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Sun Jun-28-09 12:32 AM
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| 28. Here is an example I just posted in another thread....Kucinich and SCHIP |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... In a perfect world Kucinich would rather have HR 676, that did not stop him from fighting for a better bill. 
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| -Which do you prefer: the perfect or the good? |
XemaSab |
Jun-27-09 10:39 PM |
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Try for the perfect, but don't pout like a whiny ass titty baby if all you get is the good. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-27-09 10:42 PM |
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What if you get a piece of shit everyone is pretending to be good, while making fun of your perfect? |
Oregone |
Jun-27-09 10:46 PM |
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I expect them to do their absolutest damndest to get as close as possible to whatever I want done. |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-27-09 10:48 PM |
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I prefer appropriate over half-assed. |
flvegan |
Jun-27-09 10:49 PM |
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Good way to frame it |
Oregone |
Jun-27-09 10:58 PM |
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Thank you. |
flvegan |
Jun-28-09 12:29 AM |
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I think on many levels we're working towards the same goals |
XemaSab |
Jun-27-09 11:02 PM |
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Here's the thing when you start comparing AR to politics like that |
flvegan |
Jun-27-09 11:28 PM |
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I may have picked a bad example |
XemaSab |
Jun-27-09 11:46 PM |
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In the example given, it doesn't work that way. |
flvegan |
Jun-28-09 12:19 AM |
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Depends on the context |
depakid |
Jun-27-09 10:53 PM |
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That's my biggest concern about the health care debate |
Cant trust em |
Jun-28-09 03:10 AM |
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I'm all for the good, but it actually has to *be good*. Not the payout or the ratcheting down |
Mark Twain Girl |
Jun-27-09 11:06 PM |
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PREFER perfect, of course, |
elleng |
Jun-27-09 11:10 PM |
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It isn't possible to come close to getting anything good unless you demand perfect. |
eridani |
Jun-27-09 11:10 PM |
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What if the high offer makes people walk away from the table? |
Cant trust em |
Jun-28-09 03:14 AM |
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Analogy fails, as single payer is the best financial deal available |
eridani |
Jun-28-09 04:00 AM |
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Yet somehow getting people to agree to that seems to be a sticking point. nt |
Cant trust em |
Jun-28-09 11:30 AM |
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It's just a matter of doing the math |
eridani |
Jun-29-09 04:17 AM |
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I prefer that advocates not construct false paradigms to sell their ideas. |
TexasObserver |
Jun-27-09 11:10 PM |
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Can you give an example? |
XemaSab |
Jun-27-09 11:22 PM |
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Yes. This thread. |
TexasObserver |
Jun-27-09 11:38 PM |
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I'm not following you at all |
XemaSab |
Jun-27-09 11:54 PM |
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I believe it is a false dichotomy to talk in terms of "the good" v. "the perfect." |
TexasObserver |
Jun-28-09 12:05 AM |
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I think it's the realistic result of negotiation. |
Cant trust em |
Jun-28-09 03:21 AM |
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i prefer perfect, but i'll settle for good. just like blowjobs. |
dysfunctional press |
Jun-27-09 11:24 PM |
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I think they should try for the perfect because they must compromise anyway, so |
Kitty Herder |
Jun-27-09 11:30 PM |
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Depends on how ideal (what you call "perfect") became acceptable (what you call "good") n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jun-27-09 11:31 PM |
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I prefer polls that aren't smug push polls. How about "the good" vs "the less than desirable"? |
readmoreoften |
Jun-27-09 11:49 PM |
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AKA. Do you want a solution or do you want feelgood bullshit that only appears to get the job done? |
readmoreoften |
Jun-27-09 11:51 PM |
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Which do you prefer? False Dichotomy or Platitude-Based Thinking? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-28-09 12:09 AM |
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there's little to no difference between 'The Good' and 'The Perfect' |
xchrom |
Jun-28-09 12:16 AM |
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False Dicotomy; did not vote |
PufPuf23 |
Jun-28-09 12:26 AM |
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BINGO! US citizens ("barbarians") do enjoy the freedom to cheerlead though. n/t |
asteroid2003QQ47 |
Jun-28-09 04:04 AM |
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Here is an example I just posted in another thread....Kucinich and SCHIP |
slipslidingaway |
Jun-28-09 12:32 AM |
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It depends on whether better legislation was actually impossible |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-28-09 04:05 AM |
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Since there is no such thing as perfection in human affairs.. |
Fumesucker |
Jun-28-09 07:44 AM |
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In the healthcare debate, single payer is perfect. Public Option is good. |
WeDidIt |
Jun-28-09 07:50 AM |
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"Good enough" lingers just as long. |
rucky |
Jun-28-09 07:54 AM |
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Obama isnt just hobbling together a rube goldberg device. |
Gman2 |
Jun-28-09 08:10 AM |
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You make such good sense. I agree 100%. |
CTyankee |
Jun-28-09 09:50 AM |
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"Not as bad" does not equal good, any more than half a lie doesn't equal truth. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-28-09 09:52 AM |
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Other: |
LWolf |
Jun-29-09 12:27 PM |
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it's the good that always gets compared |
GreenArrow |
Jun-29-09 12:30 PM |
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