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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:58 AM
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Fact checking Randi -- 60% of people are already on gov't health care?
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"60% of ALL of the people in the United States are insured with YOUR taxpayer dollars. The entire military, the entire senate, the entire house, every federal employee actually, every state employee, county employees -- you know they're all insured with our tax dollars, which is fine."

Now, she leaves out people on Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Social Security, and other entitlements, who would also be insured with tax dollars.

Even if you add up ALL those people, does that even approach 60% of all people with health insurance?

Her new site doesn't have the program notes like her old one did, and she didn't cite anything.

Does this sound right to anyone else?
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  -Fact checking Randi -- 60% of people are already on gov't health care? gmoney  Jun-27-09 09:58 AM   #0 
  - I think she meant the uninsured who default on health care expenses...  Dennis Donovan   Jun-27-09 10:01 AM   #1 
  - 60% of all healthcare spending is public, but that doesn't mean 60% of people have it  Juche   Jun-27-09 10:16 AM   #2 
  - People on medicare pay for their "medical insurance".  DURHAM D   Jun-27-09 10:16 AM   #3 
  - Federal employees pay part of their premiums too  havocmom   Jun-27-09 10:46 AM   #9 
     - And military personnel on active duty are covered, but their dependents, not always.  MADem   Jun-27-09 11:40 AM   #12 
     - Yep - total bullshit. I go on medicare in a few months.  DURHAM D   Jun-27-09 11:55 AM   #14 
     - People fail to understand military coverage is by private companies that get contracts  havocmom   Jun-27-09 06:44 PM   #29 
     - how much is the premium?  hfojvt   Jun-27-09 12:23 PM   #18 
        - I think Havocdad pays a couple hundred or so a month  havocmom   Jun-27-09 06:40 PM   #28 
  - There's a number like this...  Davis_X_Machina   Jun-27-09 10:17 AM   #4 
  - don't forget prisoners  deadmessengers   Jun-27-09 10:28 AM   #5 
  - It is not just the uninsured --it is the high cost of Medical Care  OHdem10   Jun-27-09 10:33 AM   #6 
  - Hm, no wonder people say single-payer will cost NOTHING  Oregone   Jun-27-09 10:42 AM   #7 
  - Thanks...  gmoney   Jun-27-09 10:42 AM   #8 
  - Ummm people on Medicare pay premiums and co-pays  Bluenorthwest   Jun-27-09 10:48 AM   #10 
  - Right... I think it it was more about who's part of 'single payer' already.  gmoney   Jun-27-09 11:20 AM   #11 
  - Right....but this 'our tax dollars' bit has got to go  Bluenorthwest   Jun-27-09 12:08 PM   #16 
     - the same thing is true of government workers though too  hfojvt   Jun-27-09 12:45 PM   #20 
  - Thanks for your post.  DURHAM D   Jun-27-09 12:03 PM   #15 
  - I get sick of it  Bluenorthwest   Jun-27-09 12:21 PM   #17 
  - 'if their income is high enough'  hfojvt   Jun-27-09 12:29 PM   #19 
     - There are four parts to medicare coverage. Which premium (part) are you asking about? nt  DURHAM D   Jun-27-09 12:54 PM   #21 
        - I only find two  hfojvt   Jun-27-09 01:49 PM   #23 
           - C & D.  DURHAM D   Jun-27-09 02:52 PM   #25 
  - Posted some links here last week...  slipslidingaway   Jun-27-09 11:46 AM   #13 
  - Thanks OECD. I couldn't remember where those figures came from since  Cleita   Jun-27-09 03:37 PM   #27 
     - YW :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jun-28-09 12:44 AM   #32 
  - 83 million (25%) are: 46 million Medicare, 11 million military, 8 million SCHIP, federal employees  lindisfarne   Jun-27-09 01:39 PM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-09 01:52 PM   #24 
  - That 60% figure has been out there for awhile and I believe it originally  Cleita   Jun-27-09 03:24 PM   #26 
  - Ok, well then there should not be any issue getting it to...  and-justice-for-all   Jun-27-09 07:09 PM   #30 
     - There shouldn't be except that our Congress doesn't seem to see it that  Cleita   Jun-27-09 07:15 PM   #31 

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