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Mon Jun-29-09 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #54 |
| 108. I think the parents may be familiar with that story. |
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This is just too similar to explain otherwise.
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| -Swedish parents keep 2-year-old's gender secret |
Are_grits_groceries |
Jun-29-09 09:53 AM |
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If gender is purely a social construct, that child will still have to live in that society |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 09:59 AM |
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Do we know the gender of Snap, or Crackle? |
SoCalDem |
Jun-29-09 11:17 AM |
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LOL!! |
spoony |
Jun-29-09 01:34 PM |
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It's Pat |
lame54 |
Jun-29-09 10:00 AM |
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Lol! n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-29-09 10:11 AM |
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I thought the same thing! LOL. n/t |
Cleita |
Jun-29-09 11:55 AM |
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Or just "X" |
lolly |
Jun-29-09 12:23 PM |
#54 |
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yup, i read that a long time ago n/t |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 03:11 PM |
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I think the parents may be familiar with that story. |
surrealAmerican |
Jun-29-09 04:59 PM |
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But it's stunning how sexist kids' world is. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jun-29-09 10:03 AM |
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Human Nature n/t |
DaveinJapan |
Jun-29-09 10:05 AM |
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Not all of it. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jun-29-09 10:42 AM |
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conditioning. hence what the parents are doing. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 11:18 AM |
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Oh right, sexism is "human nature." Is it "hard wired" too? Regale us with your confirmation bias. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-29-09 12:43 PM |
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You assume a lot |
DaveinJapan |
Jun-30-09 05:28 AM |
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These people are nuts. |
kegler14 |
Jun-29-09 10:05 AM |
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Forced into a gender mode? WTF? |
panader0 |
Jun-29-09 10:06 AM |
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See, now I bet it's a girl. |
cwydro |
Jun-29-09 11:19 AM |
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>_> |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jun-29-09 10:09 AM |
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Poor kid. |
scrinmaster |
Jun-29-09 10:11 AM |
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my first thought as well. |
dysfunctional press |
Jun-29-09 11:24 AM |
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Yup. Fascinating topic, worth analyzing... |
trotsky |
Jun-29-09 11:34 AM |
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Gender is a biological construct |
anonymous171 |
Jun-29-09 10:11 AM |
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nope...gender more complicated... |
LeftHander |
Jun-29-09 10:30 AM |
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I think they mean "gender expression" |
marshall |
Jun-29-09 11:05 AM |
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i find peoples reaction to this more interesting than what the parents are doing. nt |
xchrom |
Jun-29-09 10:14 AM |
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+1 nt |
One_Life_To_Give |
Jun-29-09 10:16 AM |
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Why? |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 10:16 AM |
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it is interesting. will be interesting to see how it develops, though i am sure we |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 11:19 AM |
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lots of parents may do this, without even intending to... |
tigereye |
Jun-29-09 11:56 AM |
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exactly. that is why i find this interesting. with both my boys we didnt do any of the |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 12:02 PM |
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Indeed. |
redqueen |
Jun-29-09 12:01 PM |
#44 |
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+2 /nt |
readmoreoften |
Jun-29-09 12:35 PM |
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Yep... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-29-09 12:52 PM |
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Yep |
Lorien |
Jun-29-09 02:45 PM |
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Pop Secret, they gave birth to microwave popcorn |
Stevenmarc |
Jun-29-09 10:16 AM |
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Lol, this thread is a DUzy goldmine :-) |
spoony |
Jun-29-09 01:35 PM |
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I like it. |
Ron Green |
Jun-29-09 10:19 AM |
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Reminds me of a cartoon I saw: Two young parents with a toddler in a stroller and two |
bertman |
Jun-29-09 10:22 AM |
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About the name thing...babies are integral parts of the families |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 10:24 AM |
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Really? And how are you going to teach this unnamed baby to recognise itself? |
anigbrowl |
Jun-29-09 11:25 AM |
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Perhaps the naming process can be informed by the earliest traits of the infant. |
Ron Green |
Jun-29-09 11:36 AM |
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Hmm. How many kids have you had? |
anigbrowl |
Jun-29-09 12:16 PM |
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I've had some (my first grandchild is due in August), |
Ron Green |
Jun-29-09 12:20 PM |
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I've known more than one kid who was allowed to name him or herself. They're fine. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-29-09 12:47 PM |
