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Fri Apr-06-07 12:46 PM
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I won't argue with your other points, as they seem valid. You may have your timeline a little skewed, but no big deal. I have not discovered any connection to protecting New York Banks, but i'll concede your point. It was Clinton however, that promoted a Mexican financial bail-out in his 1st term. ( http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_n2600_v1... ) Who knows what would have happened if that had not occurred. I am not Blaming Bill for anything other than perhaps bowing to pressure. The agreement has not lived up to the promises that were made, no doubt. But the fact is, Mexico is a huge trading partner with the US and we need to get the goods in and out of Mexico efficiently. This entire issue has to do with precisely that. The mechanics of how to do it have been hashed out for over 15 years. I liked Bill. Truly. Still do, but i tend to agree with Michael Moore who once said "Bill Clinton was the best Republican President this country has ever had".
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| -Theres' Gonna be a Convoy...Truckers Boycott...This should be fun...! |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 06:47 AM |
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Wonder if the media will cover it? |
Cobalt Violet |
Apr-06-07 06:51 AM |
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National Capital U-Circled; Bumper to Bumper...3 Wide... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 07:09 AM |
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I have a neighbor that drives cross country every week and is home from |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-10-07 06:43 AM |
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TEAMSTERS... HOW DO YOU LIKE NAFTA NOW? |
monktonman |
Apr-06-07 05:23 PM |
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"Gonna be a Convoy" -- and this could be good |
wakeme2008 |
Apr-06-07 06:55 AM |
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They can circle The White House... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Apr-06-07 07:24 AM |
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They need to take a couple of empty trucks |
donheld |
Apr-06-07 07:26 AM |
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Write to your representatives about this |
senseandsensibility |
Apr-06-07 07:07 AM |
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Get thee to the Greatest Page! K&R n/t |
ms liberty |
Apr-06-07 07:21 AM |
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I sez callin' all trucks, this here's The Duck |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 07:25 AM |
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With a thousand screamin' trucks |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 07:30 AM |
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This is the way to hold a protest |
tnlurker |
Apr-06-07 07:34 AM |
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Time to show Bush that truckers can paralyze this country in a matter of days |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 07:35 AM |
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Amen to that! |
mconvente |
Apr-06-07 09:00 AM |
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The Thing About This Is... |
maggiegault |
Apr-06-07 11:44 AM |
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My ex is a Teamster |
Marrah_G |
Apr-06-07 07:37 AM |
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Not harsh enough |
michreject |
Apr-06-07 08:39 AM |
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Idiot son wants to wipe out the trucking industry now. |
bearfan454 |
Apr-06-07 11:28 AM |
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I'm sorry that so many truckers voted for this administration. None of us deserve this. |
SharonAnn |
Apr-06-07 07:47 PM |
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Wow! |
Skidmore |
Apr-06-07 07:37 AM |
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It would work because this is a strike against outsourcing our jobs. |
jwirr |
Apr-06-07 10:40 AM |
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I share the road with lots of vehicles with |
Warpy |
Apr-06-07 07:38 AM |
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Safety IS an issue though |
alarimer |
Apr-06-07 09:25 AM |
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NO-Vehicle safety with Mexican trucks IS a huge problem. |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-06-07 09:59 AM |
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Safety and emissions are both huge issues. |
brg5001 |
Apr-06-07 10:16 AM |
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The amount of cross border freight that is currently Union hauled is minuscule |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 10:33 AM |
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Uh, Duh, that's the whole point. This allows goods to be shipped directly from Manzanitas to Maine. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:15 AM |
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So when that horrible, slimy little Mexican gets to Maine, what do you think he'll do next? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:30 AM |
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There's nothing slimy about it. They are scabs. The Teamsters should be busy |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:42 AM |
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You are either intentionally being obtuse or you just don't understand what is being proposed. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:54 AM |
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Nothing complex about it -- it should be opposed |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 12:07 PM |
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LOL! Ok. Fair enough. A complex issue isn't complex because you say so. You win! |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 12:16 PM |
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I thought it was the I35 corridor? |
gulfcoastliberal |
Apr-06-07 03:33 PM |
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35 is one of them. I 69 is the other major North/South Highway that has been in the works for years |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 04:05 PM |
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So What If It Doesn't Cause A Lot Of Job Losses? |
maggiegault |
Apr-06-07 11:49 AM |
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I don't agree that it is "throwing over American workers" |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:59 AM |
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Whatever. |
maggiegault |
Apr-06-07 12:38 PM |
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I answered that phone call. It was this here link to a USDOT page indicating i know what i am |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 01:20 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-06-07 02:11 PM |
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Heretic do you think all this BS up yourself or does the Comedian Rush L help you? |
Vincardog |
Apr-06-07 02:20 PM |
