| 11. Sure..and any yahoo with a gun can kill abortionists... |
|
The laws of God supersede the laws of...Oh, wait...this ISN'T Iran...
Nevermind...
|
| -Should pharmacists be able to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions? |
BolivarianHero |
Jun-24-09 06:52 PM |
#0 |
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NO!! |
blaze |
Jun-24-09 06:54 PM |
#1 |
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Absofuckinglutely not, indeed! If you can't do the job you agreed to, GET ANOTHER ONE! |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 06:38 PM |
#149 |
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No. I agree with you completely. |
Hekate |
Jun-24-09 06:54 PM |
#2 |
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Absolutely not. Their job isn't to impose their own moral code on |
annabanana |
Jun-24-09 06:54 PM |
#3 |
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My wife chimed in with a GREAT solution! |
FormerDittoHead |
Jun-25-09 08:10 AM |
#130 |
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Based on your prior post (#10) that approach would be imposed even if they did |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 10:20 AM |
#133 |
| -
Ooops. I forgot to block you. Sorry. |
FormerDittoHead |
Jun-25-09 02:56 PM |
#137 |
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Seems Unlikely To Be Enforceable |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-26-09 12:35 PM |
#165 |
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It is the law here in CT |
NewJeffCT |
Jun-26-09 01:19 PM |
#175 |
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Must dispense or must carry? Is it only Plan B or does it include other meds? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:20 PM |
#181 |
| -
I've Heard Of That |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-26-09 06:51 PM |
#188 |
| -
Found something on this in Google with WalMart |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 07:03 PM |
#190 |
| -
May Be So. But, I Don't Buy It |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-28-09 12:10 PM |
#191 |
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I completely agree |
SoCalNative |
Jun-24-09 06:54 PM |
#4 |
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I say no even if they own the store. |
FormerDittoHead |
Jun-24-09 07:00 PM |
#10 |
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By your logic vegan restaurants will have to serve steak... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:07 PM |
#15 |
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Comparing a pharmacy and legal prescriptions with a restaurant is a poor comparison |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:09 PM |
#17 |
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Its more than an adequate comparision...there is no basis to compel a business to carry particular |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:10 PM |
#18 |
| -
Ummm.. |
BolivarianHero |
Jun-24-09 07:15 PM |
#25 |
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I would suggest you change your subject line before it is deleted. Hate to lose this message.... |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:22 PM |
#33 |
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Indeed |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:24 PM |
#36 |
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You are wrong. Pharmacies have regulations that restaurants don't have |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:21 PM |
#32 |
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The regulations and licesnes are irrelevant, the issue is if the state will require pharmacies to |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:37 PM |
#50 |
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Pharmacy being required to fill an insulin Rx = OB/gyn being required to do an abortion |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:52 PM |
#67 |
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Same general legal principle |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:54 PM |
#69 |
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Thank you for being so clear on how you believe. It helps us understand you better |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:59 PM |
#72 |
| -
And I mine |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:53 PM |
#94 |
| -
No It Isn't |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-26-09 12:39 PM |
#168 |
| -
Consider the following |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:23 PM |
#183 |
| -
