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106. Hmmmm, ....good point :P
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  -Kucinich votes against climate change bill NorthCarolina  Jun-27-09 08:38 AM   #0 
  - that dude is the truth barometer  natrat   Jun-27-09 08:44 AM   #1 
  - Personally, I think it is incredibly sad  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-09 08:47 AM   #2 
  - Kucinich was who I supported  ixion   Jun-27-09 08:50 AM   #3 
  - I voted for Kucinich in the Primaries after he dropped out.  bananas   Jun-28-09 03:56 AM   #120 
  - Me too. Kucinich was my candidate  Enthusiast   Jun-28-09 07:09 AM   #124 
  - I smiled as you said--imagine the possibilities----but  sisters6   Jun-27-09 09:24 AM   #12 
  - it points directly to the immaturity of the nation.  tomp   Jun-27-09 09:38 AM   #15 
  - Where can I find out how Pete DeFozio voted?  Political Heretic   Jun-27-09 02:40 PM   #40 
  - Imagine The Possibilities???  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-27-09 03:31 PM   #52 
  - Sad, but I'm not surprised you made the "effort".  U4ikLefty   Jun-28-09 12:05 AM   #111 
  - Most of the nation never even got a chance to hear him. But somebody here had a great idea,  Greyhound   Jun-27-09 08:08 PM   #94 
  - Obama had the right attitude during the campaign in every way. However  Gman   Jun-27-09 09:52 PM   #101 
  - Imagine the possiblities? He would be the lamest of lame ducks  MadBadger   Jun-28-09 09:22 AM   #128 
  - He could never have been elected, and he knew it.  Honeycombe8   Jun-28-09 09:29 AM   #129 
  - spelling police: that would be a corporate teat.  crikkett   Jun-27-09 09:35 AM   #14 
  - !  bvar22   Jun-27-09 11:20 AM   #27 
  - Does he really think a better bill could get through Congress?  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 08:53 AM   #4 
  - I'm quite sure that the reason Kucinich voted against the bill  NorthCarolina   Jun-27-09 09:01 AM   #5 
  - Exactly what to expect  izquierdista   Jun-27-09 09:02 AM   #6 
  - Maybe he voted against it because it would hurt working people. nt  imdjh   Jun-27-09 09:04 AM   #8 
  - A no vote is a no vote when it's counted.  Robb   Jun-27-09 09:07 AM   #9 
  - The MSM is composed of idiots, and those who give them credence are likewise idiotic.  man4allcats   Jun-27-09 10:43 AM   #23 
  - Great Einstein quote, man4allcats. Thanks  bertman   Jun-27-09 11:23 AM   #28 
  - that's a good one!!  dana_b   Jun-27-09 06:56 PM   #74 
  - In his case they usually DO report on why.  SmileyRose   Jun-27-09 11:44 AM   #30 
  - And more subsidies to coal is more subsidies to coal when the money gets divved up.  readmoreoften   Jun-27-09 11:46 AM   #31 
  - You have a strong point, Robb.  Enthusiast   Jun-28-09 07:14 AM   #125 
  - It wont address the problem. In fact, it might make the problem worse.  Hannah Bell   Jun-27-09 03:07 PM   #49 
  - Did you listen to Boehner?  imdjh   Jun-27-09 09:03 AM   #7 
  - as a rule, don't believe a word Boehner says  G_j   Jun-27-09 09:32 AM   #13 
  - He was reading from the bill in front of the House.  imdjh   Jun-27-09 09:42 AM   #16 
     - Boehner is a boob  pjt7   Jun-27-09 07:15 PM   #80 
  - A tax on (fossil fuel) energy is *exactly* what the USA, and the developed world, needs  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 09:49 AM   #17 
  - You keep saying that "doing nothing" is the default. That's simply not true.  imdjh   Jun-27-09 09:59 AM   #19 
  - Let's see how people line up on the bill:  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 01:34 PM   #37 
     - How about a table showing how much money these individuals received..  girl gone mad   Jun-27-09 02:27 PM   #38 
     - The bill decreases CO2 emissions, without taking into account offsets  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 02:46 PM   #41 
        - What I believe is that two factions are battling in this, and neither one of them is us. nt  imdjh   Jun-27-09 02:52 PM   #43 
        - I think the point is that it doesn't reduce emissions until it's too late.  Greyhound   Jun-27-09 04:15 PM   #57 
           - Too late for what?  imdjh   Jun-27-09 07:52 PM   #92 
              - 2030, 2030.  Greyhound   Jun-27-09 08:04 PM   #93 
                 - I don't know. I don't know.  imdjh   Jun-27-09 08:10 PM   #95 
                    - Well Windoze will never work correctly, everybody that had a hope in hell of  Greyhound   Jun-27-09 08:37 PM   #96 