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No. I don't need help. I have an agenda. Can't you see that? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 04:01 PM |
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Have you heard of the Trans Texas Corridor? |
Vincardog |
Apr-06-07 10:02 PM |
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I've driven on it. What's your point? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 12:42 AM |
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You have not driven on it. It is only a plan now. The "plan" is to give |
Vincardog |
Apr-07-07 03:05 PM |
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Correctomundo... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-07-07 03:52 PM |
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Actually, I have driven on it. I have driven the roads that are the proposed right-of-way |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 08:47 PM |
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I forgot I 5. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-08-07 09:49 AM |
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I neglected a few points in my 1st reply..... |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 09:42 PM |
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'American Truckers will be able to deliver goods to the factories in Mexico.' |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-07-07 12:22 AM |
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All three? You mean the three on the right side of the street? Or on the left? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 12:41 AM |
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Marx is smiling |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-07 12:03 PM |
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Now THAT is a reasoned, researched post. Thank you! |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 12:27 PM |
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It's not only Americans |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-07 12:31 PM |
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Because it hurts the cause? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 01:56 PM |
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True, silly me |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-07 05:22 PM |
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I'm glad YOU are not worried |
Marrah_G |
Apr-06-07 04:32 PM |
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unfortunately |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 01:58 PM |
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I believe you began the name-calling. |
WinkyDink |
Apr-07-07 01:34 AM |
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If you consider the remarks in post 62 name calling, i was being sarcastic and facetious. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 11:09 AM |
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"horrible, slimy little Mexican"? |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 11:19 AM |
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If you can't discern sarcasm without the appearance of a sarcasm smiley..... |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-09-07 12:36 PM |
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I have to disagree there. |
CC |
Apr-07-07 01:09 AM |
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"Vehicle safety isn't the problem." |
Zookeeper |
Apr-09-07 11:46 AM |
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wow! |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-06-07 07:59 AM |
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Hi Dem |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 08:06 AM |
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American Truckers are Psst and on the move! "Three Days Without an American Trucker" |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 08:01 AM |
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Hi Buttercup! |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-06-07 08:54 AM |
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Not if they park 'em and leave 'em n/t |
kgfnally |
Apr-09-07 11:09 AM |
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K&R |
Lugnut |
Apr-06-07 08:06 AM |
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Bump...up |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 08:17 AM |
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this could get very ,very ugly |
madrchsod |
Apr-06-07 08:18 AM |
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K&R! |
Blue State Native |
Apr-06-07 08:27 AM |
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Can we get links |
POAS |
Apr-06-07 08:29 AM |
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I found this link |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-06-07 08:56 AM |
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Thanks |
POAS |
Apr-06-07 09:37 AM |
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Frosty Wooldridge doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 10:57 AM |
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Good to know you don't care about losing union jobs. I guess you're one of the open borders liberals |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:19 AM |
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Good to know you know me so well! |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:39 AM |
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Yeah, well, maybe if the Teamsters & truckers could distinguish between Solidarity |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:48 AM |
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Are you suggesting I stated "Unionized Trucking was doomed 20 years ago"? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 12:14 PM |
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ah-ham, I recollection serves me, wasn't it Jimmy Carter who deregulated........ |
nolabels |
Apr-06-07 01:51 PM |
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Major deregulation of the trucking industry came about in 1980 |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 02:08 PM |
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By JIMMY CARTER |
nolabels |
Apr-06-07 02:29 PM |
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No argument. You are certainly correct. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 04:11 PM |
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i considered becoming a trucker |
sakkatta |
Apr-06-07 08:33 AM |
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welcome to DU, sakkatta! |
ncrainbowgrrl |
Apr-07-07 10:14 PM |
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SO and I used to drive team |
here_is_to_hope |
Apr-06-07 08:38 AM |
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"Looks like we got ourselves a convoy!" |
wicket |
Apr-06-07 08:40 AM |
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Big Ben, this here's the Rubber Duck... |
rucky |
Apr-06-07 09:31 AM |
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Damn I need that movie on DVD! |
wicket |
Apr-06-07 06:08 PM |
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lol loved that movie and song when I was a kid |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 12:14 PM |