Actually it's a piss poor comparison |
Raineyb |
Jun-24-09 07:35 PM |
#46 |
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Its called reducto absurdum...and its clearly effective |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:38 PM |
#52 |
| -
it's clearly absurd |
varelse |
Jun-24-09 07:42 PM |
#58 |
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yup. eom |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:46 PM |
#63 |
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The analogy is completely incorrect.. |
crimsonblue |
Jun-24-09 07:44 PM |
#61 |
| -
Actually in the general context it is valid |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:50 PM |
#93 |
| -
Not really. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-25-09 01:20 AM |
#127 |
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Its holding up quite well |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 01:34 AM |
#129 |
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Your mere assertion that it's holding up is belied by the fact that it's been ripped to shreds. |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 06:41 PM |
#150 |
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Lets take a look at the general case of which this is a specific |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 09:32 PM |
#152 |
| -
What if they were against penicillin? |
Canuckistanian |
Jun-24-09 11:11 PM |
#102 |
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Nice theoretical and the answer is no...its also a flawed scenario |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:29 AM |
#114 |
| -
flawed scenario and is this one of the places you "repeatedly state" |
uppityperson |
Jun-25-09 01:10 AM |
#122 |
| -
Try the posts referenced that introduced that to the thread that way early on |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 01:19 AM |
#126 |
| -
It's a ludicrous comparison. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-26-09 12:30 PM |
#162 |
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Actually its a reducto absurdum approach. Consider the following... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:23 PM |
#184 |
| -
You're a professor? |
BolivarianHero |
Jun-24-09 07:12 PM |
#21 |
| -
Its called choice, maybe you have heard of it |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:18 PM |
#28 |
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I think you are confusing a pharmacy with a drug store. |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:24 PM |
#35 |
| -
Not at all |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:31 PM |
#44 |
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As someone posted below... and no, restaurant does not = pharmacy |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:37 PM |
#48 |
| -
You miss the basic point...only if they stock it |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:39 PM |
#54 |
| -
Is a pharmacy required to stock any hypertension medication? |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:46 PM |
#62 |
| -
No it is not. Nor blood thinners or beta blockers |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:52 PM |
#68 |
| -
bwahahahaha. You almost had me believing you until you posted this |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 08:00 PM |
#73 |
| -
Actually its quite correct...legally they have no obligation to stock any of the items listed |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:10 PM |
#76 |
| -
What if it IS in stock, and the pharmacist refuses to fill the Rx? Read for content |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 11:04 PM |
#99 |
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I have repeatedly answered that in the affirmative...but in other posts you and others claim |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:06 AM |
#107 |
| -
someone is really clueless |
Ocracoker16 |
Jun-24-09 07:41 PM |
#56 |
| -
False as to fact |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:51 PM |
#64 |
| -
False as to fact |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 07:56 PM |
#71 |
| -
Actually the kernel of the issue is can a business be forced to carry particular products |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:09 PM |
#75 |
| -
good grief. You want totally the same laws on every type of business & now call O16 delusional |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 08:16 PM |
#78 |
| -
Please read for content |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:26 PM |
#84 |
| -
Bull. Shit. What you are posting is obvious. |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 08:29 PM |
