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173. Time for internet prescriptions and overnight delivery
A great money-making opportunity.
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  -Should pharmacists be able to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions? BolivarianHero  Jun-24-09 06:52 PM   #0 
  - NO!!  blaze   Jun-24-09 06:54 PM   #1 
  - Absofuckinglutely not, indeed! If you can't do the job you agreed to, GET ANOTHER ONE!  Zhade   Jun-25-09 06:38 PM   #149 
  - No. I agree with you completely.  Hekate   Jun-24-09 06:54 PM   #2 
  - Absolutely not. Their job isn't to impose their own moral code on  annabanana   Jun-24-09 06:54 PM   #3 
  - My wife chimed in with a GREAT solution!  FormerDittoHead   Jun-25-09 08:10 AM   #130 
     - Based on your prior post (#10) that approach would be imposed even if they did  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 10:20 AM   #133 
     - Ooops. I forgot to block you. Sorry.  FormerDittoHead   Jun-25-09 02:56 PM   #137 
     - Seems Unlikely To Be Enforceable  ProfessorGAC   Jun-26-09 12:35 PM   #165 
        - It is the law here in CT  NewJeffCT   Jun-26-09 01:19 PM   #175 
           - Must dispense or must carry? Is it only Plan B or does it include other meds?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:20 PM   #181 
           - I've Heard Of That  ProfessorGAC   Jun-26-09 06:51 PM   #188 
              - Found something on this in Google with WalMart  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 07:03 PM   #190 
                 - May Be So. But, I Don't Buy It  ProfessorGAC   Jun-28-09 12:10 PM   #191 
  - I completely agree  SoCalNative   Jun-24-09 06:54 PM   #4 
  - I say no even if they own the store.  FormerDittoHead   Jun-24-09 07:00 PM   #10 
     - By your logic vegan restaurants will have to serve steak...  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:07 PM   #15 
        - Comparing a pharmacy and legal prescriptions with a restaurant is a poor comparison  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:09 PM   #17 
        - Its more than an adequate comparision...there is no basis to compel a business to carry particular  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:10 PM   #18 
           - Ummm..  BolivarianHero   Jun-24-09 07:15 PM   #25 
           - I would suggest you change your subject line before it is deleted. Hate to lose this message....  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:22 PM   #33 
           - Indeed  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:24 PM   #36 
           - You are wrong. Pharmacies have regulations that restaurants don't have  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:21 PM   #32 
           - The regulations and licesnes are irrelevant, the issue is if the state will require pharmacies to  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:37 PM   #50 
              - Pharmacy being required to fill an insulin Rx = OB/gyn being required to do an abortion  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:52 PM   #67 
                 - Same general legal principle  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:54 PM   #69 
                    - Thank you for being so clear on how you believe. It helps us understand you better  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:59 PM   #72 
                    - And I mine  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:53 PM   #94 
                    - No It Isn't  ProfessorGAC   Jun-26-09 12:39 PM   #168 
                       - Consider the following  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:23 PM   #183 
           - Actually it's a piss poor comparison  Raineyb   Jun-24-09 07:35 PM   #46 
           - Its called reducto absurdum...and its clearly effective  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:38 PM   #52 
              - it's clearly absurd  varelse   Jun-24-09 07:42 PM   #58 
                 - yup. eom  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:46 PM   #63 
           - The analogy is completely incorrect..  crimsonblue   Jun-24-09 07:44 PM   #61 
           - Actually in the general context it is valid  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:50 PM   #93 
              - Not really.  Maru Kitteh   Jun-25-09 01:20 AM   #127 
                 - Its holding up quite well  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 01:34 AM   #129 
                    - Your mere assertion that it's holding up is belied by the fact that it's been ripped to shreds.  Zhade   Jun-25-09 06:41 PM   #150 
                       - Lets take a look at the general case of which this is a specific  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 09:32 PM   #152 
           - What if they were against penicillin?  Canuckistanian   Jun-24-09 11:11 PM   #102 
           - Nice theoretical and the answer is no...its also a flawed scenario  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:29 AM   #114 
              - flawed scenario and is this one of the places you "repeatedly state"  uppityperson   Jun-25-09 01:10 AM   #122 
                 - Try the posts referenced that introduced that to the thread that way early on  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 01:19 AM   #126 
           - It's a ludicrous comparison.  readmoreoften   Jun-26-09 12:30 PM   #162 
