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Mon Jun-22-09 04:09 PM
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| 56. Working within the Primary System.... |
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...is NOT as easy as I once believed. Even within the Liberal Bastion of Minneapolis, the MONEY behind the DLC was at work rigging the Primaries AGAINST Progressive candidates, and injecting their OWN Corporate Approved candidates. I witnessed the work of Rahm and the DLC up close in Election 2006. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... |
| -Tired of hearing we "don't have the votes." Yes, we do have the votes to pass the Democratic agenda. |
madfloridian |
Jun-21-09 10:42 PM |
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We have a corrupt congress. That is the only explanation. |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-21-09 10:45 PM |
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We need to take away their health care. |
roody |
Jun-21-09 10:50 PM |
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how do you propose to do that? |
onenote |
Jun-22-09 12:27 PM |
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We have a corrupt congress. That is the only explanation. |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-21-09 10:46 PM |
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I think we have no Democratic leaders, |
Autumn |
Jun-21-09 11:03 PM |
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They are making sure they get along with the corporate world and lobbyists. |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-21-09 11:06 PM |
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Hopefully their "happy talk" will get |
Autumn |
Jun-21-09 11:09 PM |
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You may be correct on this one, If we can manage free elections again, nt |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-21-09 11:11 PM |
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That Sir, is a big IF |
Autumn |
Jun-21-09 11:16 PM |
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Free elections, free media. Necessary for a 21st century civilization. nt |
Psychic Consortium |
Jun-22-09 06:35 AM |
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Oh, We HAVE Democratic Leaders. |
bvar22 |
Jun-22-09 12:06 AM |
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That is rich |
Autumn |
Jun-22-09 12:14 AM |
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2006-08 Congressional Candidate John Russell Nails IT Right On Da $! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Jun-23-09 08:50 PM |
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kick |
PM Martin |
Jun-21-09 10:46 PM |
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I have a feeling that the Dems are in a blind panic at the thought of Franken being seated. |
billyoc |
Jun-21-09 10:47 PM |
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And none more so than Spineless Harry Reid |
Sebastian Doyle |
Jun-21-09 10:48 PM |
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Then they will have a really hard time with excuses. |
madfloridian |
Jun-21-09 11:43 PM |
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They may use excuses, but they have no valid excuses at this point |
tavalon |
Jun-22-09 07:52 PM |
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No more excuses at all. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 02:28 PM |
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Just wow. The House members are the ones to emulate, and |
babylonsister |
Jun-21-09 10:48 PM |
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Agreed. They can get things done if they decide to do so. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 11:14 AM |
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I love your post but I would like to throw this out. Yes we have |
OHdem10 |
Jun-21-09 10:49 PM |
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That's the problem. They are voting Republican though elected as Democrats. |
madfloridian |
Jun-21-09 10:58 PM |
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I think their number one concern is not to make a difference, but to stay in office |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-22-09 12:03 AM |
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I agree. Not willing to stand up for stuff. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 01:28 AM |
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Blue Dogs. You are counting them as Democrats, right? |
sharesunited |
Jun-21-09 10:50 PM |
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Might be. But some say... |
madfloridian |
Jun-21-09 10:59 PM |
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That's why Feinstein and those limp wristed sorts in the Senate |
47of74 |
Jun-21-09 10:50 PM |
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They mean they don't have the Blue Dogs and lobbyists onboard yet. |
Atman |
Jun-21-09 11:01 PM |
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That's true. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 12:26 AM |
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Again just throwing this out there. Feinstein (as I understand it) |
OHdem10 |
Jun-21-09 11:12 PM |
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With our majority, we should not have to cut Medicare and Medicaid. |
madfloridian |
Jun-21-09 11:17 PM |
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I thought the same thing when I heard about the cuts, |
Dragonfli |
Jun-22-09 01:11 PM |
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"we don't have the votes" is just a cop out.....I think they just don't WANT to get anything done. |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-21-09 11:13 PM |
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Oh, they are getting plenty done for their constituents |
tavalon |
Jun-22-09 07:55 PM |
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It's anti-birth control, it's NOT a "choice" |
KakistocracyHater |
Jun-21-09 11:13 PM |