#85 |
| -
At least you admit you have not been making original points nor considering other posters points |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:34 PM |
#89 |
| -
You are something. I can't say what, but something |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 08:42 PM |
#92 |
| -
It is called a strawman. OP was "Should pharmacists be able to refuse to fill birth control prescrip |
uppityperson |
Jun-24-09 11:06 PM |
#100 |
| -
I have repeated answered that in the affirmative...but in other posts you and other claim |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 11:57 PM |
#105 |
| -
You mean in posts 114 and 115? But yours here is post 105. Odd |
uppityperson |
Jun-25-09 01:13 AM |
#123 |
| -
How about as far back as post 12 |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 10:12 AM |
#131 |
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If a medicine is prescribed by a doctor, in Connecticut |
NewJeffCT |
Jun-26-09 01:27 PM |
#176 |
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That is cleary shall dispense, what if the medication is not carried by the pharmacy? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:22 PM |
#182 |
| -
Steak isn't prescribed by medical doctors for medical reasons. |
Bunny |
Jun-24-09 07:14 PM |
#24 |
| -
Actually meat can and has been prescribed/advised in the past |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:21 PM |
#31 |
| -
And if you go to a vegan restaraunt looking for steak, you're an idiot. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-24-09 08:35 PM |
#90 |
| -
But hopefully they have good portabella mushrooms |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:38 PM |
#91 |
| -
There is a difference between steak and medicine |
EndersDame |
Jun-25-09 12:16 AM |
#109 |
| -
It comparable in the general case, lets look at it and the specifics |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:40 AM |
#115 |
| -
Uh, you don't actually think that's analogous, do you? |
konnichi wa |
Jun-25-09 10:16 AM |
#132 |
| -
It is in the general case |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 06:30 PM |
#147 |
| -
Vegan restaurants proudly proclaim themselves as such. Fundie pharmacies should be required |
KittyWampus |
Jun-25-09 05:05 PM |
#142 |
| -
So filling a Medicare perscription would trigger a requirement to carry a certain set of meds? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 06:33 PM |
#148 |
| -
a common perscription like birth control pills that are essential to thousands in a community? |
KittyWampus |
Jun-26-09 12:13 PM |
#161 |
| -
Are you willing to require similar kinds of actions from other providers of goods and services |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:05 PM |
#178 |
| -
Steak is not a medical treatment |
havocmom |
Jun-25-09 09:40 PM |
#154 |
| -
No, just using an absurd example to show just how absurd some of the posts are |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 10:04 PM |
#156 |
| -
Yours in particular |
havocmom |
Jun-25-09 10:08 PM |
#159 |
| -
How so? Do you support "must carry" for pharmacies? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 10:09 PM |
#160 |
| -
Absolutely.... |
Liberal Veteran |
Jun-24-09 06:56 PM |
#5 |
| -
Self delete - posted wrong spot... |
Junkdrawer |
Jun-24-09 06:59 PM |
#8 |
| -
Of course not !? |
MNDemNY |
Jun-24-09 06:56 PM |
#6 |
| -
No |
me b zola |
Jun-24-09 06:57 PM |
#7 |
| -
ABSOLUTELY NOT |
Skittles |
Jun-24-09 07:00 PM |
#9 |
| -
Sure..and any yahoo with a gun can kill abortionists... |
Junkdrawer |
Jun-24-09 07:00 PM |
#11 |
| -
Sometimes... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:02 PM |
#12 |
| -
Should vegetarian pizza delivery people be able to refuse to deliver meat pizzas? |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-24-09 07:02 PM |
#13 |
| -
Absolutely. |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-24-09 07:04 PM |
#14 |
| -
Should a vegan restaurant have to serve meat? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:07 PM |
#16 |
| -
NO , but they should eat some if they want to get laid. |
imdjh |
Jun-24-09 07:12 PM |
#22 |
| -
Hey neither me nor my husband eat meat... |
a la izquierda |
Jun-25-09 05:01 PM |
#140 |
| -
What if it's the only phamacy available? nt |
blaze |
Jun-24-09 07:16 PM |
#27 |
| -
That is about the only valid issue here WRT to compelling a business to carry particular products |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:42 PM |
#57 |
| -
No. Why would you ask such a useless question? |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-24-09 07:51 PM |
#66 |
| -