              - Actually its a reducto absurdum approach. Consider the following...  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:23 PM   #184 
        - You're a professor?  BolivarianHero   Jun-24-09 07:12 PM   #21 
        - Its called choice, maybe you have heard of it  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:18 PM   #28 
           - I think you are confusing a pharmacy with a drug store.  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:24 PM   #35 
           - Not at all  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:31 PM   #44 
              - As someone posted below... and no, restaurant does not = pharmacy  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:37 PM   #48 
                 - You miss the basic point...only if they stock it  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:39 PM   #54 
                    - Is a pharmacy required to stock any hypertension medication?  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:46 PM   #62 
                       - No it is not. Nor blood thinners or beta blockers  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:52 PM   #68 
                          - bwahahahaha. You almost had me believing you until you posted this  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 08:00 PM   #73 
                             - Actually its quite correct...legally they have no obligation to stock any of the items listed  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:10 PM   #76 
                                - What if it IS in stock, and the pharmacist refuses to fill the Rx? Read for content  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 11:04 PM   #99 
                                   - I have repeatedly answered that in the affirmative...but in other posts you and others claim  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:06 AM   #107 
           - someone is really clueless  Ocracoker16   Jun-24-09 07:41 PM   #56 
           - False as to fact  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:51 PM   #64 
              - False as to fact  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 07:56 PM   #71 
                 - Actually the kernel of the issue is can a business be forced to carry particular products  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:09 PM   #75 
                    - good grief. You want totally the same laws on every type of business & now call O16 delusional  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 08:16 PM   #78 
                       - Please read for content  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:26 PM   #84 
                          - Bull. Shit. What you are posting is obvious.  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 08:29 PM   #85 
                             - At least you admit you have not been making original points nor considering other posters points  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:34 PM   #89 
                                - You are something. I can't say what, but something  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 08:42 PM   #92 
           - It is called a strawman. OP was "Should pharmacists be able to refuse to fill birth control prescrip  uppityperson   Jun-24-09 11:06 PM   #100 
           - I have repeated answered that in the affirmative...but in other posts you and other claim  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 11:57 PM   #105 
              - You mean in posts 114 and 115? But yours here is post 105. Odd  uppityperson   Jun-25-09 01:13 AM   #123 
                 - How about as far back as post 12  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 10:12 AM   #131 
           - If a medicine is prescribed by a doctor, in Connecticut  NewJeffCT   Jun-26-09 01:27 PM   #176 
              - That is cleary shall dispense, what if the medication is not carried by the pharmacy?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:22 PM   #182 
        - Steak isn't prescribed by medical doctors for medical reasons.  Bunny   Jun-24-09 07:14 PM   #24 
        - Actually meat can and has been prescribed/advised in the past  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:21 PM   #31 
        - And if you go to a vegan restaraunt looking for steak, you're an idiot.  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-24-09 08:35 PM   #90 
        - But hopefully they have good portabella mushrooms  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:38 PM   #91 
        - There is a difference between steak and medicine  EndersDame   Jun-25-09 12:16 AM   #109 
        - It comparable in the general case, lets look at it and the specifics  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:40 AM   #115 
        - Uh, you don't actually think that's analogous, do you?  konnichi wa   Jun-25-09 10:16 AM   #132 
        - It is in the general case  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 06:30 PM   #147 
        - Vegan restaurants proudly proclaim themselves as such. Fundie pharmacies should be required  KittyWampus   Jun-25-09 05:05 PM   #142 
        - So filling a Medicare perscription would trigger a requirement to carry a certain set of meds?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 06:33 PM   #148 
           - a common perscription like birth control pills that are essential to thousands in a community?  KittyWampus   Jun-26-09 12:13 PM   #161 
