13 AM |
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Pleased to meet you. |
otherlander |
Apr-07-07 01:20 AM |
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Hope you get my name.nt |
nam78_two |
Apr-07-07 01:44 AM |
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But what's puzzling you |
Laurier |
Apr-07-07 03:18 AM |
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Col. Mustard, in the conservatory, with a wrench. |
tjwash |
Apr-07-07 03:50 PM |
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probably not Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone. |
diane in sf |
Apr-07-07 01:05 AM |
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You mean Oswald was in an Improv troupe? |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-07-07 01:27 AM |
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Once you accept that possibility, almost anything is possible - |
lksmith |
Apr-08-07 06:20 AM |
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Sorry, but I can't joke about it. |
Suich |
Apr-07-07 01:05 AM |
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May Gerald Ford rot in Hell |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 01:17 AM |
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I prefer Ford to LBJ |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-08-07 04:55 PM |
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Oswald was a marine, he worked at a top secret U2 base at Atsugi (Japan)... |
bananarepublican |
Apr-07-07 10:10 PM |
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I just googled Hosty...I'd never heard the name before. Wow! |
Suich |
Apr-08-07 12:20 AM |
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The biggest hole in the story about Oswald's "defection" to the USSR |
dflprincess |
Apr-08-07 07:43 PM |
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George Brown, Walter Fondren, George ("Uncle") Dewey Malloy... |
TomInTib |
Apr-07-07 01:06 AM |
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I couldn't find them on google. |
Suich |
Apr-07-07 01:33 AM |
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No... |
TomInTib |
Apr-07-07 02:52 AM |
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'Illegal aliens' and 'GHW pals' are one and the same. |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-07-07 01:21 AM |
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Vice President of the US and I don't mean Cheney. |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 01:44 AM |
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"a purposeful coalition among the cartelists", "poison the channels of public information", |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-07-07 01:47 AM |
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Yes this battle has been going on in the states since it's birth |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 01:53 AM |
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Correct Military lndustrial Complex |
gordianot |
Apr-07-07 09:26 AM |
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Nice collection of Wallace quotes. Thanks! |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 12:52 PM |
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BOOM! |
Octafish |
Apr-07-07 07:51 AM |
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KA-BOOM! |
stirlingsliver |
Apr-07-07 05:17 PM |
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The assassination of President Kennedy is NOT Ancient History. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-07 05:35 PM |
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It was a better time |
Melynn |
Apr-07-07 09:29 PM |
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The Bush family had nothing to do with it, but like vultures circling the dead... |
PhilipShore |
Apr-07-07 09:52 PM |
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You need to do a little research. These people make things happen. |
gordianot |
Apr-08-07 02:00 PM |
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The CIA. Our government. |
LibInTexas |
Apr-07-07 01:21 AM |
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That's the "GHW Bush's pals" choice |
Up2Late |
Apr-07-07 01:54 AM |
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Lyndon Johnson, a democrat, was complicit. |
LibInTexas |
Apr-07-07 02:09 AM |
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Lyndon Johnson was a Texas Democrat who in many ways, acted like a... |
Up2Late |
Apr-07-07 12:00 PM |
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Johnson was a brilliant politician who managed to get himself elected ... |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 02:20 PM |
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"...not fair to judge him out of context..."??? What context is that? |
Up2Late |
Apr-07-07 05:25 PM |
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If you ignore the era, its issues, and its personalities, you can't understand LBJ |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 08:34 PM |
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Wasn't he also a ballot box stuffer? n/t |
bananarepublican |
Apr-07-07 10:13 PM |
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Possibly in the 1948 election with its 80 or 90 vote margin? A number of people ... |
struggle4progress |
Apr-08-07 04:54 PM |
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LBJ was a proto-neo-con. Sort of like a 60's Lieberman. |
meldroc |
Apr-07-07 05:31 PM |
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Of course the Mafia hated JFK |
Retired AF Dem |
Apr-07-07 03:38 PM |
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I did a similar poll about a year ago: IIRC, I had choices for |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 02:05 AM |
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Sure as hell wasn't Oswald |
Va Lefty |
Apr-07-07 01:25 AM |
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That does it. The Dem candidate who declares critical thinking education to be their top priority |
greyl |
Apr-07-07 01:25 AM |
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I'm watching Conspiracy Files on Discovery Times right now. |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-07-07 01:27 AM |
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Ambrose Bierce. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Apr-07-07 01:35 AM |
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General Reinhard Gehlen --JFK was shot by a German team ... |
PhilipShore |
Apr-07-07 01:39 AM |
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If anybody is interested in a REALLY good read on the JFK assassination, |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-07-07 01:43 AM |
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Joan Mellen's A Farewell To Justice |
EVDebs |
Apr-07-07 01:53 AM |
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EVDebs, the group of folks backing the re-opening of the |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-07-07 02:22 AM |
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Our legal advisor and Warren commisioner savior, Arlen specter is still in this shit |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 02:35 AM |
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A friend of mine in Philadelphia has distrusted Specter all his life. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-07-07 02:38 AM |