To point out the absurd nature of what some are proposing |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:16 PM |
#79 |
| -
You are changing the question, but you know that. |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-24-09 08:20 PM |
#81 |
| -
You and I are in agreement |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:32 PM |
#87 |
| -
That is how I feel about it. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-24-09 07:29 PM |
# |
| -
There was a cashier at Winn Dixie who refused to touch meat packages |
imdjh |
Jun-24-09 07:11 PM |
#19 |
| -
Funny. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-24-09 07:29 PM |
#43 |
| -
Beautiful ................ |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Jun-24-09 07:39 PM |
#53 |
| -
They should find another chain to work at that would better suit their morality |
EndersDame |
Jun-25-09 12:17 AM |
#111 |
| -
should i be able to refuse to sell someone any meat or eggs or milk |
ejpoeta |
Jun-24-09 07:11 PM |
#20 |
| -
No |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-24-09 07:13 PM |
#23 |
| -
No, absolutely not. n/t |
Scout |
Jun-24-09 07:15 PM |
#26 |
| -
Not just NO, FUCK NO |
Warpy |
Jun-24-09 07:19 PM |
#29 |
| -
NO - agree with you - if they can't do their job, get out of the field. eom |
lukasahero |
Jun-24-09 07:20 PM |
#30 |
| -
I agree with you |
JerseygirlCT |
Jun-24-09 07:23 PM |
#34 |
| -
Should Vegan Waiters be able to refuse to serve meat? |
WeDidIt |
Jun-24-09 07:24 PM |
#37 |
| -
Not the same issue at all |
blaze |
Jun-24-09 07:29 PM |
#42 |
| -
Have an example where that is true? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:01 PM |
#74 |
| -
I live in Waco and beg to differ |
EndersDame |
Jun-25-09 12:23 AM |
#113 |
| -
So there is no pharmacy dispensing birth control in the other 5 counties? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:48 AM |
#116 |
| -
Wait, if you don't have a car, you're supposed to drive to another COUNTY to get your medicine? |
readmoreoften |
Jun-26-09 01:05 PM |
#171 |
| -
Actually I am not sure what he means |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:15 PM |
#179 |
| -
I used to work with several veggie waiters who served meat. |
EndersDame |
Jun-25-09 12:19 AM |
#112 |
| -
Not even close to comperable. |
PeaceNikki |
Jun-25-09 05:02 PM |
#141 |
| -
OF COURSE NOT. What? Would they expect to sit on their ass all day? |
readmoreoften |
Jun-26-09 12:57 PM |
#170 |
| -
No |
ismnotwasm |
Jun-24-09 07:26 PM |
#38 |
| -
No! |
sandyj999 |
Jun-24-09 07:26 PM |
#39 |
| -
If they own the drug store....if not it's up to their boss, and I won't shop there if they do. nt |
recoveringrepublican |
Jun-24-09 07:27 PM |
#40 |
| -
Right answer |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:42 PM |
#59 |
| -
Right WING answer. |
readmoreoften |
Jun-26-09 01:10 PM |
#172 |
| -
How so? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:43 PM |
#187 |
| -
NO! Either do the job they're licensed to do, or revoke their license. |
TexasObserver |
Jun-24-09 07:28 PM |
#41 |
| -
Actually they should/will be fired. But what if the pharmacy doesn't carry the requested drug? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:12 PM |
#77 |
| -
Then the pharmacy is required to order it |
TorchTheWitch |
Jun-25-09 12:58 AM |
#119 |
| -
Required by whom? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 01:14 AM |
#124 |
| -
birth control pills are extremely common. It is totally unreasonable to believe a pharmacy wouldn't |
KittyWampus |
Jun-25-09 05:11 PM |
#143 |
| -
The prior poster said *required* vice should/would, a critical distinction |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 05:27 PM |
#145 |
| -
there are legitimate reasons for refusing to fill prescriptions |
fishwax |
Jun-24-09 07:33 PM |
#45 |
| -
Not unless there is a colleague nearby who can & will the prescription. |
Vidar |
Jun-24-09 07:36 PM |
#47 |
| -
What if the pharmcy does not stock the requested drug? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 07:55 PM |
#70 |
| -
Sue them, fine them, close them down--whatever you prefer |
Vidar |
Jun-24-09 08:19 PM |
#80 |
| -
not keeping something in stock is not the same as refusing to fill a prescription |
fizzgig |
Jun-24-09 08:23 PM |
#83 |
| -
Not everyone is...some claim that the pharmacy must carry certain drugs. See posts |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-24-09 08:31 PM |
#86 |
| -
No. If they can't do their job they need to find another line of work. nt |
Flying Dream Blues |
Jun-24-09 07:37 PM |
#49 |
| -
HELL NO! |
earth mom |
Jun-24-09 07:38 PM |
#51 |
| -
No |
NMMNG |
Jun-24-09 07:40 PM |