              - Are you willing to require similar kinds of actions from other providers of goods and services  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:05 PM   #178 
        - Steak is not a medical treatment  havocmom   Jun-25-09 09:40 PM   #154 
           - No, just using an absurd example to show just how absurd some of the posts are  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 10:04 PM   #156 
              - Yours in particular  havocmom   Jun-25-09 10:08 PM   #159 
                 - How so? Do you support "must carry" for pharmacies?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 10:09 PM   #160 
  - Absolutely....  Liberal Veteran   Jun-24-09 06:56 PM   #5 
  - Self delete - posted wrong spot...  Junkdrawer   Jun-24-09 06:59 PM   #8 
  - Of course not !?  MNDemNY   Jun-24-09 06:56 PM   #6 
  - No  me b zola   Jun-24-09 06:57 PM   #7 
  - ABSOLUTELY NOT  Skittles   Jun-24-09 07:00 PM   #9 
  - Sure..and any yahoo with a gun can kill abortionists...  Junkdrawer   Jun-24-09 07:00 PM   #11 
  - Sometimes...  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:02 PM   #12 
  - Should vegetarian pizza delivery people be able to refuse to deliver meat pizzas?  ZombieHorde   Jun-24-09 07:02 PM   #13 
  - Absolutely.  Ikonoklast   Jun-24-09 07:04 PM   #14 
  - Should a vegan restaurant have to serve meat?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:07 PM   #16 
  - NO , but they should eat some if they want to get laid.  imdjh   Jun-24-09 07:12 PM   #22 
  - Hey neither me nor my husband eat meat...  a la izquierda   Jun-25-09 05:01 PM   #140 
  - What if it's the only phamacy available? nt  blaze   Jun-24-09 07:16 PM   #27 
  - That is about the only valid issue here WRT to compelling a business to carry particular products  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:42 PM   #57 
  - No. Why would you ask such a useless question?  Ikonoklast   Jun-24-09 07:51 PM   #66 
     - To point out the absurd nature of what some are proposing  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:16 PM   #79 
        - You are changing the question, but you know that.  Ikonoklast   Jun-24-09 08:20 PM   #81 
           - You and I are in agreement  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:32 PM   #87 
  - That is how I feel about it. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-24-09 07:29 PM   # 
  - There was a cashier at Winn Dixie who refused to touch meat packages  imdjh   Jun-24-09 07:11 PM   #19 
  - Funny. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-24-09 07:29 PM   #43 
  - Beautiful ................  Tangerine LaBamba   Jun-24-09 07:39 PM   #53 
  - They should find another chain to work at that would better suit their morality  EndersDame   Jun-25-09 12:17 AM   #111 
  - should i be able to refuse to sell someone any meat or eggs or milk  ejpoeta   Jun-24-09 07:11 PM   #20 
  - No  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-24-09 07:13 PM   #23 
  - No, absolutely not. n/t  Scout   Jun-24-09 07:15 PM   #26 
  - Not just NO, FUCK NO  Warpy   Jun-24-09 07:19 PM   #29 
  - NO - agree with you - if they can't do their job, get out of the field. eom  lukasahero   Jun-24-09 07:20 PM   #30 
  - I agree with you  JerseygirlCT   Jun-24-09 07:23 PM   #34 
  - Should Vegan Waiters be able to refuse to serve meat?  WeDidIt   Jun-24-09 07:24 PM   #37 
  - Not the same issue at all  blaze   Jun-24-09 07:29 PM   #42 
  - Have an example where that is true?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:01 PM   #74 
     - I live in Waco and beg to differ  EndersDame   Jun-25-09 12:23 AM   #113 
        - So there is no pharmacy dispensing birth control in the other 5 counties?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:48 AM   #116 
           - Wait, if you don't have a car, you're supposed to drive to another COUNTY to get your medicine?  readmoreoften   Jun-26-09 01:05 PM   #171 
              - Actually I am not sure what he means  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:15 PM   #179 
  - I used to work with several veggie waiters who served meat.  EndersDame   Jun-25-09 12:19 AM   #112 
  - Not even close to comperable.  PeaceNikki   Jun-25-09 05:02 PM   #141 
  - OF COURSE NOT. What? Would they expect to sit on their ass all day?  readmoreoften   Jun-26-09 12:57 PM   #170 
  - No  ismnotwasm   Jun-24-09 07:26 PM   #38 
  - No!  sandyj999   Jun-24-09 07:26 PM   #39 
  - If they own the drug store....if not it's up to their boss, and I won't shop there if they do. nt  recoveringrepublican   Jun-24-09 07:27 PM   #40 
  - Right answer  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:42 PM   #59 
     - Right WING answer.  readmoreoften   Jun-26-09 01:10 PM   #172 
        - How so?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:43 PM   #187 
  - NO! Either do the job they're licensed to do, or revoke their license.  TexasObserver   Jun-24-09 07:28 PM   #41 
  - Actually they should/will be fired. But what if the pharmacy doesn't carry the requested drug?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:12 PM   #77 
     - Then the pharmacy is required to order it  TorchTheWitch   Jun-25-09 12:58 AM   #119 
        - Required by whom?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 01:14 AM   #124 
           - birth control pills are extremely common. It is totally unreasonable to believe a pharmacy wouldn't  KittyWampus   Jun-25-09 05:11 PM   #143 
              - The prior poster said *required* vice should/would, a critical distinction  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 05:27 PM   #145 