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Truckin' down on Bourbon Street .... |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-07 08:41 AM |
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What is the Bush-Kennedy Plan they are talking about? |
chihuahua_mama |
Apr-06-07 08:42 AM |
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They seem to be talking about Ted Kennedy |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-06-07 09:16 AM |
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I've been looking for the last hour |
Terre |
Apr-06-07 12:21 PM |
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I think I've found out |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-06-07 05:12 PM |
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Read the posts below... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 06:01 PM |
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I think Kennedy's support |
geardaddy |
Apr-06-07 02:47 PM |
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K & R |
rosesaylavee |
Apr-06-07 09:20 AM |
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Trucks make good television. I wish them better luck |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Apr-06-07 09:22 AM |
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The corporate media whores won't cover this. |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-06-07 10:01 AM |
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K&R |
rubberducky |
Apr-06-07 09:30 AM |
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Why are they calling this the "Bush-KENNEDY" plan? |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-06-07 09:36 AM |
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My understanding is that it was part of the original NAFTA |
brg5001 |
Apr-06-07 10:11 AM |
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My Dad drove truck his entire life. Kick for |
vickiss |
Apr-06-07 10:11 AM |
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I call Bullshit. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 10:29 AM |
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What Bush-Kennedy Truckers plan??? CAN SOMEONE PROVE IT??? |
LSK |
Apr-06-07 10:43 AM |
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No. No one can prove it. Because it isn't a "Bush Kennedy" plan. It is NAFTA |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 10:59 AM |
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and yet this undocumented BS has 48 votes |
LSK |
Apr-06-07 11:02 AM |
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There was a similar thread a week or ten days ago. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:12 AM |
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And as I pointed out bellow |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-07 11:21 AM |
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This "damned panic" is valid. |
Edweird |
Apr-08-07 10:20 AM |
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Thank the "right-to-work" status of the State of Florida for your predicament, but my opinion |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-09-07 12:57 PM |
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Two NAFTA supporters on the thread already |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:22 AM |
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READ INTO THINGS MUCH????????????? |
LSK |
Apr-06-07 11:59 AM |
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Well, Kennedy does support the Bracero plan. Do publishers of the boadside sound like morans? yes |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 12:13 PM |
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ok, so you can discuss things without resorting to personal attacks |
LSK |
Apr-06-07 12:23 PM |
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undocumented BS ? Shelby-Murray provisions – known as Part 350 of the Transportation Approp. Legis. |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 03:13 PM |
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Another "Blame it on Clinton"... |
IthinkThereforeIAM |
Apr-06-07 12:21 PM |
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Did Bill Clinton sign it into law or not? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 12:46 PM |
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NAFTA was still a REPUBLICAN introduced bill. Passed by a republican |
B Calm |
Apr-10-07 05:21 AM |
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Finally someone remembers who brought us NAFTA |
focusfan |
Apr-08-07 10:04 AM |
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The republicans gave us NAFTA and now with their propaganda |
B Calm |
Apr-10-07 06:07 AM |
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Wrong - Clinton and Gore were major pushers of NAFTA |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 12:37 PM |
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Wish I would have read your post |
Terre |
Apr-06-07 12:25 PM |
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Clinton held up the cross-border trucking provisions of NAFTA. |
CANDO |
Apr-07-07 11:44 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-06-07 11:21 AM |
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Where the hell do you get off inferring i am a supporter of NAFTA? |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-06-07 11:45 AM |
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I've got CW McCall on my ipod..just of old time's sake... : -) |
paparush |
Apr-06-07 10:38 AM |
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I've got to laugh |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-06-07 10:43 AM |
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This will be an interesting thing to watch as the people in Southern Cal |
Javaman |
Apr-06-07 11:20 AM |
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BOYCOTT against "Anarchy"? Give me a frickin' break. It's called a "strike" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-06-07 11:34 AM |
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They will keep it up past three days, or repeat it again in a month |
Raksha |
Apr-07-07 08:45 PM |
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I think I'd be tempted to park trucks broadside across every |
windbreeze |
Apr-06-07 11:39 AM |
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I like your idea best |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-10-07 02:43 PM |
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So...Let Me Get This Straight |
maggiegault |
Apr-06-07 11:40 AM |
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K&R |
OhioChick |
Apr-06-07 12:15 PM |
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AWESOME! Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday...WORK/TRAVEL days for truckers. This could be painful |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-06-07 12:25 PM |
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I drive a big-rig during the summers... |
Buddyblazon |
Apr-06-07 12:30 PM |
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Just sent it to the only trucker I know... |
lies and propaganda |
Apr-06-07 01:17 PM |
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This tactic is damned effective! |
liam_laddie |
Apr-06-07 01:57 PM |