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He defended and reinforced the magic bullet theory |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 02:45 AM |
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I can't say that I clinically "know," but my deep suspicion with |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-07-07 02:49 AM |
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Wow, a major player for a long time |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 03:08 AM |
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Is Specter the only one left from the Warren Commission? |
Melynn |
Apr-07-07 09:37 PM |
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Indeed. Posner in particular. |
eridani |
Apr-07-07 01:57 PM |
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Norman Mailer's "Oswald's Tale" |
kskiska |
Apr-08-07 12:29 AM |
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It was LHO |
slowry |
Apr-07-07 01:48 AM |
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And I have a picture of the most likely location from were the kill shot came from too... |
Up2Late |
Apr-07-07 01:49 AM |
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Thoughtcrimes are not allowed on DU |
IChing |
Apr-07-07 02:14 AM |
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Is that a quote or your words? Anyway, here's a link to the photos... |
Up2Late |
Apr-07-07 03:48 PM |
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I was just reading this DU topic from yesterday... |
quantessd |
Apr-07-07 02:30 AM |
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I used to think it was conspiracy... |
dorkulon |
Apr-07-07 03:57 AM |
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All of the above |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-07-07 04:18 AM |
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John Dillinger. nt |
impeachdubya |
Apr-07-07 04:20 AM |
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Which one? |
Fozzledick |
Apr-07-07 09:49 AM |
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You're not cleared for that level of information yet. |
impeachdubya |
Apr-08-07 04:22 AM |
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Lee Harvey Oswald |
michreject |
Apr-07-07 05:08 AM |
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Now THAT is funny! We invaded Iraq because we thought Saddam |
soothsayer |
Apr-07-07 07:51 AM |
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And this is relevant, how?....... |
michreject |
Apr-07-07 05:13 PM |
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The path of the magic bullet is not speculative? n/t |
JackRiddler |
Apr-07-07 10:32 PM |
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Was anyone other than Oswald |
michreject |
Apr-08-07 06:47 AM |
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LBJ with help from GHW. Then GHW tried it on Reagan but mostly |
soothsayer |
Apr-07-07 07:48 AM |
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Other. n/t |
H2O Man |
Apr-07-07 07:48 AM |
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Who do you |
Jcrowley |
Apr-07-07 07:53 AM |
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There is a scene |
H2O Man |
Apr-07-07 10:38 AM |
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Dick Cheney, hunting accident! |
Nimrod2005 |
Apr-07-07 07:50 AM |
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Khalid Sheik Muhammed |
frogcycle |
Apr-07-07 07:51 AM |
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Woody Harrelson's daddy ... |
Fly by night |
Apr-07-07 08:52 AM |
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Jack Kennedy's death is now just a punch line for your bad jokes? |
MethuenProgressive |
Apr-07-07 08:56 AM |
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Sorry if it comes across that way. There have been several posts on the assassination |
struggle4progress |
Apr-07-07 10:54 AM |
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Elvis! |
C_eh_N_eh_D_eh |
Apr-07-07 09:11 AM |
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I wasn't alive at the time, but to me this is when it all seemed to begin |
soulcore |
Apr-07-07 09:42 AM |
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LBJ with help from others |
rosesaylavee |
Apr-07-07 10:29 AM |
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Another interesting docu places JBJ as a key player, but not |
lksmith |
Apr-08-07 06:26 AM |
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Oswald |
Odin2005 |
Apr-07-07 11:26 AM |
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Do you think the people who warned us about 9/11 were "conspiracy nuts"? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-07-07 02:55 PM |
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Poor DU. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-07-07 10:33 PM |
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I don't know...I think there are enough odd and substantiated connections among |
deutsey |
Apr-08-07 09:13 AM |
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K&R... to get it to the front page :) |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Apr-07-07 12:55 PM |
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Malcolm Wallace was the Texas Book Depository sniper. |
GETPLANING |
Apr-07-07 01:08 PM |
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Mac Wallace had killed on behalf of LBJ on several occasions b4! n/t |
bananarepublican |
Apr-07-07 10:22 PM |
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Rusty Shackleford |
stirlingsliver |
Apr-07-07 05:15 PM |
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LBJ....... |
liberalnurse |
Apr-07-07 05:22 PM |
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Remember how Pappy * bashed JFK conspiracy theorists at Ford's funeral? |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-07-07 09:07 PM |
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Though I despise Bush , he like Oswald were set up as Patsies... |
PhilipShore |
Apr-07-07 09:14 PM |
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Nope, don't think so. You need to learn about the BFEE. nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-08-07 02:35 PM |
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I think he's already confessed. |
ocelot |
Apr-07-07 09:08 PM |
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He did it with a Get-Smart-like dummy-gun! |
bananarepublican |
Apr-07-07 10:25 PM |
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What if... |
hang a left |
Apr-08-07 02:11 AM |
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Just like the brothers Gracchi in Rome, the Kennedys and King |
deutsey |
Apr-08-07 09:05 AM |
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LBJ, Cuban crooks and the Italian and Jewish mafias |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-08-07 05:53 PM |
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Done |
Hersheygirl |
Apr-08-07 05:55 PM |
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You guys rule. |
BuyingThyme |
Apr-08-07 05:57 PM |
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CIA, LBJ, and Anti Castro Cubans |
Geek_Girl |
Apr-08-07 06:01 PM |
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Well, I'm glad this thread settled the matter |
walldude |
Apr-08-07 07:46 PM |
#107 |
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