#55 |
| -
No. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-24-09 07:43 PM |
#60 |
| -
If the pharmacist's belief was that the world was overpopulated |
DefenseLawyer |
Jun-24-09 07:51 PM |
#65 |
| -
No, they should not. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-24-09 08:22 PM |
#82 |
| -
If you don't want to fill prescriptions, don't be a fucking pharmacist |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-24-09 08:33 PM |
#88 |
| -
my favorite answer. Tip to others: don't feed the assholes. Shit only comes OUT of them...n/t |
FormerDittoHead |
Jun-24-09 09:11 PM |
#95 |
| -
Let me help out the failed "should a vegan..." responses with a proper one |
flvegan |
Jun-24-09 09:15 PM |
#96 |
| -
Thanks flvegan. +1. I love how this RW argument is couched in terms of "defending vegan workers." |
readmoreoften |
Jun-26-09 01:14 PM |
#174 |
| -
You have not been following similar issues in other areas |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:54 PM |
#189 |
| -
Absolutely not. They have no right to force their religious beliefs on the customers. |
Cass |
Jun-24-09 09:22 PM |
#97 |
| -
I may be wrong |
subcomhd |
Jun-24-09 09:54 PM |
#98 |
| -
The "shall carry" is a subset of the "shall dispense" controversy |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 01:03 AM |
#120 |
| -
Nearest Walmart to me is over an hour's drive away. 2 hours on a bus. |
uppityperson |
Jun-25-09 01:15 AM |
#125 |
| -
I am in damn near nowhere and ride past a Wal-Mart every time I want to go anywhere |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 01:29 AM |
#128 |
| -
Nope, we kept Rite Aid out of town with a lot of work. |
uppityperson |
Jun-25-09 09:53 PM |
#155 |
| -
So all you have in a reasonable radius from your abode is mom and pop pharmacies? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 10:06 PM |
#157 |
| -
Yes, count yourself lucky |
subcomhd |
Jun-25-09 04:43 PM |
#139 |
| -
Never Knew that PP |
subcomhd |
Jun-25-09 04:42 PM |
#138 |
| -
Yes... |
armyowalgreens |
Jun-24-09 11:06 PM |
#101 |
| -
No, because they are used for more than just birth control. |
Lyric |
Jun-24-09 11:18 PM |
#103 |
| -
I agree with you |
Stargazer09 |
Jun-25-09 05:40 PM |
#146 |
| -
Yep, I was taking them for severe hormonal disturbances |
pipi_k |
Jun-26-09 01:34 PM |
#177 |
| -
Call a waahmbulance. Someone got pwned, and it wasn't the professor, who has the patience of a saint |
timeforpeace |
Jun-24-09 11:27 PM |
#104 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-26-09 12:37 PM |
#167 |
| -
That happened here in NH and I was tempted to drive there and beat the crap out of the pharmacist |
HughMoran |
Jun-25-09 12:02 AM |
#106 |
| -
Would he/she not dispense it or was it not carried? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:11 AM |
#108 |
| -
Refused to dispense I think |
HughMoran |
Jun-25-09 12:16 AM |
#110 |
| -
Got feathers? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-25-09 12:53 AM |
#117 |
| -
NO. And I can't believe - in 2009 - that this is still even a question - anywhere! |
Maru Kitteh |
Jun-25-09 12:56 AM |
#118 |
| -
Absolutely not. |
sakabatou |
Jun-25-09 01:06 AM |
#121 |
| -
HELL NO--if they don't like it have em work in an old folks home |
dembotoz |
Jun-25-09 10:30 AM |
#134 |
| -
No... |
SidDithers |
Jun-25-09 10:47 AM |
#135 |
| -
Absolutely not. |
hamsterjill |
Jun-25-09 11:15 AM |
#136 |
| -
No. |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-25-09 05:14 PM |
#144 |
| -
If you can't fulfill the requirements of your job, you find another line of work. |
AngryOldDem |
Jun-25-09 06:47 PM |
#151 |
| -
If I work at Home Depot, should I be able to refuse to ring up Roundup? |
Matariki |
Jun-25-09 09:37 PM |
#153 |
| -
I agree with you |
ibegurpard |
Jun-25-09 10:07 PM |
#158 |
| -
Only if they agree to support the children born as a result of their refusal. |
Vinca |
Jun-26-09 12:31 PM |
#163 |
| -
No. |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-26-09 12:33 PM |
#164 |
| -
most succinct comment on this issue i've ever seen posted. |
Scout |
Jun-26-09 12:36 PM |
#166 |
| -
Thanks |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-26-09 12:40 PM |
#169 |
| -
Time for internet prescriptions and overnight delivery |
cagesoulman |
Jun-26-09 01:13 PM |
#173 |
| -
I am forced to use such a service by my insurance provider |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jun-26-09 06:18 PM |
#180 |
| -
I agree. If their religious beliefs are in conflict with their professional |
Cleita |
Jun-26-09 06:24 PM |
#185 |
| -
no |
handmade34 |
Jun-26-09 06:32 PM |
#186 |
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