  - there are legitimate reasons for refusing to fill prescriptions  fishwax   Jun-24-09 07:33 PM   #45 
  - Not unless there is a colleague nearby who can & will the prescription.  Vidar   Jun-24-09 07:36 PM   #47 
  - What if the pharmcy does not stock the requested drug?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 07:55 PM   #70 
     - Sue them, fine them, close them down--whatever you prefer  Vidar   Jun-24-09 08:19 PM   #80 
     - not keeping something in stock is not the same as refusing to fill a prescription  fizzgig   Jun-24-09 08:23 PM   #83 
        - Not everyone is...some claim that the pharmacy must carry certain drugs. See posts  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-24-09 08:31 PM   #86 
  - No. If they can't do their job they need to find another line of work. nt  Flying Dream Blues   Jun-24-09 07:37 PM   #49 
  - HELL NO!  earth mom   Jun-24-09 07:38 PM   #51 
  - No  NMMNG   Jun-24-09 07:40 PM   #55 
  - No.  BlooInBloo   Jun-24-09 07:43 PM   #60 
  - If the pharmacist's belief was that the world was overpopulated  DefenseLawyer   Jun-24-09 07:51 PM   #65 
  - No, they should not.  Starry Messenger   Jun-24-09 08:22 PM   #82 
  - If you don't want to fill prescriptions, don't be a fucking pharmacist  Sebastian Doyle   Jun-24-09 08:33 PM   #88 
  - my favorite answer. Tip to others: don't feed the assholes. Shit only comes OUT of them...n/t  FormerDittoHead   Jun-24-09 09:11 PM   #95 
  - Let me help out the failed "should a vegan..." responses with a proper one  flvegan   Jun-24-09 09:15 PM   #96 
  - Thanks flvegan. +1. I love how this RW argument is couched in terms of "defending vegan workers."  readmoreoften   Jun-26-09 01:14 PM   #174 
     - You have not been following similar issues in other areas  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:54 PM   #189 
  - Absolutely not. They have no right to force their religious beliefs on the customers.  Cass   Jun-24-09 09:22 PM   #97 
  - I may be wrong  subcomhd   Jun-24-09 09:54 PM   #98 
     - The "shall carry" is a subset of the "shall dispense" controversy  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 01:03 AM   #120 
        - Nearest Walmart to me is over an hour's drive away. 2 hours on a bus.  uppityperson   Jun-25-09 01:15 AM   #125 
        - I am in damn near nowhere and ride past a Wal-Mart every time I want to go anywhere  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 01:29 AM   #128 
        - Nope, we kept Rite Aid out of town with a lot of work.  uppityperson   Jun-25-09 09:53 PM   #155 
           - So all you have in a reasonable radius from your abode is mom and pop pharmacies?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 10:06 PM   #157 
        - Yes, count yourself lucky  subcomhd   Jun-25-09 04:43 PM   #139 
        - Never Knew that PP  subcomhd   Jun-25-09 04:42 PM   #138 
  - Yes...  armyowalgreens   Jun-24-09 11:06 PM   #101 
  - No, because they are used for more than just birth control.  Lyric   Jun-24-09 11:18 PM   #103 
  - I agree with you  Stargazer09   Jun-25-09 05:40 PM   #146 
  - Yep, I was taking them for severe hormonal disturbances  pipi_k   Jun-26-09 01:34 PM   #177 
  - Call a waahmbulance. Someone got pwned, and it wasn't the professor, who has the patience of a saint  timeforpeace   Jun-24-09 11:27 PM   #104 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-09 12:37 PM   #167 
  - That happened here in NH and I was tempted to drive there and beat the crap out of the pharmacist  HughMoran   Jun-25-09 12:02 AM   #106 
  - Would he/she not dispense it or was it not carried?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:11 AM   #108 
     - Refused to dispense I think  HughMoran   Jun-25-09 12:16 AM   #110 
        - Got feathers?  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-25-09 12:53 AM   #117 
  - NO. And I can't believe - in 2009 - that this is still even a question - anywhere!  Maru Kitteh   Jun-25-09 12:56 AM   #118 
  - Absolutely not.  sakabatou   Jun-25-09 01:06 AM   #121 
  - HELL NO--if they don't like it have em work in an old folks home  dembotoz   Jun-25-09 10:30 AM   #134 
  - No...  SidDithers   Jun-25-09 10:47 AM   #135 
  - Absolutely not.  hamsterjill   Jun-25-09 11:15 AM   #136 
  - No.  kenny blankenship   Jun-25-09 05:14 PM   #144 
  - If you can't fulfill the requirements of your job, you find another line of work.  AngryOldDem   Jun-25-09 06:47 PM   #151 
  - If I work at Home Depot, should I be able to refuse to ring up Roundup?  Matariki   Jun-25-09 09:37 PM   #153 
  - I agree with you  ibegurpard   Jun-25-09 10:07 PM   #158 
  - Only if they agree to support the children born as a result of their refusal.  Vinca   Jun-26-09 12:31 PM   #163 
  - No.  ProfessorGAC   Jun-26-09 12:33 PM   #164 
  - most succinct comment on this issue i've ever seen posted.  Scout   Jun-26-09 12:36 PM   #166 
     - Thanks  ProfessorGAC   Jun-26-09 12:40 PM   #169 
  - Time for internet prescriptions and overnight delivery  cagesoulman   Jun-26-09 01:13 PM   #173 
  - I am forced to use such a service by my insurance provider  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-26-09 06:18 PM   #180 
  - I agree. If their religious beliefs are in conflict with their professional  Cleita   Jun-26-09 06:24 PM   #185 
  - no  handmade34   Jun-26-09 06:32 PM   #186 
 

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