                       - The worst threat to the environment is not what most people think it is...  Dragonfli   Jun-28-09 12:41 AM   #112 
                          - "It may even already be too late to reverse global warming", Just between you and I,  Greyhound   Jun-28-09 02:35 AM   #118 
     - spin. "too weak" isn't why k voted no. try "ineffective, worse than nothing"  Hannah Bell   Jun-27-09 03:04 PM   #48 
        - Then he would be wrong, if that was actually what he said  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 04:10 PM   #56 
           - here's the quote:  Hannah Bell   Jun-28-09 02:18 AM   #116 
  - Sounds like it *will* increase coal consumption  starroute   Jun-27-09 10:21 AM   #21 
  - But it decreases carbon dioxide emissions  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 02:39 PM   #39 
  - And what, pray tell, do people like ME do, who have no options?  bobbolink   Jun-27-09 05:21 PM   #63 
     - to get people to use less fuel  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 06:28 PM   #68 
        - Yeah, when the middle and lower income people  twitomy   Jun-27-09 06:52 PM   #73 
        - So, if you hurt poor folk, so what?? Is that "progressive"?  bobbolink   Jun-27-09 07:36 PM   #90 
           - To the contrary:  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-28-09 04:21 AM   #121 
              - Yes, you're obviously NOT INTERESTED IN THE SUFfERING OF POOR FOLK!  bobbolink   Jun-28-09 01:51 PM   #130 
  - I respectfully disagree regarding the building codes and appliances part of your complaint.  bertman   Jun-27-09 12:02 PM   #32 
  - What is the constitutional basis for a federal building code?  imdjh   Jun-27-09 03:03 PM   #47 
  - Thank you for understanding that! Except it's ALL poor people, not just "working" poor!  bobbolink   Jun-27-09 05:19 PM   #62 
  - Sorry. It was the political animal in me talking. Come and sit with me.  imdjh   Jun-27-09 06:02 PM   #65 
     - Thank you for understanding! Unfortunately, that TALK leads to ACTION, which leaves me out.  bobbolink   Jun-27-09 07:32 PM   #88 
  - Why would I listen to a Republican?  HughMoran   Jun-27-09 06:38 PM   #71 
  - A very important point.  debbierlus   Jun-27-09 07:28 PM   #85 
  - Somebody has to be the standard-bearer  rucky   Jun-27-09 09:07 AM   #10 
  - The thing is, if something isn't passed before the Copenhagen conference  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 09:57 AM   #18 
  - Kyoto fixed that.  rucky   Jun-27-09 10:49 AM   #24 
  - not to mention we would be a fucking laughing stock/  NYC Democrat   Jun-27-09 07:07 PM   #76 
  - Markey has been a leader on this issue since at least the 1990s  karynnj   Jun-27-09 11:19 AM   #26 
  - Didn't Democrats win the last two elections and don't they control Congress  Better Believe It   Jun-27-09 10:00 AM   #20 
  - "Naive Idealism" -Perfect description!  sellitman   Jun-27-09 10:36 AM   #22 
  - It is an extremely crappy bill.  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 12:43 PM   #35 
  - Not passing a bill means even more CO2 emissions than now  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-27-09 02:49 PM   #42 
  - And we what - can't wait two or three weeks to put together a meaningful bill?  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 02:54 PM   #45 
  - Another option could have been to SUPPORT the amendments he offered, not bury them.  Dragonfli   Jun-27-09 09:17 PM   #97 
  - If Kucinich says that we won't even realize most of the benefits for  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 03:00 PM   #46 
     - What's wrong with realising benefits in 10 years?  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-28-09 04:39 AM   #122 
  - What provisions of the bill punish those who drive older cars?  Telly Savalas   Jun-27-09 03:32 PM   #53 
     - I have heard that we will be required to scrap our cars  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 04:05 PM   #54 
        - A provision like that would price about half the US population out of cars.  Telly Savalas   Jun-27-09 04:20 PM   #58 
           - There was even talk here on DU - some provision inside the  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 04:27 PM   #60 
              - There's a difference between offering money for someone to trade in a junker  Telly Savalas   Jun-27-09 09:49 PM   #100 
                 - And in any case - taking cars of the road will always cause more pollution  Indenturedebtor   Jun-27-09 11:53 PM   #107 