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What immediately comes to my mind |
SheilaT |
Jun-29-09 11:08 AM |
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That was my first thought too....sounds like he/she will be allowed to chose |
pkdu |
Jun-29-09 11:16 AM |
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the restroom with the parent. same as all little kids... n/t |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 11:20 AM |
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My partner was assigned "female" and she gets kicked out of women's restrooms all the time |
readmoreoften |
Jun-29-09 12:37 PM |
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that kept happening to my ex-wife in bars 'til she started flashing people |
TrogL |
Jun-29-09 02:36 PM |
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All of my kids came into the ladies room with me... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-29-09 12:55 PM |
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i still friggin use the buddy system sending boys into mens bathroom |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 12:56 PM |
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I worry about toe-tapping senators... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-29-09 01:48 PM |
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funny |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 01:52 PM |
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This won't last long. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-29-09 11:20 AM |
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they aren't saying anything is wrong with either gender. |
noamnety |
Jun-29-09 11:35 AM |
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I don't get this. |
Akoto |
Jun-29-09 11:22 AM |
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Because the biological role automatically forces you into the cultural role. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-30-09 01:01 AM |
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I have a daughter and I hate pink. |
Kalyke |
Jun-29-09 11:27 AM |
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LOL, and I have sons and LOVE pink! |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-29-09 01:30 PM |
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They don't have birth certificates in Sweden? |
sutz12 |
Jun-29-09 11:30 AM |
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And in 15 years, I hope the parents have lots of money for therapy |
scheming daemons |
Jun-29-09 11:32 AM |
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It's Sweden... won't it be covered? (n/t) |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jun-29-09 11:53 AM |
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Stupid people. |
TheWraith |
Jun-29-09 11:47 AM |
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says the person with undeclared gender.... bah hahahah. |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 12:06 PM |
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Yep we are humans not single celled organisms |
EndersDame |
Jun-29-09 01:32 PM |
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The more variety the better. |
Morning Dew |
Jun-29-09 02:03 PM |
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Good an approach as any |
CBGLuthier |
Jun-29-09 11:47 AM |
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Some people are so warped... ~SIGH~ |
kjackson227 |
Jun-29-09 11:49 AM |
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whatever |
WI_DEM |
Jun-29-09 12:06 PM |
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I don't think this will end as badly as many seem to assume |
fishwax |
Jun-29-09 12:06 PM |
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+1 -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-29-09 02:20 PM |
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Might work in Sweden, though I doubt it. Wouldn't stand a chance here. |
Vidar |
Jun-29-09 12:08 PM |
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i think it's funny how many people think this is sooooo strange |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 12:20 PM |
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Well said. Ditto! |
TokenQueer |
Jun-29-09 12:23 PM |
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Thats not really the point at all |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 12:28 PM |
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and i don't think it's appropriate to apply those social norms |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 01:06 PM |
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ahhh, but there are equal disadvantages to boys if they dont follow the adopted role of what boys is |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 01:51 PM |
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i didn't say ANYTHING about boys, especially that "it" is not repressing for them n/t |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 01:54 PM |
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ya, i was bringing it up cause of my own experience with son and revelation |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 01:57 PM |
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ok, sorry to jump at you n/t |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 01:58 PM |
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but but but |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 02:00 PM |
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I don't buy your, "children can be very cruel" argument. |
surrealAmerican |
Jun-29-09 05:24 PM |
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Yes, I think 2 year olds do not... |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 07:00 PM |
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I just think we are humans and not single celled organisms |
EndersDame |
Jun-29-09 01:40 PM |
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Well..its unique enough to merit a news story |
yodoobo |
Jun-30-09 12:45 AM |
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I just...what? |
Arkana |
Jun-29-09 12:22 PM |
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Awwww, a pet guinea pig! |
rucky |
Jun-29-09 12:25 PM |