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Until corporate Democrats are drummed out of the party, get used to it. |
PHIMG |
Jun-21-09 11:24 PM |
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Sorry, but anti-union, anti-gay, pro-corporate and pro-war IS the Democratic agenda |
jgraz |
Jun-21-09 11:51 PM |
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So where do we go |
Autumn |
Jun-22-09 12:17 AM |
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Iran? |
jgraz |
Jun-22-09 11:38 AM |
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We have the votes. We lack the political will |
Juche |
Jun-22-09 12:40 AM |
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Exactly. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 12:14 PM |
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Many democratic leaders and congress persons are corrupt and on the dole of the financial elite |
Political Heretic |
Jun-22-09 01:35 AM |
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The Democratic Party has always been the party of preserving the status quo. |
Greyhound |
Jun-22-09 01:43 AM |
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we (the rank & file) don't have the vo$$$$$$es. |
Hannah Bell |
Jun-22-09 01:54 AM |
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Very true. Dollars mean more than votes. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 02:00 PM |
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K&R'd |
snot |
Jun-22-09 07:53 AM |
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Dean speaking out this morning again on MSNBC. Video. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 11:48 AM |
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Hysterical. First it's a matter of lacking votes. Then they get them, and move on to the next excuse |
Echo In Light |
Jun-22-09 12:19 PM |
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The DLC |
Dragonfli |
Jun-22-09 12:51 PM |
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There is nothing good in the Tea Leaves. |
bvar22 |
Jun-22-09 01:26 PM |
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Could well happen if a few senators keep having all the power |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 02:07 PM |
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There is little we can do but encourage the progressive caucus |
Dragonfli |
Jun-22-09 03:44 PM |
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Working within the Primary System.... |
bvar22 |
Jun-22-09 04:09 PM |
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Oh I'm aware of how they operate that's why it's under "all we can do" |
Dragonfli |
Jun-22-09 04:47 PM |
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The DCCC played kingmaker here in FL, and it was not a good ending. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 05:49 PM |
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Same Sh*t In Florida in 2006! WassermanSchultz Is Scum too Endorsing Repubs! |
DaLittle Kitty |
Jun-24-09 07:24 PM |
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the headline garnered my rec |
Froward69 |
Jun-22-09 01:09 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Jun-22-09 01:28 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Jun-22-09 02:38 PM |
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I would change one word in Dr. Dean's statement. "we forgot why we were there in power." |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-22-09 03:21 PM |
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I would agree on that. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 03:48 PM |
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Did you hear Ed go off about this the other day? |
tnlefty |
Jun-22-09 04:00 PM |
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Anyone who has seen a handful of episodes of The West Wing... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jun-22-09 04:39 PM |
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Yes, there is most certainly. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 08:09 PM |
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Yes, I think so, too. |
tnlefty |
Jun-22-09 09:19 PM |
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Ed has really impressed me on this issue. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 09:10 PM |
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Thanks for the link! |
tnlefty |
Jun-22-09 09:22 PM |
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This is an obvious leadership problem. |
donco6 |
Jun-22-09 04:19 PM |
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When Franken gets seated, we'll have 58 Democrats on the Senate. |
4lbs |
Jun-22-09 06:05 PM |
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I counted 59 on this page...recheck my counting. |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 09:19 PM |
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True. I only counted those that are actually registered as Democrat. |
4lbs |
Jun-23-09 04:39 AM |
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TELL IT, SISTER!!! |
bertman |
Jun-22-09 09:29 PM |
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Thanks. Did you hear Dean on Countdown tonight? |
madfloridian |
Jun-22-09 09:46 PM |
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Woot! |
PassingFair |
Jun-22-09 10:34 PM |
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Thanks for the link. I just got around to watching it. Howard Dean is my hero. |
bertman |
Jun-23-09 04:17 PM |
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We gave them the "votes" on November 4th, but |
donheld |
Jun-22-09 10:08 PM |
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Sorry to burst your bubble ... |
GeorgeGist |
Jun-22-09 10:18 PM |
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We do have the votes. Yes, we do. |
madfloridian |
Jun-23-09 11:07 AM |
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and even if they don't have the votes |
Skittles |
Jun-23-09 09:33 PM |
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