  - He's not merely "experienced", he's principled; and that is the reason for his vote.  11 Bravo   Jun-27-09 05:38 PM   #64 
  - yep, he didn't act like a politician  datasuspect   Jun-28-09 07:16 AM   #126 
  - Good for Dennis.  bigwillq   Jun-27-09 09:12 AM   #11 
  - Kucinich speaks for me!  mike_c   Jun-27-09 11:12 AM   #25 
  - Lets see...who has more credibility on climate change issues?  S_E_Fudd   Jun-27-09 11:31 AM   #29 
  - Gore has his own credibility problems in this area  starroute   Jun-27-09 01:27 PM   #36 
  - As Preesident of the Senate back in '93, Gore killed a bill that would have basically  truedelphi   Jun-27-09 04:08 PM   #55 
     - join the crowd. i've been dubious of him since he started talking about the  Hannah Bell   Jun-28-09 02:13 AM   #115 
  - No, you mean Al "dollars to Wall Street" Gore.  Hannah Bell   Jun-27-09 03:22 PM   #50 
  - No, you mean Al "dollars to Wall Street" Gore.  pjt7   Jun-27-09 07:19 PM   #81 
  - Considering that when actually had a vote he didn't use to help anybody but the corporations.  Greyhound   Jun-27-09 04:23 PM   #59 
  - because he wrote a book/made a film about climate change? have  Hannah Bell   Jun-28-09 01:59 AM   #114 
     - Well, he has always been of the parasite class, he was born into it.  Greyhound   Jun-28-09 02:22 AM   #117 
  - You've got that wrong:  LWolf   Jun-27-09 06:20 PM   #67 
  - I think we're going to have to put up with some  PSzymeczek   Jun-27-09 07:28 PM   #84 
  - Appalachia can't stand anymore mountaintop removal,  quidam56   Jun-27-09 12:29 PM   #33 
  - Exactly! That's an INCREDIBLY important point to bring up.  RufusTFirefly   Jun-27-09 05:12 PM   #61 
     - Burning the Future  PSzymeczek   Jun-27-09 07:32 PM   #89 
  - America is the Saudi Arabia of coal, that is an economic and political reality  Hippo_Tron   Jun-27-09 12:36 PM   #34 
  - Good for Dennis--he must have actually read the bill  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-27-09 02:52 PM   #44 
  - Typical Of The Kook.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-27-09 03:27 PM   #51 
  - Kook? Bitterly ironic  RufusTFirefly   Jun-27-09 06:02 PM   #66 
  - I'm on the fence about this one. The bill was not good enough...  earth mom   Jun-27-09 06:33 PM   #69 
  - your right the bill is lackluster but it is the best we can get and still better then nothing  NYC Democrat   Jun-27-09 07:11 PM   #79 
  - Yeah, I heard he wasn't the only Dem who was going to vote against it  HughMoran   Jun-27-09 06:35 PM   #70 
  - I remember when Kucinich voted against SCHIP, and then  ProSense   Jun-27-09 06:38 PM   #72 
  - Moonbeam McCrazypants voted against SCHIP?  BlooInBloo   Jun-27-09 07:29 PM   #87 
  - Goosestepper Vacuumhead has a brilliant thought to add to the discussion?  Dragonfli   Jun-27-09 09:37 PM   #99 
  - First of all Bush had already threatened to veto the SCHIP bill...  slipslidingaway   Jun-27-09 11:59 PM   #110 
  - If Kucinich were president, we would be well on our way to a bright new day.  winyanstaz   Jun-27-09 07:01 PM   #75 
  - no we would be bitching about how congress refuses to back any of his plans.  NYC Democrat   Jun-27-09 07:10 PM   #77 
     - Yep.  BlooInBloo   Jun-27-09 07:29 PM   #86 
     - Hmmmm, ....good point :P  winyanstaz   Jun-27-09 11:44 PM   #106 
  - This bill is b.s.  pjt7   Jun-27-09 07:11 PM   #78 
  - A lot of people  ProSense   Jun-27-09 07:22 PM   #82 
  - Dennis has one thing that very few politicians hold - my TRUST  debbierlus   Jun-27-09 07:26 PM   #83 
  - For everyone who is opposed to a cap and trade program  XemaSab   Jun-27-09 07:40 PM   #91 
  - Because that robs them of an opportunity to be outraged.  ProSense   Jun-27-09 09:26 PM   #98 
  - I thought of him immediately when the vote came down...  femrap   Jun-27-09 10:32 PM   #102 
  - waiting to see how the senate goes  madville   Jun-27-09 11:25 PM   #103 
  - I like Kucinich.  Beacool   Jun-27-09 11:26 PM   #104 
  - web-sites  thread-bear   Jun-27-09 11:37 PM   #105 
  - I doubt it  northernlights   Jun-28-09 03:02 AM   #119 
  - Rep. Kucinich is a real national treasure.  totodeinhere   Jun-27-09 11:59 PM   #108 
  - I would think politics with anyone else  DissedByBush   Jun-27-09 11:59 PM   #109 
  - Well Kucinich usually knows what he is talkgin about. I've never been a fan of Cap and Trade.  pam4water   Jun-28-09 12:50 AM   #113 
  - This is a Must Read  pjt7   Jun-28-09 06:45 AM   #123 
  - the unfortunate truth about kucinich  griloco   Jun-28-09 09:21 AM   #127 

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