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How beautiful |
Oregone |
Jun-29-09 12:33 PM |
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+1 |
nemo137 |
Jun-29-09 03:52 PM |
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Having raised a child of each gender, I think this is kind of funny |
dugaresa |
Jun-29-09 12:36 PM |
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Oh big f'in deal. The kid will probably be more well-adjusted than the most on this thread. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-29-09 12:41 PM |
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indeed and probably less insecure than most on du. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Jun-29-09 12:44 PM |
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lol lol, isnt that the truth. not like the kid wont know their gender. |
seabeyond |
Jun-29-09 12:49 PM |
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"more well-adjusted" |
JuniperLea |
Jun-29-09 12:50 PM |
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They are running a psychological experiment on a captive child. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-29-09 12:54 PM |
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everyone who raises a child is performing an experiment on a captive n/t |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 01:10 PM |
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+1 (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-29-09 02:03 PM |
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Best post. nt |
woo me with science |
Jun-29-09 10:29 PM |
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The child will be fine. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-30-09 01:04 AM |
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The only way I could see this as damaging to the child.... |
Fleshdancer |
Jun-29-09 12:54 PM |
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Awesome, I bet this kid rebels against his parent and turns into a extreme butch or femme |
aikoaiko |
Jun-29-09 01:13 PM |
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Gender is a biological thing not a social thing |
EndersDame |
Jun-29-09 01:24 PM |
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More complicated and sometimes ambiguous |
One_Life_To_Give |
Jun-29-09 01:59 PM |
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That does happen... |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-30-09 01:07 AM |
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I know I think this also points to gender as a biological thing |
EndersDame |
Jun-30-09 09:09 AM |
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Ran into something similar a few years ago |
LibertyLover |
Jun-29-09 01:26 PM |
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I have to agree with you |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-29-09 01:33 PM |
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Thats fucked up the kid should be proud of where she comes from |
EndersDame |
Jun-29-09 01:41 PM |
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Absolutely |
LibertyLover |
Jun-29-09 03:42 PM |
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I am 1/2 white 1/2 mexican and raised by my white mama |
EndersDame |
Jun-29-09 11:43 PM |
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We do much the same |
LibertyLover |
Jun-30-09 12:40 PM |
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It almost reminds of Colbert and how he keeps saying "I don't see race and gender" |
fujiyama |
Jun-30-09 12:23 AM |
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I completely get this. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jun-29-09 02:37 PM |
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i had a women's studies teacher |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 03:10 PM |
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There are soooo many --- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jun-29-09 04:06 PM |
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This is unethical. Parents shouldn't use their kids as an psychological experiment. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-29-09 03:34 PM |
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How is this a "psychological experiment"? |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-30-09 01:11 AM |
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Because that doesn't mean that things like this can't scew a kid up. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-30-09 07:59 AM |
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As long as they don't try to keep this going after the kid starts school |
XemaSab |
Jun-29-09 03:58 PM |
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More Parents who shouldn't be parents doing stupid things |
NeedleCast |
Jun-29-09 04:03 PM |
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other than medical, what are any legitimate reasons anyone |
Scout |
Jun-29-09 04:09 PM |
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Its a child. not a social statement |
yodoobo |
Jun-30-09 12:37 AM |
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I doubt it. |
ContinentalOp |
Jun-30-09 01:12 AM |
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The kid will figure it out soon |
fujiyama |
Jun-30-09 12:46 AM |
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Lol...people can't be comfortable if we can't categorize things. It's all sort of amusing. |
Evoman |
Jun-30-09 01:14 AM |
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we think it's okay for our kids to make fun of this kid. |
seabeyond |
Jun-30-09 08:53 AM |
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With many intersexed kids, you literally can't tell |
eridani |
Jun-30-09 01:34 AM |
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How nice. They are using their child as an experiment. |
mamaleah |
Jun-30-09 01:53 AM |
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So which BATHROOM will the kid use in school? |
Celtic Merlin |
Jun-30-09 02:32 AM |
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Why the hell is this a story or even something anyone |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-30-09 08:05 AM |
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Seems pretty goofy to me. |
Vickers |
Jun-30-09 09:10 AM |
#131 |
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