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Who's going to feel the repercussions of the boycott? bush, or the truckers? |
Straight Shooter |
Apr-06-07 02:02 PM |
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More info |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:11 PM |
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Peters' pilot project |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:16 PM |
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CNN.... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:23 PM |
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Bump |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:31 PM |
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Thanks Buttercup! |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-06-07 02:48 PM |
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Happy Easter Dem |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:55 PM |
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The only thing I have to say is... |
butterfly77 |
Apr-06-07 02:31 PM |
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Me too |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:42 PM |
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I second your motion... |
roamer65 |
Apr-06-07 02:58 PM |
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I'm in... |
jimshoes |
Apr-06-07 02:43 PM |
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Aye |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 02:56 PM |
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This is all about "integration" - the North American Union. |
gulfcoastliberal |
Apr-06-07 03:05 PM |
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Everyone in the U.S. that works for a living should join in |
focusfan |
Apr-06-07 03:13 PM |
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ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!! |
Rainscents |
Apr-06-07 03:26 PM |
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The Great American Truck Out |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 03:35 PM |
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Bush-Kennedy |
senseandsensibility |
Apr-06-07 05:34 PM |
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Read the posts above |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 06:03 PM |
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I have read most of them |
senseandsensibility |
Apr-06-07 06:39 PM |
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I hope this doesn't give Dimson a reason to declare Martial Law |
PADemD |
Apr-06-07 04:44 PM |
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Here's The Thing About Martial Law... |
maggiegault |
Apr-06-07 06:16 PM |
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I'll pass this along; a fantastic idea to counter one of the most irresponsible |
AzDar |
Apr-06-07 05:18 PM |
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Bump... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-06-07 08:13 PM |
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Oh man! Let this be for real! |
FredStembottom |
Apr-06-07 11:41 PM |
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If the rest of us had any sense there'd be general strikes in solidarity. |
Lars39 |
Apr-07-07 12:27 AM |
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I believe U.S. truck drivers have to be drug tested occasionally. |
JDPriestly |
Apr-07-07 01:26 AM |
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If you hold a CDL you are subject to mandatory pre-employment, post accident and random |
A HERETIC I AM |
Apr-07-07 11:06 AM |
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(Edited...Double post.) |
WinkyDink |
Apr-07-07 01:32 AM |
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I don't care if Mexican drivers are Unionized, inspected, safe, or vaccinated; |
WinkyDink |
Apr-07-07 01:48 AM |
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You are familiar with the side accords of NAFTA right? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-07-07 12:11 PM |
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yet they aren't enforced, so... |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-09-07 11:57 AM |
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morning kick |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-07-07 06:04 AM |
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Mornin` Dem |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-07-07 08:08 AM |
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They've been talking about that for years |
camero |
Apr-07-07 06:21 AM |
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Is this Bush/Kennedy bill being sponsered by Ted Kennedy? |
midnight |
Apr-07-07 06:23 AM |
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PLEASE--just don't forget the "Bear" eom |
ncteechur |
Apr-07-07 08:00 AM |
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Bump...up |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-07-07 12:07 PM |
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Afternoon kick |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-07-07 02:08 PM |
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does this imply that American truckers are gonna start driving safely and following traffic laws? |
ComerPerro |
Apr-07-07 12:13 PM |
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I see Kennedy's name (I'm assuming Ted) is associated with this pilot. |
Tatiana |
Apr-07-07 12:19 PM |
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I asked this above and it wasn't answered. |
senseandsensibility |
Apr-07-07 03:57 PM |
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This has to do with this... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-07-07 04:17 PM |
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I don't think Kennedy's agenda regarding immigration is "secret." |
Tatiana |
Apr-07-07 09:35 PM |
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Thank you |
senseandsensibility |
Apr-09-07 10:59 AM |
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Kickin' cause I love protests: |
Clark2008 |
Apr-07-07 04:33 PM |
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I love it... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-07-07 08:28 PM |
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Good Morning! |
DemReadingDU |
Apr-08-07 05:42 AM |
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Happy Easter Dem |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-08-07 07:38 AM |
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Personally I'd like to see a lot more of the freight in this country |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-09-07 11:07 AM |
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Yes! Rail and barge. n/t |
Zookeeper |
Apr-09-07 11:50 AM |
#181 |
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kick |
NormanYorkstein |
Apr-10-07 03:44 AM |
#188 |
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Good Morning... |
Buttercup McToots |
Apr-10-07 04:56 AM |
#189 |
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K & R |
conscious evolution |
Apr-10-07 06:33 AM |
#192 |
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Bush is trying to protect us . . . right! Why not just send planes into |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-10-07 06:41 AM |
#193 |